open 910 - a series of extremely codependent relationships i {game overrr)
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yaaawn. good morning everyone-
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oh i am but it's the start of the day. and also i took a two hour long nap so it's like i'm a prince waking up from his slumber-
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if we're going to continue this analogy fire is the knight who's climbed a tower to free me and awaken me with true love's kiss etc-
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unfortunately he's not here right now though so it's just me your old pal jupiter-
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or we could do a twist on this trope be a little interesting i could be a prince atop a tower for the purpose of hiding away from the rest of the world and he is the dragon who mercilessly slaughters the guys who want to kiss me while i'm sleepingIn post 19, Sunflower wrote: if we're going to continue this analogy fire is the knight who's climbed a tower to free me and awaken me with true love's kiss etc
for people unfamiliar with me i like to spam thread sorry
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thanks bloodb0t
for some reason i thought you were an alt when you first joined and i have no idea why-
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i guess the upside of beign really annoying to play with is that we never get prodded-
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good idea. death to you VOTE: Doctor Drew-
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i was originally gonna self-vote but realized i was at e-2 and then scum would hammer and then that'd throw the game LOL-
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does scum not have a nightkill-
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VOTE: Sunflower GetLimmed Any%-
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GOOD MORNING I JUST WOKE UP IT'S FOUR AM AND IM FEELING UNHINGED AFF-
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he spoils me too much, he would never!!!!! dont you dare insinuate such horrible things about my knight in shining armorIn post 61, White Lotus wrote: I like to imagine fire slaps JupiterXV hands every time he does something like this.
Basically hydra gameplay.
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this setup feels difficult to me
maybe we'll learn how to play it by game 3
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optimal play imo is to day 1 lim the person who is town but feels like they have the worst reads or are least agreeable to townblocking bc then it's easier to consolidate day 2
this is mostly a joke
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yeah it looks like mafia win this setup a lot lol
let's change that
unless we roll scum in the next two
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what did i doIn post 62, White Lotus wrote: I am not liking Sunflower at all. Too much dumbtells for my taste.-
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ExplainIn post 75, BloodB0t wrote: Anyways, I don't think sunflower would follow mirrored's vote on me like that if they were both scum-
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i think 91 is an accurate read on the situation and i like that black is making it
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i also think enchant is towny btw
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tinfoiling black/mirrored for post-game cred
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yeah ummm black is scum-
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feels like itIn post 113, Doctor Drew wrote:
Why?In post 112, Sunflower wrote: yeah ummm black is scum
Her questioning of Blood seems fine-
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i liked it at first and then it kept going and then i didn't like itIn post 113, Doctor Drew wrote:
Why?In post 112, Sunflower wrote: yeah ummm black is scum
Her questioning of Blood seems fine
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can sm1 delete those posts lol-
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let's not focus on it please thanks
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91 i thought was a good take and was similar to what i felt when i skimmed some of his town openings. there was one in particular where he got votes early and had like a really similar self-conscious vibe when responding to itIn post 116, Black wrote:In post 114, Sunflower wrote:
feels like itIn post 113, Doctor Drew wrote:
Why?In post 112, Sunflower wrote: yeah ummm black is scum
Her questioning of Blood seems fine
ElaborateIn post 115, Sunflower wrote:
i liked it at first and then it kept going and then i didn't like itIn post 113, Doctor Drew wrote:
Why?In post 112, Sunflower wrote: yeah ummm black is scum
Her questioning of Blood seems fine
the digging into it afterwards idk, felt like you were looking for something to do rather than it really being something meaningful for alignment to me
it's kind of a vibe thing and not that strong to me but it felt a little off
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reasonably towny i think
i did also originally think the focus on counterwagons was weird and thats why i voted him, but i think his latest responses have felt good to me
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i don't think i know how to read drew (maybe ill learn by game 3) and i usually tend to scumread his style but i am nonetheless finding his dogged attachment to the dumbtell point to feel towny
i can kinda feel the town brain under there going "i just KNOW this is important" while not really fully being able to convey why
idk it's possible he does that as scum as well. it feels somewhat less likely to me though
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i also think white lotus response to it is fairly towny
and i think bloodbath still probably is also towny
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i think this setup is maybe best solved by townhunting/townblocking because scum can't break up the townblock with a nightkill
so if 3 town successfully find each other and hold firm then it's a win
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you know whats a really fun setup? coalition. let's play coalition
HEAL: bloodbot
HEAL: white lotus
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i genuinely was going to heal drew and as my fingers were going to type it i got hit with a bolt of memory of one of his posts that just vibed as off to me and somehow it redirected my fingers into typing white lotus instead
my brain is very reluctant to allow me to townread drew there's just always something there that when i read his posts my eyes narrow and i automatically think "hmmmm this could come from scum" even if ive rationally decided it's less likely
i probably shouldn't clear enchant off things like having opinions they care about and pushing for reads but i also am going to do that anyway until i find a reason not to
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frantically rereading this post to make sure it's actually true and that i didn't dumbtellIn post 193, Sunflower wrote: i think this setup is maybe best solved by townhunting/townblocking because scum can't break up the townblock with a nightkill
so if 3 town successfully find each other and hold firm then it's a win
i think we're good
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i think it's probably also optimal play as scum to relatively aggressively townblock/gather townreads particularly on people who like to reverse-omgus because if you can successfully secure one (1) town ally and successfully guide them away from your partner and you don't vote them then you simply win the game
so yeah whoever tries to townblock first is probably scum. watch out
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"why are you giving mafia advice on how they should play, rather than holding onto that idea and using it to form reads?" you may ask
a valid question. fair point. i see where you're coming from
it's because i want each of these games to be harder than the last. i want it to feel like we're climbing a mountain where the enemies that we are continually fighting as we make our ascent (i should mention that in this simile there are monsters on the mountain that we have to fight in order to make our ascent) learn from their past mistakes and grow stronger and come at us from new angles and with new tricks
the monsters represent the scum but they also represent our own doubts and fears. and when we finally reach the top having conquered them all or when we tragically fail and fall crushed and defeated, either way it will have been worth it because we know that we didn't take the easy path
im in it for all 3, i hope you all are too. ill miss you if you're gone.please don't leave me
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important disclaimer that you literally do not have to read anything i say
pagetop :c
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i just realized that ive been misreading the game title this whole time since signups were originally posted
i thought it was "a series of increasingly codependent relationships"
sorry skygazer i like that better and am going to choose to reject reality and continue under the belief that my initial reading was correct
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yes that's true. so why indeed. hmm good qIn post 203, Black wrote: Sunflower is there any reason neither of your heads have voted me yet? Seems like you've narrowed down your PoE enough to do so
on some level, conflict avoidance probably
also i thought people would be more likely to join a wagon on mirrored and votes aren't very interesting to me if they aren't a part of wagons
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what's your read on us?
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my phone autocorrected bloodbot apologiesIn post 192, Sunflower wrote: i also think white lotus response to it is fairly towny
and i think bloodbath still probably is also towny
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idk how to push people LOL not feeling confident about anyone at all tbhhIn post 203, Black wrote: Sunflower is there any reason neither of your heads have voted me yet? Seems like you've narrowed down your PoE enough to do so-
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idk if ive been subtle
why do you think WL is scum
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i think i also talked about how enchant having like strong takes and opinions early on and having things that they believe in is towny for them
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maybe i just agreed with someone else who said that idr
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i guess i didn't elaborate on the first one but that was what i was thinking at the timeIn post 195, Sunflower wrote: i probably shouldn't clear enchant off things like having opinions they care about and pushing for reads but i also am going to do that anyway until i find a reason not to
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oh i forgot drew was the one who originally called enchant towny for similar reasons in 83
is it silly to consider it towny that drew reversed course on that pretty quickly and decided to then push enchant even as they continued to be active? maybe
some might call it scummily inconsistent even. i don't know why my instinct is to call it towny
i guess because it feels less agenda'd, like he didn't just write off enchant in his brain as "oh well enchant is polarized and already towntelled so they can't be pushed". he continued to evaluate
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maybe
i don't really feel anything i could say would change what drew's doing though nor would i especially want to
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i think in current gamestate if WL is town then flipping them is fine and maybe even necessary for the sake of tomorrow, and if WL is scum then we win
i don't want it done early though and i would 100% of the time rather flip mirrored bc fmpov everyone else wants WL dead and so their only possible partner really is mirrored. and i think mirrored has several other possible partners so it's a better flip
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im really excited for the next level mindgames people are gonna pull out in game 3 but i think for now it's fairly likely that scum play this relatively standard
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i think it's hard for me to imagine heavily protesting any flip in particular at this time tbh. maybe id protest bloodb0t
drew wouldn't be my favorite choice but i find drew difficult to sort so idk
do you think he's scummy? i think you've played with him more than i have
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