Open 899 - The Pizza Kids Coalition [Game Over]

[Elements]

T3 townish.

I thought the same things from T3's first post

[Elements]

T3 townish.

I thought the same things from T3's first post

the "ok" one?

That's the one

[Elements]

Why don't we not focus on either to begin with and just play normal mafia, then figure stuff out later in the day when we get closer to the deadline

[Elements]

Bloop

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elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.

half my posts are about towning T3?

[Elements]

T3 townish.

I thought the same things from T3's first post

Why

Vibes, innit

[Elements]

I keep thinking this game is 7 players

[Elements]

elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.

half my posts are about towning T3?

i would say that since t3 is a consensus tr at this point, i don't see scum!you benefiting much for doing something that implo has done too and was sred for

do you have any concerns about t3 being so town read so early?

[Elements]

I keep thinking this game is 7 players

there's also a part of me that wants to call this post like, really hard town for being the kind of thing scum would be very unlikely to genuinely think (because they have a scumbuddy they're interacting with/are probably more self-conscious about stuff) and also extremely unlikely to come up with the idea of faking

The only read on me I like so far

[Elements]

HEAL: implosion, dragon, ssbm
HURT: deas

i am accepting questions at this current time (answer in 1 business day)

why those four votes?

[Elements]

I'm not yet comfortable with Dragon or Ydra being in the 5

[Elements]

i like the elements read so take it as a light shrug

what about the read do you like?

[Elements]

Alright game solved for realsies

HEAL: Klick, Appearance, Dragon, Elements, DeasVail

Now I just lurk until DV and Klick figure out this is the correct solve and then we just convince two others.

Any thoughts on who the reds in the other 4 are?
Or if you're wrong who you think you are most likely to be wrong about?

[Elements]

Dragon were you town in that game with Keylaga?

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Dragon were you town in that game with Keylaga?

Yep

Why?

you feel similar

[Elements]

You don't, but you are town anyway.

I you'd said I felt similar you would have needed to get your brain checked

[Elements]

Elements if we were in the voting stage (not coalition) who would you be voting for now?

right now probably ydra

Also if you can think of this, who would you have voted for so far before the hypothetical "current" vote?

I don't get what you mean here?

[Elements]

I keep thinking this game is 7 players

there's also a part of me that wants to call this post like, really hard town for being the kind of thing scum would be very unlikely to genuinely think (because they have a scumbuddy they're interacting with/are probably more self-conscious about stuff) and also extremely unlikely to come up with the idea of faking

The only read on me I like so far

@Elements: I suppose it's worth asking if what I wrote above is true and you had some amount of conscious awareness that posting 62 would get people talking about townslips?

I went into this game from a perspective of thinking it would be unlikely we'd get a coalition win so if I wasn't in the coalition that puts me in a position to see a 1/5 and a 1/2 or a 2/5 which I think benefits town to solve. I was thinking of asking not to be in the coalition at that point I think? but then realised it was a 9p setup so that whole line of thinking was invalid.
I think my confusion came from the 7p wilson that was/is in signups

[Elements]

I'm now going to look back at town games and try to remember why Elements is usually a really free townread when town

if you find out can you let me know? I need to cut back on day 1/2 mislims, it's bad for my health

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I'm satisfied that this is about what I'd expect from scum!Elements in terms of intended content and actual content

I do agree nothing I've done I couldn't have faked. That's why I liked Implo's read on me but none of the others. That one specifically talked about fakeing posts and why that one wasn't

[Elements]

There's not really much I can say against your read tbh
I could very easily be playing like this had I rolled red, I just happen to be town this time

[Elements]

There's not really much I can say against your read tbh
I could very easily be playing like this had I rolled red, I just happen to be town this time

What are your thoughts on DragonEater

Probably just town
I was concerned to begin with as he seemed to be very much taking charge of the game and there wasn't anything he was posting that gave me reason to town him. Then I thought back to the keylaga game and he feels similar there as I said earlier

[Elements]

As a more general succinct response to this reasoning, now that I've looked at Elements' gameplay in excruciating detail: I think you're assuming a lot more effort out of scum!Elements here than scum!Elements would actually have.

Someone said it!
I've been waiting so long for someone to say "that's more effort that elements would put in" or words to that effect
thank you

[Elements]

You feel vaguely towny right now hilariously

I agree with your Dragon take

You're hesitant on Ydrasse? I want to understand that more

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[Elements]

I briefly skimmed Ydrasse's ISO and don't really understand what you want me to see

Ydra feels like she's here this game
She did not in that game

[Elements]

I think Ydrasse can be low WIM as either alignment
I think the high WIM expressed here is because Ydrasse is town

I've seen low-WIM Ydrasse-town as well

What I haven't seen is this kind of engagement from scum-Ydrasse
Might be worth a nosey through her scum meta in a bit

I have seen these and I'm aware I don't know Ydra's play well so will likely defer to this at some point

[Elements]

btw, i just realised it's elements bday (or maybe my timezone is early).
just in case, happy bday, elements!

I've got another 2 hours to go but thank you!

[Elements]

Elements if we were in the voting stage (not coalition) who would you be voting for now?

right now probably ydra

Also if you can think of this, who would you have voted for so far before the hypothetical "current" vote?

I don't get what you mean here?

Like, you vote different people a lot - if there was no coalition phase, who might you have voted *before* Ydra

in no particular order likely; dragons, myself, implo, T3, you, any wagons of 2 or more
but I'm also quite low eneergy this game so I doubt I would've moved my vote that much tbh
not sure how this is helping you sort me bu go ahead

[Elements]

@Elements, any chance you can answer my questions?

Also why would you be voting Ydra?

Tomorrow evening
I'm doing birthday things for the rest of today and most of tomorrow

[Elements]

@Elements, this is not to help me sort you as much as it is to help me help Klick sort you, but:

What read do you think a generic town player this game should have on you? And what do you think about my hard townread of you, considering how I hard TR'd you in our last game (where you were quite different)?

A preference for answers longer than one word.

idk what I think a generic town player

should

have on me. I'd expect more people to be considering that I could have easily faked what I've done so far. Being towned for "not caring about being in the coalition" feels like a very wishy washy read and something easy to fake as red. Like, I feel like that's how I would play as red.
I feel like you just saying I'm town could come from you as either alignment. I've got some paranoia over you trying to pocket me? But you feel close enought to whichever game it was that I'm fine to roll with it.

[Elements]

Spoiler:

HEAL: klick

HURT: t3
HEAL: kyouko

i feel better about this coalition.

klick, dragon, elements, kyouko, ydra
the reason being that t3 has pretty much ended up being nulltown for me now and it's no really worth keeping him in the coalition anymore

I think I have 5 town
Weakest of the 5 is probably Ydrasse atp?

Would mean 2 scum in {implosion, Appearance, T3, ssbm_Kyouko}

The question now is, are there any teams in that 4 that have been playing like they're about to lose if this coalition passes

what about now?

[Elements]

Oh I forgot I wasn't healing them



I think it's clear what I meant to do

HURT: all
HEAL: Elements, Ydra, Dragon, Appearance

I don't really see kyo as town here
I'd prefer Klick to Appearance and Kyo
and I think I prefer DV to appearance

[Elements]

Elements did you read my and Kyo's reasons for doubting Klick/DV?

not the dv one
klick just feels very town to me

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Elements, can you explain why Kyo isn't town here?

until today she hasn't felt invest in this game at all
as a lesser point, she hasn't done any mechanical analysis of the setup either

I be looking too much into it, but I read though this pt from red!kyo and can see this sort of thing going on behind the veil for a red!kyo this game