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i broadly like bingle's takes. i have no reads. apparently a lot is riding on what words i decide to type right now though so if it's better for me to have reads then i actually have reads-
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i used an autocomplete bot and then set a 3 hour timer and used a different autocomplete bot.In post 100, the worst wrote:
hi implosionIn post 79, implosion wrote: i broadly like bingle's takes. i have no reads. apparently a lot is riding on what words i decide to type right now though so if it's better for me to have reads then i actually have reads
how do you craft such an objectively perfect opening post in a gamestate which is so fascinated by the concept of your opening post
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I can definitely see where thread seeming-consensus is coming from atm; I can jive with PC town and also worst town to some degree and also with Black being sketchy, but i'm not gonna go as far as scummy right now-
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33 feels kind of like flaccid criticism in some way, like "you didn't care about figuring out his alignment" is implicitly calling it scummy but then a couple posts later you call it townish. I really wouldn't call it a read overall though there was just that and like one or two other posts that sort of pinged me but I do not feel strongly about it whatsoever; I do however see where the sentiment is coming fromIn post 119, Black wrote:
Can you explain your read on me?In post 117, implosion wrote: I can definitely see where thread seeming-consensus is coming from atm; I can jive with PC town and also worst town to some degree and also with Black being sketchy, but i'm not gonna go as far as scummy right now-
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Friendly reminder nm is in the game; no early e-1s please-
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one person townread them and i'm remarkably impressionable.In post 124, Klick wrote:
What has given you the impression that worst is a consensus townreadIn post 117, implosion wrote: I can definitely see where thread seeming-consensus is coming from atm; I can jive with PC town and also worst town to some degree and also with Black being sketchy, but i'm not gonna go as far as scummy right now-
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i don't really vibe with the bingle wagon.-
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When I voted Klick it was basically a feeler. I didn't want a wagon on them, which is why I unvoted. I'm sort of anti-wagon because I just don't trust people to not E-1 people.
I think ceejay is somewhat scummy. I think Klick's reason for scumreading ceejay is alright. I think Klick is mildly townish but not a lock by any means yet. I see where Black is coming from with the overly-nuanced comment but I don't really know how to evaluate its merit in the absence of like, a deep knowledge of how Klick tends to play/approach things. I don't really see where Black is coming from with her points on ceejay being townish.-
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i just typed up a thing about Klick (responding to Black) but it disappeared. alas. it wasn't that long, I just mentioned liking things like 192 - 195 and also the way that they talked about themselves, but it's not a strong read.
I haven't been taking this game especially seriously so far. If you want to think the thread consensus thing is surface level scummy because I called a single person's opinion thread consensus because I wasn't looking all that closely then I can't really stop you but it's almost definitely something I'd be more careful about on average as scum bc I usually am a lot more careful/fearful of saying something wrong as scum.In post 306, Political Clout wrote: I think what is pinging the most about implosion is the "consensus" read. It sounds very performative and then the reason implosion gave was that implosion was very impressionable? I forget. It looks like someone trying to blend in. It also looks like they waved away any criticism of that with the well whatever I'm impressionable. instead of saying something much more honest and maybe scummy like I (implosion) wasn't reading the thread or I (implosion) wasn't really paying attention to others reads or I (implosion) forgot other people were playing the game or something idk That would be an easy town read for me. Because to me it is just implosion trying to sound like they read the thread completely and don't want to move from that premise to appear that they are playing the game, because in that post where implosion says they are impressionable it looks like they went back to check just how many people were townreading the worst to not move off the premise that the game was read. Whether or not the game was read isn't really alignment indicative imo. What is, is trying to appear to be with the town while saying oh look everyone I(implosion) read the entire thread.
The impressionable thing was a joke. Like sure I could say "I wasn't really paying attention to the game" but like, why would i say that when i can make a joke that says the same thing. idk, you saying I should have said it in these ways is really weird or maybe you just don't think it was a joke and think I was seriously saying that I'm using my impressionability as an excuse, which, yeah sure I guess you can't take things at face value in a mafia game or whatever but idk that just seems pretty silly.
Ihadread the thread completely, I just wasn't double checking things and had remembered seeing some pro-duck sentiment and then my brain conflated that into being thread consensus probably because I personally agreed with it somewhat.-
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I will say my activity level is a healthy mix of RL reasons and because I've kind of realized over time that I just am bad at d1s. I'll probably pick up somewhat this weekend
I'm curious about Dann's current take on me
Somewhat like this post, don't see a whole lot of reason for Klick to make it as scum.In post 314, Klick wrote: I'm looking forward to the telling Not_Mafia reactions and Not_Mafia case from this exciting Not_Mafia wagon-
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I find it kind of astonishing that you'd write this sentence honestly. Like the hedging sure but like there's absolutely no way you actually have any confidence that is anywhere significantly above random in that proposition. Do you just say random shit as town? Do you genuinely think that the lurkers in this game are significantly >rand to be scum? Because I at least have seen very little from the thread as a whole that makes me feel like it's lots of townies waiting for the lurker scum to show up (granted I have access to the info that I'm town but still)In post 352, the worst wrote: I think there's at least one scum and probably two in [nm, implo, cjv] and maybe that's in reverse order? I'm also probably like, incorrect, because this game has a number of skilled scum players in it-
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I do like this post somewhat but I really don't like most of duck's posts between voting me and itIn post 361, the worst wrote: actually something just clicked in my brain and I am very surprised that implo has had so little to contribute so far and I'm more happy w this vote than I expected to me
The vote on me almost feels like, not wagoning for the sake of wagoning or vote hopping for the sake of vote hopping, but like vote hopping for the sake of vote hopping for the sake of vote hopping, if that makes sense. Like duck is jumping on me for the sake of looking like they're jumping around a lot.-
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I'm glad that Bingle is calling Dann sort of very softly scummy. I think Dann is not even close to escaping his scumrange in this game and I *think* there have been a few townreads on him and I'm a bit aghast at that. I feel like Dann is being reasonable and responsive and playing well and doing all the things that, he does as scum to my knowledge (at least from Toriel's patience). I haven't read any people's in-depth reasons for calling him town but I'm very skeptical of him being >rand town and think there's a good chance he's >rand scum though I don't have good reasons for thinking that in particular-
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Ever so slight lean town on N_M's spate of posting.
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Bingle and Black are townleans in that I generally don't have issues with their play and I don't think I understand their scum ranges well enough to say anything with confidence right now and I think both of them have done some stuff that I like, maybe black a bit more so than Bingle
PC is nominally town, I think Klick is townish (I guess probably my strongest townread but not very strong nonetheless), so very deeply unconfident scumpool right now is worst/cj/dann i guess (n_m being next in line I think)-
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I'm specifically astonished at you saying that "probably both" scum are in those 3 players. Unless you have a different definition of "probably" from me, that is a wildly strong claim.In post 393, the worst wrote: ya I've seen multiple conversations which felt mutually earnest and I do suspect at least one underperforming player is scum. that happens quite often. i'm astonished that ur astonished.-
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well like i just said your words are projecting a hell of a lot of confidence too so i'm not really sure how exactly i'm supposed to be figuring out how confident you're actually claiming to beIn post 394, the worst wrote: that's a reasonable characterisation! my votes are projecting more confidence than my heart feels
The nm slight gut town is just for the structure of the posting spate, the commenting on almost every post -> "i'm exhausted" after like 6. Again, very weak, but I think the bruntness of "I'm exhausted" maybe comes from town more often-
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In post 399, the worst wrote: why is cjv in your scumpool? I agree w you on Klick and like, vaguely agree with a bunch of your reads
I didn't really like 55, not as strongly as Klick but I thought Klick's point wasn't bad (as I mentioned) and 55 as a whole feels maybe generically like an early game scum post. I don't really understand the reasons he's being called town, in particular I think black gave a reason that I couldn't really parse. And like, I don't really have any reason to take him out.
This seems like a weird way to phrase this question when he's also in your scumpool; do you think he oughtn't be in mine or is it surprising to you that he is?-
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why would i latch on to thisIn post 409, the worst wrote: I'm really struggling to see "I'm exhausted" as anything but a joke I'm surprised you aren't latching onto his apparent instant townread of Klick-
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I'm a mathematician. I see you saying "probably 2 scum are in these 3 players" and I read this as you saying that you think there is a >50% chance that a proposition is true, when that proposition has a baseline probability fypov of ~10% (and, fmpov assuming you're town, the baseline probability of it being correct goes down to <5%) and that's more confidence than I have ever viscerally felt for anything on day one of a forum mafia game frankly, or maybe on any dayIn post 408, the worst wrote: you also acknowledge that my level of confidence in that read is simultaneously intense and non-committal which I agree with
you're telling me you've never had multiple conflicting thoughts about a situation at the same time and started explaining one then realising you can't remember if you actually even like that thought half way through the explanation?
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I asked you last page what your current take of me is; care to elaborate?In post 400, Dannflor wrote: implosion/ceejay feels unfortunately likely-
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I don’t really see how this describes my play this game. I don’t think I’ve given any especially spicy takes except for on the worst right now, the only anti status quo thing I’m really doing is yelling at ducks stance that scum is clearly all in the lurkers because, among other reasons, it’s like a 5% chance fmpovIn post 417, Klick wrote:
This is exactly how I would describe his play in our last game together, where he was scum and both him and his partner were locked out fairly earlyIn post 403, the worst wrote: if I'm a wolf I ain't that deep I'm moreso referring to his core trait this game being refusal to accept any form of status quo
I’m not even disagreeing that there is scum in the lurkers! ceejay is in my scumpool and I said that nm is the weakest of my townreads, ie is in the scummier half of the rest of the player list-
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Okay well I disagree lolIn post 421, the worst wrote:
because (bluntly) it actually feels meaningful.In post 411, implosion wrote:
why would i latch on to thisIn post 409, the worst wrote: I'm really struggling to see "I'm exhausted" as anything but a joke I'm surprised you aren't latching onto his apparent instant townread of Klick
It’s not even clear that he’s townreading klick, he said klick ceejay is possibly scum theatre. I don’t read “good vote” and “bad vote” as necessarily meaning anything and frankly I think when I read nms posts the first time my brain literally ignored their content at the level of whose votes were being called good or bad or who those votes were on-
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i also disagree w this btw. my d1 reads are normally garbage. my reads get better over time. Sometimes I have reads that I feel particularly good about d1 and they're probably alright, though sometimes they too are deeply wrong; in toriel's patience I had two pretty solid townreads d1 (dannflor and sakura hana) which were on 2/3 of the scumteam. Which is part of why there's a part of me that refuses to accept any townreads on Dann right now as being legitimately >rand. Not that it's not possible to do so. I just don't think anything he's done is necessarily unmotivated in the way that I think he has to be at some point to be town, if that makes sense. I'm probably not going to be able to get a solid read on him for a long time personallyIn post 401, the worst wrote: implosion is either the messiah figure this town needs to root out the deepwolves, or he is scum, and I'm yearning to discover which-
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i shone a spotlight on the person who was already calling out those townreads. that's hardly an act of anti status quo ness, it's an act of amplifying a voice that currently exists that i like the message ofIn post 427, the worst wrote: you specifically shone a spotlight on townreads of dann as an act of anti status quo ness!-
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yes it was obviously a bit. i understand that.In post 427, the worst wrote: pedit: I definitely think we disagree, I'm still like 99% sure the exhausted comment was part of the bit :p-
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I don’t “want you dead” in particular, I wouldn’t have voted you if black hadn’t. And again I don’t trust my reads lol.In post 433, the worst wrote: implo it kinda feels like you're forcing a "gotcha" vibe through the definition of my use of probably in a throwaway sentence which I then contradicted. like, within the sentence. you also don't disagree with the conclusion (you actively scumread cjv, apparently think we are scum together, and nm is not outside of your eventual natural POE) but I don't really know how to meet you anywhere on this. it kinda feels like you decided I was evil when black voted me and we've kinda been throwing words back at each other.
sorry if you're town I really enjoy your style and you're super cool. we just aren't gelling here at all and I'm kind of just in a place where I think it's probably bc you want me dead.
I agree that if you’re town (and also maybe if you’re scum) that this would look like me taking a throwaway comment and drilling it for no good reason but I don’t actually know your alignment so alas-
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I feel like this doesn't really adequately explain how you feel about me. I don't necessarily disagree in that I don't know that my stances are dramatically different from what they'd be if I were scum. (Though really I don't think I know my scumgame all that well enough to know what they'd be).In post 442, Dannflor wrote: ceejay/implo makes a lot more sense because implo is doing pretty much exactly what he'd need to be doing as scum by distancing but still primarily pushing in the more active players
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i mean if you're scum then it's entirely possible that i have identified something, even if it was meant as a throwaway comment, that you actually would not have said as townIn post 486, the worst wrote: that's such a surreal qualifier I don't think my alignment matters in my perceiving you taking a random throwaway comment and drilling down on it-
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And also as much as it was a "throwaway sentence". it's a thing you said in this game. i'm allowed to scrutinize it-
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(not that you're saying that I'm not, but etc)-
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I think Political Clout's read on me feels sort of viscerally like the kind of incorrect scumread that I think a fair number of players with particular dispositions are likely to get on me in a first game with me when they are town. And so it doesn't really worry me at all. Duck I think not vibing with me is fine but honestly I think I find the laziness of the probably-2-scum-in-the-lurkers comment, and the now hopping on the "well maybe it's just implo + ceejay" train, as offputting. Which is not to say that duck is not doing other things too, they are, idk.-
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nahIn post 491, the worst wrote: we have different brains!-
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remember, we are linked by our timezones-
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Anyway I'm about to get on a plane and then likely will be busy all day so la de da i do just wanna hear dann talk about me more :'(-
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Basically I have no idea how to read you and I have a dream that somehow you commenting on my weird non read of you vis a vis toriels patience will somehow lead to me acquiring a read on youIn post 498, Dannflor wrote: I dont really think you’re scum implo-
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I genuinely have no idea how you get "engaging for the sake of engaging" from my ISO. I spent the first day or two doing basically nothing because I wasn't really into the game yet and felt no need to engage. And then yesterday I basically posted a mad dash series of posts immediately before boarding a plane while i was able to. I've searched for specific things from specific people. How the heck are you getting "engaging for the sake of engaging" from my ISO?In post 517, ceejayvinoya wrote:implosion I don't really vibe with either. I feel like he's engaging for the sake of engaging and I thought sometimes he goes out a bit of his way to make his posts a bit more vague? Granted this could just also be how he posts but I've been feeling like parsing implosion's posts sort of feels a bit harder than parsing other players
is this scummy? am not sure but its what got my attention
If my posts are vague or hard to parse, it's either an issue of the way I write not coming through well to you or possibly just like, me being obtuse for a joke. I'm always happy to clarify or elaborate if there's anything specific.-
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i'm intrigued but probably unlikely to be more than intrigued-
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at its speed or slowness?In post 544, the worst wrote: I'm surprised at the pace at which he's working through this game-
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damn. i wonder too, only one way to find out i guessIn post 546, the worst wrote:
at its inconsistency I think. I feel like it took you a while to get into it, then you processed in a frenzy, and now I'm kind of like wondering what the future of implosion in open 908 looks likeIn post 545, implosion wrote:
at its speed or slowness?In post 544, the worst wrote: I'm surprised at the pace at which he's working through this game-
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i didn'treallyprocess in a frenzy per se. I kept up with the game a bit while I was not really posting but had days that were occupied by stuff and/or I was just not in the mood (but mostly the former I think). And then I had time. Also frankly I am motivated by having pressure on me sometimes-
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I guess if this is your summary of your position on me then you presumably think the pacing thing is scum-indicative, beyond just being surprising? or no? If so why?In post 544, the worst wrote: I'm surprised at the pace at which he's working through this game (I guess this has gotten better but only after it was called out, and this game is a bit slow paced in general) and I think his read on me felt very forced
I've mentioned like multiple times that I'm wary this is pretty introspective and would love someone else with a different opinion to talk through it
I frankly just don't begrudge you calling my read on you forced, in some way it is because, again, i am extensively bad at getting meaningful d1 scumreads-
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Klick, the problem is you haven't played with town me recently, you've only played with scum me so you're seeing an aspect of my game that is similar to that game and assuming it's alignment-indicative. I don't even disagree entirely that that aspect of my play is similar to coalition; I disagree a bit with it because I'm notjustsaying that I'm motivated by pressure. I'm also motivated by how available I am IRL. And by my mood. And by whether or not there happens to be interesting content (and there wasn't much early for me). Like, the weird-looking thing that I was attacking duck for has served as a hook for me to get more in to the game.
Like yeah, of course my posting will depend partially on the flow of the thread. It's a game of forum mafia. I'm more motivated to post things when there are more interesting things to analyze or react to or whatnot-
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Like for instance I saw duck's posts a couple hours ago and considered responding to them but now you're giving me something that I feel I need to react to (because I think you're town, so I care about your opinion on me in the game) so I'm also going to go respond to those now. Could this be me being survivalistic as scum? Sure, in principle, but I think it's just as simple to explain with me being town.
Yeah I don't think I'm especially good as a rule of thumb at progressing the gamestate d1. I can think of some specific cases where I've been able to (like a pyp game where I had one strong read that pushed the gamestate pretty strongly) but I think the average case for me as town d1 is to not really have a massive impact.In post 555, the worst wrote: this isn't very meta informed but scum tend to benefit from having limited insight & limiting the work they put into progressing the gamestate in a positive direction. to me it felt like you weren't throwing in many original thoughts and then the first original (or Bingle-inspired-original) thought felt kind of unnatural that's definitely a space where I'm looking for scum.
WRT my thoughts on Dann feeling unnatural, that could just be you ignoring the context of the last game I played with him. Or maybe you're just wrong. or scum. la de da.-
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ceejay ignoring me while I'm in the thread, while I'm professedly one of his top two scumreads, and while I'm at e-2, and while I have an outstanding question to him, and while a bunch of people are calling us the scumteam (though I guess that's leveled off somewhat) is annoying. Off chance that it's scum trying to make me look viably a partner although it's possible as either alignment he missed my post directed at him or decided not to respond for some other reason.
Klick, have you seen enough more from ceejay at this point to want to go more in depth?-
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Okay. How well do you think the way I'm playing lines up with how you think I'd be playing as town?-
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I actually think I don't have a good understanding of them (although now that i'm p-edited having written two paragraphs maybe that's not true lol). I felt like I was playing kind of mediocre at best in the coalition game we played; I think the other coalition game that I played ~half a year ago was about as good as my scumgame gets though, and that game kind of made me feel like my scum range is wider than i had thought it was.In post 565, Klick wrote: Pretty decently from my understanding
What do you think are the noticeable differences between your town and scum games?
I think one thing that maybe being scum with fireisredsir has made me realize is that I do tend to plan in the long term as scum; like in that other coalition game I had a particular set of ideas of how things would look over time and was making nightkills on n1 that were intended to set things up on d4. Obviously I don't have a specific long-term plan as town, so maybe it's possible to notice that. I think I'm less careful as town, I will filter what I say somewhat but significantly less so. I sometimes will avoid reading over my posts before clicking submit as scum specifically because I know I'd be less likely to do so as town, but in some cases will need to do so anyway.
I think there definitely are differences in posting patterns as well, they're just not what duck has been talking about. When I'm town I tend to try to work with people, abstractly; like one town game I worked a lot with aisa all game and in toriel's patience I sort of worked with mandate d1 though I had trouble continuing to work with anyone after mandate got replaced. The way that I commit to reads is probably pretty different; as both town and scum I can be a bit intransigent in certain reads in the late game but in a sort of different way, as scum it's more so because I've decided what my best path forward is and as town it's more because I have trouble abandoning something that i've felt strongly about for long enough, but I will still try to audit things. I'm also noncommittal as both but in different ways, as scum I can be intensely noncommittal sometimes because I'm trying to keep options open (I did this in the late game in our coalition game alot; in fact in both coalition games where I was scum recently, I essentially refused to vote first in 3p eLo because I thought there was a chance I could earn the hammer and just wanted to play for the numbers). As town I'm noncommittal up until the point where I feel like I have to commit just because I don't trust myself, on d1 I'm gonna be pretty noncommittal as town just bc I don't trust my own reads but I'll have reads over time that are natural and reinforced through me continuing to audit the read and continue liking it
this is all probably not super useful right now on d1.-
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if this is about my NM townlean then like, that's entirely fairIn post 568, the worst wrote: NM townlean makes no sense but maybe it actually just makes no sense enough-
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you can say that i'm calling NM null if that makes you feel better since NM was 4th from the bottom of my implied reads list-
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I do feel like my reads are stagnating a lot right now which is annoying. Maybe I feel a bit better about Dann than I did last time I talked about how I feel about him, not for any strong reason related to him doing anything, moreso just mulling the read over in general.-
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I’ve been extremely noncommittal this game lol I’ve said many times my reads are garbageIn post 573, the worst wrote: You don't feel all that non-committal or collaborative in this game implo
I haven’t been that collaborative because I haven’t had anyone to work with that I’ve felt great about; my actions toward klick and dann are both geared toward potentially working with them in the long run though-
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hello
i now feel awkward about the way i'm being talked about
i'm trying to be productive today so trying to limit how much i'm thinking about this game
I can see at leastsomeof dann's black case but will need to look at it more closely later and such-
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also fine w ceejay lim
i'll have some more to say soon most likely-
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This is an interesting philosophy I haven't heard before, but I see where it's coming from here.In post 579, Dannflor wrote: in the words of alisae, I just don’t get the vibe that Black “wants to be right”
I also agree that this post kind of stuck out to me. Particularly "how confident are you i'm scum *and* what's your plan to get me faded" is kind of weird, like the answer to the former might imply the answer to the latter being that there is no plan. I can see it being not-all-that-thought-through false bravado as scum in principle.In post 579, Dannflor wrote: the response to me voting her being “what is your plan to fade me” feels contrived. It feels like Black trying to find the towniest looking reaction rather than just her genuine reaction to me tunneling her
Like this:
I don't think this adequately rebuts the Black case to me. I think that when cowbells jumps from person to person in the early game, he does itBingle wrote:I'm seeing what Black is doing as more akin to what cowbells or fleaf do as both alignments in the early game. She's pouncing on every little thing and acting all murder death kill without actual conviction, sure, but I get that more in the sense that she's trying to get to a point where she thinks she is right than in the sense that she's trying to look like she's right, if that makes any sense.withconviction. Like at any given moment, he's ready to rest where he is and hard push the person he's landed on - it's just that he's also ready to jump elsewhere. Here it doesn't really feel that way from Black, it feels like she's flitting about in a way where not a whole lot sticks from person to person. For instance with me, she said she didn't like a sequence of posts, then voted, then later unvoted. But she never really analyzed any of my content beyond that sequence of posts - like the vote on me never really had teeth behind it. Similar with the worst - she's interacted with the worst a lot but hasn't really analyzed the worst's content in depth in a way that would make the read convincing to someone else. It's not that Black's iso is void of analysis but it seems like she isn't really specifically analyzing the content of whoever her vote is on i guess-
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we're all waitingIn post 626, the worst wrote: Hold on I have a thing-
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