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why would we not declare our voting intent before night ends
normal play allows for a claim, so i think we should try to figure out who is going to be voted out in the day before it happens
would suck if we just voted out all our power roles when we could avoid it
i don't mind declaring intent but i feel like nka can influence votes and people might change their votes based on it.
but then imo in an ideal world, we both declare our intents and then confirm who we voted for the night before and after.
and if anybody changes their vote, we can pressure them to explain themselves.
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Post #81 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:06 pm
Postby experience »
In post 68, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I signed up mostly for the troll setup but I won't complain too much if someone else wants to herd cats into voting
In post 45, light_ganski wrote:
yh we claim votes tomorrow and not claiming/fakeclaiming is a policy lim
sounds good to me
There's good reason to try to over-hammer in the nights as that will prevent scum from changing the lim target compared to if we end up with wagons of say 7 v 6 and scum switch from who they've promised to vote. Having extra votes on the main wagon will weaken the ability to perform vote count analysis but I think that is pretty borked in this game anyhow.
In post 12, Cee Mirage wrote:
hi i am a mirage so all votes on me are actually on light_ganski
boop why always me
[abridged]
and why would we wait until afterward to say who we're intending to vote
Not what I'm saying, exactly. Giving intent before is good but I'm not going to policy someone for *changing their mind* provided that they are open about it straight away. I've changed my mind last minute before as town (in fact I think I do it more as town than scum)
*lying* about your vote is an instant policy lim when it gets found out
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Post #604 (isolation #31) » Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:14 pm
Postby experience »
In post 552, OopsieDaisy wrote:
i think people should say who they voted last night just so we can do some wagon analysis. even if scum lie good stuff prolly comes outta it. i voted black ranger.
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Post #650 (isolation #38) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:15 pm
Postby experience »
In post 622, imaginality wrote:
My current thoughts on what we should do:
- if CSF is alive, lim CSF
- if CSF is NKed and flips scum, lim ming or Elements
- if CSF is NKed and flips town, lim light_ganski obviously
- if CSF, out of a desperate attempt to disrupt the game and escape judgment, unleashes a tiger attack on the site before the end of N1, run away faster than CSF so the tigers catch her in an ironic twist of fate
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Post #651 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:21 pm
Postby experience »
In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote:
If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.
good idea
(tho i probably wouldn't have voted br, who i didn't really have a read on, over ming, regardless of my alignment)
In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote:
If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.
What do you mean by this?
If Ming is town then scum knew that it didn't matter where we landed between Moros/Ming/BR. Therefore there's no reason for em to shake up the boat like for example Black did. So I wanna look at the slots who didn't do a whole lot N0 if it turns out Ming is town, because scum are less likely to have been actively engaging and pushing the wagons to and fro imo.
How did Black shake the boat?
By flipping the focus away from Ming and onto BR after my vote onto Ming, alongside initially pushing heavily against Ming during the night prior to that.
But you just said if ming is town, then scum knew they could flip between any of the three you mentioned, since they would all be mis lims.
How does this clear Black?
sure scum *can* flip between any of the three but why would they? black had built up a pretty solid push on ming, before then moving to moros, so abandoning both of those already justified pushes to push another town wagon through last minute instead doesn't really make sense to do as scum there.
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Post #659 (isolation #43) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:38 pm
Postby experience »
only 4 people confirmed they actually ended up voting br, by my count (oopsie, light, csf, thomith).
2 confirmed voting for ming (me and halfasleep).
and 1 for black (drew).
that leaves 4 people, not including br, unaccounted for (elements, ming, black, imag).
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Post #661 (isolation #45) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:43 pm
Postby experience »
but, how can we be sure scum didn't pretend to vote br?
like realistically, only 7 people needed to vote br.
any extra could easily have lied and claimed a vote on br, knowing they can't be disproven.
In post 659, experience wrote:
only 4 people confirmed they actually ended up voting br, by my count (oopsie, light, csf, thomith).
2 confirmed voting for ming (me and halfasleep).
and 1 for black (drew).
that leaves 4 people, not including br, unaccounted for (elements, ming, black, imag).
In post 661, experience wrote:
but, how can we be sure scum didn't pretend to vote br?
like realistically, only 7 people needed to vote br.
any extra could easily have lied and claimed a vote on br, knowing they can't be disproven.
Sorry, overlooked this with in all the cop guilty excitement.
I voted Black Ranger. I'd been asleep the last six hours of N0 - based on where things were at when I checked out I was expecting I'd be voting ming or Moros, but when I caught up and saw where the discussion had ended up it seemed Black Ranger had gained the most consensus by end of day. So I added my vote on Black Ranger (as per my N0 belief that we don't want to risk giving scum a chance to redirect our lims).
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Post #670 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:31 pm
Postby experience »
In post 667, imaginality wrote:
What could be neat in a future variant of this game would be an "election monitor" role who can target a group of say three players each Day phase, and receives the results of who they voted for (not who voted whom, just "two votes on Alice, one vote on Bob"). Or perhaps they can target one player and find out how many people voted that player.