Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[gob]

Dannflor is wolf.

[gob]

light_ganaski, Naerys and Cook are the wolves.

Wrap it up folks

[gob]

VOTE: ranger

[gob]

I don't reallly think Light has been towny.

[gob]

I don't reallly think Light has been towny.

Do you think she's been scummy?

yes thats what i meant basically

[gob]

davesaz thoughts on light galanski?

[gob]

davesaz thoughts on light galanski?

She seems to be trying to solve.

so a townread? or is that within her scum range?

[gob]

or is that within her scum range?

I haven't seen her recently enough to know. In fact not sure if I've seen her before.

So a null read, yes?

[gob]

gob can you explain your light read

not yet

[gob]

dann-naerys in the no-no zone, who wants to join as the third

no no zone? wdym

[gob]

I think town!gob would be way more wary of me after our last game together. Instead he's just ignoring me. He knows I'm town

third is such a conceited take lol

[gob]

python it really looks like you're walking back what you said to me

Maybe we're not explaining it right:

Normal game:
-100 -- Lockmaf
-50 -- Maf
0 -- Null
50 -- Town
100 -- Locktown

This game:
-25 -- Lockmaf
-10 -- Maf
0 -- Null
10 -- Town
25 -- Locktown

yeesh this is a bad post

VOTE: usesPython

[gob]

or is that within her scum range?

I haven't seen her recently enough to know. In fact not sure if I've seen her before.

So a null read, yes?

more like town lean, though very preliminary

cool thanks for clarifying

for the record i was trying to see if light galanski is partners with davesaz. that was my whole play and now its done.
light im null on same with davesaz, which is good cause i felt lightz vote on dave could be early wolf distancing

[gob]

i think black and gob are both town

What a coincidence!

I think they’re both your scumbuddies.

Although there’s a chance gob's town and it’s Cook instead.

what makes you say this?

[gob]

black what do you even see with regards to gob

I think town!gob would be way more wary of me after our last game together. Instead he's just ignoring me. He knows I'm town

im trying to figure out where gob is going

He's not going anywhere. He's trying to seem busy. He made an early game solve with LG in it and now he's scumreading her without reason because he feels locked into that solve

More votes on gob please

To elaborate further, I almost made gob retire in Open 892 by tricking him into thinking I'm town. He was very distraught about it and flamed me and just generally reacted very poorly to losing the game. I think town!gob would be

way

more interested in solving me this game after that. Instead it just feels like he's tip-toeing around my slot

It's not the strongest read in the world but as far as gut reads go I feel pretty good about it

Like i said before this is a really conceited way of reading anyone. Its totally wrong

[gob]

I’m wondering what Tbone thinks of Python and vice versa

[gob]

black what do you even see with regards to gob

I think town!gob would be way more wary of me after our last game together. Instead he's just ignoring me. He knows I'm town

im trying to figure out where gob is going

He's not going anywhere. He's trying to seem busy. He made an early game solve with LG in it and now he's scumreading her without reason because he feels locked into that solve

More votes on gob please

To elaborate further, I almost made gob retire in Open 892 by tricking him into thinking I'm town. He was very distraught about it and flamed me and just generally reacted very poorly to losing the game. I think town!gob would be

way

more interested in solving me this game after that. Instead it just feels like he's tip-toeing around my slot

It's not the strongest read in the world but as far as gut reads go I feel pretty good about it

Like i said before this is a really conceited way of reading anyone. Its totally wrong

What is your read on me?

slight TR so far

[gob]

Can you explain why

I think your read on me, while conceited and invalid, is towny because it does make sense logically why a town!you would think what you do about me.
We’ll see though

[gob]

I think more people should vote usesPython.

Ranger especially

[gob]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

[gob]

Tbh I think ranger/light/python is 3 town right now

Elaborate

[gob]

im thinking we lim python

[gob]

im sticking on python

[gob]

convenient lurk moment lol

It’s worth noting Black did this as scum.

Anyway Cook why arent you voting pHython?


I havsnt seen anythihg to make me want to vote anywhere else

[gob]

my brain is fried

who wants to discuss phyton with me?

[gob]

why python

I feel like Dannflors analysis said it wel enough. For me i have sorta ruled out a lot of others, but python consistently does moves that i feel are anti-town.

i dont feel as strongly on anyone, except maybe T-bone as their is a contrast in how T-bone was talking about the V/LA stuff and how T-bone talked about everything else. Feels like scum

[gob]

why python

I feel like Dannflors analysis said it wel enough. For me i have sorta ruled out a lot of others, but python consistently does moves that i feel are anti-town.

i dont feel as strongly on anyone, except maybe T-bone as their is a contrast in how T-bone was talking about the V/LA stuff and how T-bone talked about everything else. Feels like scum

I have a few minutes, but are you really taking T-Bone going a bit into list mod mode and commenting on the v/la stuff.......as a scum tell?

Pretty much yea. Its not cause theyre a list mod though, if a random person had that much of a gap talking between game-related and non-game related. If tthis is considered bad practice i wont do it

[gob]

So why arent we voting python?

[gob]

So why arent we voting python?

Our mind control is too strong, sorry

Its the exact opposite

[gob]

I feel like Dannflors analysis said it wel enough. For me i have sorta ruled out a lot of others, but python consistently does moves that i feel are anti-town.

You seem to have already had a position on Python, but you're deferring to Dannflor's post instead of stating your own reasons all in one place.
That

can

come from town, but I'd still like to hear your own summary with some more specifics, if you're willing.

Im not willing really. I’ve basically already said ll my reasons. I guess people seem to think im super confident in it, im not really its just the only read i have im generally confident in.

[gob]

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

[gob]

Python’s response wasnt as bad as everything before but i dont think it was towny really. Python keeps doing this jokey not caring about the game too much attitude. It feels like a mafia faking being towny.

But whatever if nobody is going Python today then ill look elsewhere. Probably tbone

[gob]

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

[gob]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.

I do TR naerys im just wondering why they are voting the person with 0 as opposed to 3, if me and naerys are both scummy.

[gob]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.

I think gob has a point though. LG went from the top wagon to a vanity wagon this late into D1 even though they are her bottom two scumreads. I haven't had the chance to look at the case yet but I saw the readslist

LOL

this made me die laughing for some reason

[gob]

Alright how about the peoppe voting me talk to me.

I am ready tk answer any questions. I stand by all my plays and reads. I feel like there are also at least 2 wolves on my wagon given how quick things ran up.

I dont want to die day 1 so, get off and stuff everyone

[gob]

Black i feel is clearly more townie than not. When she is scum she’s usually more locked into a certain path. In this one she really feels like a townie who needs to make her own content. Hence why she had her read on me. I thought it was a bad read, as in it was inaccurate, but overall the play of prodding me with an SR is good.

I do agree with Ausuka, i think the day is a bit underdeveloped.

I could go davesaz i guess, given that he’s been relatively quiet for day 1. I dont really SR him, but i think hes still in his scumrange. My preference is still python ofc.

Ausuka’s recent posts ive agreed wirh for the most part.


Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

I feel like drew is always on me in every game so i also am willing tk clear him.

[gob]

Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

why not light

could be i was just listing the people i knew off the top of my head

for what it’s worth but though, i dont really see as many partners for light compared to Dave and drew. Dave could really go with anyone considering how detached he’s been imo.

That is one thing i guess going for python, the fact python has taken strong stances, however i feel like they are scum and doing scum things pretty clearly. I am gonna stick with my read

[gob]

Alright how about the peoppe voting me talk to me.

I am ready tk answer any questions. I stand by all my plays and reads. I feel like there are also at least 2 wolves on my wagon given how quick things ran up.

I dont want to die day 1 so, get off and stuff everyone

Hi yes I have a question pls

Did you townread Naerys only bcos of sharing her feelings on the gamestate, or something else?

Yea i agreed with her on something. She is more null-lean town if i had to say. Seen some towny stuff but definitely not out of her scum range.

[gob]

Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

why not light

could be i was just listing the people i knew off the top of my head

for what it’s worth but though, i dont really see as many partners for light compared to Dave and drew. Dave could really go with anyone considering how detached he’s been imo.

That is one thing i guess going for python, the fact python has taken strong stances, however i feel like they are scum and doing scum things pretty clearly. I am gonna stick with my read

Second question for u actually out of curiosity. Since you're in it, what do you think of ranger's solve in 395?

I think its totally wrong basically. I can sorta understand the distancing between me and black from a certain point of view. Dont really see jt with black and dann or me and dann.

[gob]

gob's a pretty meh wagon but dying is cringe so VOTE: gob

I find it weird you say this instead of talking about dave’s flip onto you. It just feels like youre avoiding talking about peoples SRs on you.

Anyway, this comment basically means
light_ganski, Doctor Drew, Black, Ranger

You feel this is a towny wagon?

[gob]

nah its not tbone here. Lets do python which actually solves half the game

[gob]

hm

[gob]

I think a Python lim or Ausuka slot lim cuts the game into the smallest bites. Then T-bone cuts the game like 25%.

Upon re-reading i feel like davesaz, Naerys, Drew, Black and Dannflor are the towniest.

Davesaz in particular, depending on how things flip i could be wrong ofc, but i sorta went through his option-select and feel like he made towny moves. I wouldn't say he's my strongest read TR, but just kinda interesting.

[gob]

VOTE: usesPython

idk im lost but out of the viable wagons i guess i'd prefer to go back to this most

Who'd you lim if you had flash wagon part 2?

Seems like he wants to lim you

[gob]

I think a Python lim or Ausuka slot lim cuts the game into the smallest bites. Then T-bone cuts the game like 25%.

what did you mean by this

Basically im (loosely because i just do it once and remember the result i dont remember the exact process... cause im lazy) going through the game and comparing possible teams. Python lim, or Ausukla slot lim basically 50/50 solves the game. Since 50% of the possible teams are eliminated.

Probably not worth mentioning in retrospect. but yea, i feel like python/asuka are the highest 2 hit wolf.

[gob]

It honestly boggles my mind how im even being wagoned lol, or anyones biggest scumread

If those people are scum psotgame i guess that makes sense

[gob]

That holds regardless of gob's alignment.

You immediately attack my vote on Gob when I voted them, Dann then calls me scum(and makes an associative so loosely goosey with light, who is also on the Gob wagon).

Even Ranger is questioning Light, and specifically her read on gob(even though she is still on the wagon.....I think).

So ya, lowkey and not so lowkey, you, Dann, and Ranger are defending gob.

So, why?

Probably because I am a polarizing player. They all understand me a bit (i think) and are (rightfully, in my opinion, but obviously yours differs since i think you know me too) calling me town.

People like light havent played with me before, to my knowledge.

Anyway, i think we need to decide on who the limmer is today. I feel like town has decent control of this game so far, so we shouldn't lose that with a CFD wagon. We don't need that at this point.

pedit:
Ranger, anything i can do to elevate your read of me to a townread Plus voting python w/ me?

I think your read on Dannflor is off. Dannflor basically left usual scum range with an early case on someone (here it was Python). This is pretty unusual for Dannflor's scumgame so early. I guess cause its blitz it's forcing a new strat but whatever, cant account for everything). Furthermore, the fact Dannflor jumped off the Python wagon and is only now rejoining feels like towny re-thinking energy to me.

ppedit: A post all about me.

[gob]

Lets go lions

[gob]

Jackson you replaced into an open wolf basically.

[gob]

blue eyes pink gobln

[gob]

Also, gob does not have a style as town that you will say 'oh he is clearly town here'

So for three people to make sure he isn't the lim means that:

A. He is scum
B. He is being used by scum

LOL

[gob]

Black is probably the most optimal elim from my reads.

Maybe foor you who JUST replaced in but from my standpoint, and i think honestly objectively sorta, black is not the optimal elim today from almost every angle

[gob]

Maybe foor you who JUST replaced in but from my standpoint, and i think honestly objectively sorta, black is not the optimal elim today from almost every angle

Respectfully, I don't care. I said optimal from my reads

jeez why so hostile?

[gob]

usesPython (4):
gob, Naerys, Cook, Dannflor
gob (3):
light_ganski, Black, Ranger
T-Bone (2):
davesaz, usesPython

Saving this for later.

Honestly looking at this sorta gives me pause on Python as scum. I think its likely L_G or Ranger is scum. black idk what she is doing, honestly might be doing a play.

[gob]

VOTE: drew

my ideal flash wagon probably rnow

I’ll reevaluate more later

Drew could go either way. Python is more of a sure thing

[gob]

Why not look elsewhere JacksonVirgo?

[gob]

as in not just black

[gob]

im a real emotional and sensitive boy no cappers

[gob]

Why not look elsewhere JacksonVirgo?

I am, I’m just choosing to push Black as I’m like fairly convinced I’m a god and that I’m right.

Im pretty decent at reading Black and i disagree. I have no problem going back over Black tomorrow i guess. But today she clearly aint the lim

[gob]

Why not look elsewhere JacksonVirgo?

I am, I’m just choosing to push Black as I’m like fairly convinced I’m a god and that I’m right.

Im pretty decent at reading Black and i disagree. I have no problem going back over Black tomorrow i guess. But today she clearly aint the lim

Good for you

quite dismissive

[gob]

You’ve also done nothing but pull apart or try and diminish what I’m doing with nothing constructive I can work with so I am just getting tired of it frankly

Well i think its totally wrong. I understand your logic though but since youre rightly reading me town, you should also trust my reads too here.
You dont have to ofc but if youre town its the correct play imo

[gob]

Just over 6, yeah I’ll make it before black flips red

Just seems to me like youre tunneling. I get there isnt much time left but i dont think black is leaving today so idk why you wont look elsewhere or defer to your TR’s reads

[gob]

Im willing to defer to Dannflor here actually. I think he knows his stuff about this game.
But my pref still python

[gob]

Gob what’s ur read on me?

I was SRing ausuka slightly but you seem good

[gob]

So, Town?

for now yea.

[gob]

UNVOTE:

i don't think i'm as convinced on black as i thought i was

What even convinced you in the first place? And why do you townread python?

you know it was so long ago that i don't remember

i think it was mostly because i had you as null but i've liked your recent posting

i don't think python's as stuffy as people are making them out to be i think they actually are pretty open with their thoughts and their jovial nature makes me feel they are more relaxed, not stressed making me think they could be town

I do agree with your reading of Python. They are goving their thoughts and jovial. However they have taken a lot of anti-town stances, and their responses to being called out are plain weird. If it barks like a wolf its probably a wolf

[gob]

We’re not even really going at different targets StD. We’re gunning for the same scum team i think. Even though we could both be wrong about the players who chose i think the overall town vs scum fight we are on the town side.

Basically im saying lim python. I am at work and cannot elab on python in detail with receipts. Just read my old posts

[gob]

man im tired

[gob]

I am mafia and bussed python

[gob]

I would love a case on light

I also would love a lot more from ranger

Thats a lot to ask of us.

[gob]

ye

[gob]

I piss and shit all over the place.

classic monkey

[gob]

I think Ranger clearly showed herself to be scum. We should voter her

[gob]

I think Ranger clearly showed herself to be scum. We should voter her

Why would scum choose to doom two of their slots instead of one?

It's the most logical play. The mafia team wants to try and replace the mason team.

[gob]

Lets talk about something more important.

JacksonVirgo what do you think about davesaz and Drew and the possibility they could be a team together??

[gob]

Lets talk about something more important.

JacksonVirgo what do you think about davesaz and Drew and the possibility they could be a team together??

I don't have thoughts about a dave/drew team. I think dave is town, and drew exists also

I'm trying to clear you and stuff so i would need you to talk about these if possible.

[gob]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Let's see where this leads. Drew never voted for python yesterday... quite strange. Unlike Ranger who you can make the argument did an anti-wolf play as Jackson just did. Then JV themself, who also did not vote for Python. However there was a replacement and you can make the case that JV was working on his own solve with Black and stuff.

Then you have T-Bone, who I think looks scummy on the surface, but in actuality is pretty towny and has been solving. It's weird T-bone didn't vote Python but the content is solid enough.

[gob]

Just looked back and actually, no dave is like INCREDIBLY townie

Agreed.

Anyway as for T-bone. I ISO'd T-bone and especially in the beginning they took hard stances that I wouldn't expect from a scum. I'm not clearing T-bone persay. But considering T-bone never voted for Python the entire Day 1, they were worth looking at and making a judgement on.

[gob]

I'm playing Smokeymon Green (^;<

[gob]

I mean at the point Python was at, I'd be betting there's scum ON the wagon more so than off

Hmm, you may be right. I wasn't online for all of EoD so idrk how the momentum felt.

[gob]

That's to say I think one is off and one is on

Well if we're looking off, i think we can shrink that to people who never voted python. Taking yourself out, its T-Bone/Dr.Drew/Ranger. Ranger is (objectively imo) a 50/50. Could be TWTBAWing.

T-bone as i explained before feeling pretty towny.

So its Drew/Ranger imo, and I think a lot of people r feeling Ranger is towny.

Do you agree with this logic? If so, why not?

[gob]

In that pool, excluding your reasonings, I think Drew is the worse looking one in contrast to my town-reads of the other two. Is this purely people that

never

voted Python? Because that's an overly restricted pool I don't think means what you think it means, I'd rather see the progression people had in regards to their votes on python to really tell you what's what

Nothing wrong with a restricted pool lol. Its 4 people anyway thats like 25% or something of the alive ppl. Not a small pool by any means.

It also definitely means what i am saying it means. There is context obviously, but we also have to go with what is most obviously likely based on peoples

actions

aka votes. imo

[gob]

In that pool, excluding your reasonings, I think Drew is the worse looking one in contrast to my town-reads of the other two. Is this purely people that

never

voted Python? Because that's an overly restricted pool I don't think means what you think it means, I'd rather see the progression people had in regards to their votes on python to really tell you what's what

Nothing wrong with a restricted pool lol. Its 4 people anyway thats like 25% or something of the alive ppl. Not a small pool by any means.

It also definitely means what i am saying it means. There is context obviously, but we also have to go with what is most obviously likely based on peoples

actions

aka votes. imo

I said overly restricted, based on logic that I don't think is inherently meaningful so it's just a pool for the sake of a pool.

So who do you want to lim?

[gob]

Probably the person I'm voting, lol

That player is no longer in the game.

[gob]

Probably the person I'm voting, lol

That player is no longer in the game.

They replaced out, the slot still exists

You're quite fun to play with Jackson. Post a lot and makes the game feel active.

[gob]

whats goin on peopl

[gob]

also please i know it's hard on the internet i do it too but python is they/them

you talkinh to me?

[gob]

I'm mobile so sorry for the successive posting. I'd put my reads as

The Dann tier (Light, Dave, Drew)
The Bone tier (JV, Black, Gob/Naerys)
The should be scum tier but probably isn't (STD, maybe also Naerys)
Everyone else (Ranger, HEM)

wtf these tiers mean

[gob]

I'd never let myself get limmed day 1 as scum but otherwise I don't have an issue with the analysis.

What is the point of saying this

I love talking up my scum game. But also I think it's a useful tool for me to get through to the meta based players.

It feels like you're using it as a way to argue that you're town but you didn't get faded D1 so I don't understand your point

seems fine to me at a glance, Black. Just my opinion thoever

[gob]

I never argue that I'm town. Come at me with your scumread, I already asked you once!

huh? what u mean here

[gob]

I’m thinking its monkey here tbh

[gob]

VOTE: monkey

The way monkeys slot jumped pn python doesnt sit right with me. Reads like scum bussing realizing there is no saving python.

[gob]

I'd never let myself get limmed day 1 as scum but otherwise I don't have an issue with the analysis.

What is the point of saying this

I love talking up my scum game. But also I think it's a useful tool for me to get through to the meta based players.

It feels like you're using it as a way to argue that you're town but you didn't get faded D1 so I don't understand your point

seems fine to me at a glance, Black. Just my opinion thoever

Why do you townread T-Bone?

I like how they progressed the game early day 1 a lot. Their reaction to python also doesnt scream w/w

[gob]

VOTE: monkey

The way monkeys slot jumped pn python doesnt sit right with me. Reads like scum bussing realizing there is no saving python.

I can't get on board with this. Monkey feels like he is genuinely trying to solve the game

I don't think you ever gave your thoughts on Jackson

I did since Jv is in my poool

[gob]

VOTE: monkey

The way monkeys slot jumped pn python doesnt sit right with me. Reads like scum bussing realizing there is no saving python.

I can't get on board with this. Monkey feels like he is genuinely trying to solve the game

I don't think you ever gave your thoughts on Jackson

I did since Jv is in my poool

Where did you post your pool? All I'm seeing is 1204 where you gave JV a pass because he was pushing me

What is your read on JV

I’ll get to JV later. What i said about Jv so far is all i think about him. I think he is town though. Doesn’t read like scum tone wise.

[gob]

WAZZUP

[gob]

Honestly I love Drew's new avatar. Pretty perfect.

Because of that we should lim someone else today that didn't vote for Python.

VOTE: Ranger

This is probably who i find most scummy in that pool of 4 besides Drew.

[gob]

I'm sorry what

Secret conversation?

Yes. We talked to each other and said one thing, yet meant another.

Again. I have receipts. You’ll be surprised how obvious they were in hindsight, you just weren’t looking.

Let's see em. I wasn't paying attention i will admit.

[gob]

maybe Python just sucks ass as a player and was not thinking rationally idk

huh? whatever logic you're running through right now is not correct

[gob]

hit em with the dumb two three

[gob]

VOTE: Enchant
Hello!
Your welcome gift is a vote.

Light Ganaksi seemed fine to me. Enchant is fairly obvious as scum, in ny personal opinion, so i think its fine to let Echant live today.

Ranger you seem kinda unconcerned about the wagon against you. Just trying to continue to hunt and pressure. It reminds me a lot of how Python responded to pushes.

[gob]

zero hour crisis in dimes

[gob]

Seems like were decided on a rnger lim today

[gob]

I heard this is game for speedrunners.

Its not

[gob]

Seems totally wrong and off. I guess you are mafia

[gob]

Seems totally wrong and off. I guess you are mafia

Totally untrue, if i was mafia i would knew everything.

This game is super serious. We dont have time for your Jokes Enchanting

[gob]

Why do you think drew is town?

[gob]

…….

[gob]

Who wants to form a towncore with me?

I am ready to push and lim the wolf

[gob]

Black?

[gob]

Who wants to form a towncore with me?

I am ready to push and lim the wolf

Black?

Why Ranger over Drew?

Idc either way to a certain extent. Are you coring with me?

[gob]

Hi are you mason

What kind of question is this

a good question

[gob]

Ranger you seem kinda unconcerned about the wagon against you. Just trying to continue to hunt and pressure. It reminds me a lot of how Python responded to pushes.

As long as players are sheeping Dannflor, I see no reason to be alarmed by votes on me.

Given Dannflor explicitly believed I was town, sheeping him means the votes on me never get an elimination.

If you’re interested in an elimination disobeying Dannflor, I’m happy to engage with you; I’m working under the assumption the majority of players here today are of a different perspective.

Seems kinda like weird/fake logic. If youre town then you need to give up your weird ideas of Dannflor and following him.

[gob]

t bone and enchant need to give 50% more effort

[gob]

t bone and enchant need to give 50% more effort

0+50%=0%

Listen Enchant. I like you but i want to win. My pride is important to me. If you are town, you need to be a team player. If youre mafia, then do whatever you want.

You can join my town core actually. Would you like to?

[gob]

Ranger is a boring ass flip, and we already know that Python didn't capitalize on it, nor would it be likely that scum try to set themselves up for chain elimination.

The large wall of text gives us a good framing of how Ranger behaved yesterday and the thought process behind that. It makes it believable. Unless scum!Ranger kept extensive notes on her town!character and had the master plan that eventually they would try and claim mason on Python, but that seems absurd. Scum wants to be as flexible as possible, especially when one of them is about to be eliminated. Python wasn't trying to die - they were counting votes on Black and STD's E-1 on them put a stop on that.

Shame on this wagon.

Hmm, I actually do agree with this. Ranger is kind of a boring lim. The way the wagon is currently moving, it's likely (like 60% independent of alignment statistics) that she is town. HOWEVER, even if she is scum here, given that the wagon moved so fast with no resistance, the scum is clearly bussing. Therefore it's not really beneficial for us, the town, to go along with the mafia strat and bus. Which I am not saying the mafia ARE bussing here, mind you, but theoretically if they were this would cover that base.

If we lim Ranger here, then we're in kind of a weird position because of how the pools went day 1. If the mafia was on Day 1 Python lim, which I suspect there probably was one, then we're gonna have a tough time catching the final wolf if mafia team busses here today.

Ranger doesn't really break the game down into smaller pieces. I think we don't let her make it to endgame, but don't lim her today too.

[gob]

UNVOTE: Ranger

[gob]

Idk Black. Your first move in this game was SRing me because you thought I was doing something or whatever (i forgot tbh).

Now you're sorta doing the same thing with JacksronVirgo. You made up a story about mafia trying to lim you in V/LA or something, its a little silly tbh. All the other stuff could be legit, but I feel like there are better people than JV in that pool.

[gob]

man i took an edible, it was way too much.

[gob]

Idk Black. Your first move in this game was SRing me because you thought I was doing something or whatever (i forgot tbh).

Now you're sorta doing the same thing with JacksronVirgo. You made up a story about mafia trying to lim you in V/LA or something, its a little silly tbh. All the other stuff could be legit, but I feel like there are better people than JV in that pool.

Who would you rather fade?

Honestly im just waiting until like 24 hours eod to start the real wagonn. So it doesnt lose steam. So you will see soon. When you do you should follow me. In my opinion

[gob]

I know who another mafia is.

I really only have a hunch but its a strong tell plus theyre in my pool of four who never voted Python.

[gob]

well idk, like 80% sure

[gob]

I know who another mafia is.

I really only have a hunch but its a strong tell plus theyre in my pool of four who never voted Python.

well idk, like 80% sure

Is there a reason you are being so coy about it?

no not really

[gob]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

I might not be around for EoD so im gonna jsut drop this here. manyli agree with waht monkey has sai dabout J_V. Furthermore, i do not like the not-caring type attitude they are taking,,

[gob]

Christ you guys are easily wolfed. I am high but i am put together enought to spell things correctly. I went back and messed things up on purpose.

[gob]

Furthermore, i do not like the not-caring type attitude they are taking,,

I care, I care a lot

I feel like there would be more of a defense and a sense of urgency.

The spelling, not the vote

Like here you even back off critiquing my scumread on you. Just sorta odd to me, but i could be wrong. Again I am high

[gob]

Hehe, im remembering the difference in energy between you being scumread and your Black read being critiqued

[gob]

Eh, it depends on the person and their meta I guess.

Whatever. Nobody hammer please.

That means you Enchant, Drew, NAerys, monkey, Black. None of you hammer early. We need to use all the time in Blitzy

[gob]

light_ganski (1): JacksonVirgo

This should be Enchant no?

Fixed.

's over

[gob]

wattup

[gob]

okay the energy is coming to me. I will be able to eolve the gaem soon

i need the followin players to be on my side with my upcoming push. You dont have to agree with it or vote with it, but i’ll need support.
I am town and i think everyone knows that, but im also prone to making simple mistakes. Therefore i need supportive people who will put me on the right path, but still want me to succeed.

humaneatingmonkey
Black
Enchant
Naerys
SaveTheDragones
davesaz

meed these ppl on my side

[gob]

People don't act pissed on mafia accusing them with "Bad logic" they only get angry at town.

wtf?

huh?

[gob]

i dislike dogs honestly

[gob]

@Black
T-Bone/jv/drew

which one do you find the most scummy? And which the least

[gob]

Let me ask the same thing to @Save the Droganes

[gob]

sVe the dragons i think is town. But he is displaying a level of power I have not seen from him before. I will not lie, it frightens me.

[gob]

Enchant

meed these ppl on my side

talk to me about enchant

nah im not focusing on her today

[gob]

STD having cook so low is pretty wack

T-Bone/Dann/Naerys, that's our hero solve

I think this spews STD and T Bone as towns

uhh not really

[gob]

i will not be voting JV today out of spite even if i was interested in it which i'm not

so where we dropping boys and gals and nb pals

whats the point of mentioning the first part about JV? Who is that directed too?

[gob]

sazdave

[gob]

hem

well we dont need any spite in the game. Its needless. Lets judge JV on JV’s merits not some other unrelated persons take

[gob]

UNVOTE: JacksonVirgo[/vote]

[gob]

nobody hammer or ill literally die irl

[gob]

gob if you're planning on pushing someone, do it now so the person csn claim

ill do it when i am ready

[gob]

i need a boost

[gob]

Yea i cant do it, nevermind. Sorry guy

[gob]

wtf happened? a fucking hammer? on fucking Enchant wtf guys?

[gob]

I would have preferred HEM, Enchant was fine and it's exponentially better than me dead

no its really not. if ur not mafia you're quite conceited as a player.

anyway... ripperoni

[gob]

bg

[gob]

bg

I disagree, this was a wonderful game. The scumteam deserves an award for it.

Dannfloor basically threw claiming mason. No offense to you danfloor, it was just the totally wrong play.

[gob]

bg

I disagree, this was a wonderful game. The scumteam deserves an award for it.

Dannfloor basically threw claiming mason. No offense to you danfloor, it was just the totally wrong play.

I disagree, if Black was town there it would have been 100% the correct play. Dann figured out we were scum from the ranger masonclaim so if he kept silent we would have gotten a Black lim through, shot a vocal anti-Pythoner then kept controlling the game like we were already doing.

youre wrong almost certainly trust me.

[gob]

I think StD is one of the best players on the site. There's a difference between being bad at the game and not trying. I think the drive and motivation isn't always there for StD but that's completely fine. We're just playing a game and we can put as much or as little effort into it as we want. Sometimes our schedules don't allow us to put in as much effort as we would like to. The bottom line is that his intuition is pretty damn good when he's town and he's incredibly good at seeming town when he's scum. When he does get pushed as scum he does a fantastic job of somehow getting out of it. I can't sort him when I'm town and I think that says a lot about his skill level, and maybe it says a little about mine too

LOL

[gob]

Thank you for the positive things everyone

You were awesome dude. Didnt sus you for a second