Open 698: Stack the Deck (GAME OVER)

[DuckWorth]

EBWOP: "I still dislike the amount of reads that grapes got so early in the game"

[ironstove]

Someone tell me who I should vote for

[DuckWorth]

How about make up your own reads?

[PMysterious]

Vote Count 1.3

With 13 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

Assemblerotws- 0
Realeo- 1 (grapes)
Chip Butty- 2 (Duckworth, CommKnight)
GameNBurger- 0
ironstove- 0
IceGuy- 2 (Mulch, Luca Blight)
Luca Blight- 0
Duckworth- 0
Mulch- 0
Alchemist21- 0
grapes- 0
CommKnight- 0
UnaBombaH- 3 (Chip Butty, Alchemist 21, Ice Guy)

Also, I want to point out that I am not a fan of being called the "Mafia Traitor". I would cast a vote on CommKnight for saying such a crude thing, but I can not actually vote at all. Plus... I'm already kinda dead.

[Luca Blight]

@Mod

- IceGuy voted Una, not Alch.

[Luca Blight]

And Alch also voted Una.

[Chip Butty]

VOTE: Duckworth

For being slow to confirm, which is a surefire scumtell.

OK, I need a new vote.
Luca likes Suikoden, so I can't vote there anymore...

VOTE: Duckworth

Serious vote.

You've got a serious bare vote on a guy who hasn't confirmed yet?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Unabombah

VOTE: Realio

Overtheorising.

I tr Commtown, his reads list is solid and I agree with it for the most part.

I also tr Realeo based on his posts in Page 8/9 about mafia analysis and his general tone when stating his philosophy on the game.

Chip's vote in 171 is strange and has little basis to it, especially so as we are out of RVS now. Many of his votes are reactionary and trigger-happy at mild issues and therefore they give me a scumvibe.

I still dislike the amount of reads that grapes good so early in the game.

VOTE: ChipButty

Lol 'many of my votes are reactionary'? Really? Many of them? Like, all three, including my joke vote on you?

Duckworth is clearly just parrotting opinions already expressed by others on CK, Realeo, me, and grapes. In other words, he is trying to look like he is scumhunting without doing any real scumhunting. There was absolutely no original thought there whatsoever.

VOTE: Duckworth

[Luca Blight]

Are you really just going to dismiss my entire post like that?

Yes, because you're saying that I'm scum based on things like that I'm unsure with my reads (on page 3 of all places), or that my reads change.

Either you're deliberately misrepping me or you're not reading properly. My vote on you, primarily, was for doing yourself what you scumread Grapes for (looking useful without being so) and that was compounded by your pointless vote and unvote which achieved literally nothing. Hopefully I won't have to repeat myself again on this.

Now you have unvoted Grapes, who is your biggest scum read?

The whole peanut gallery of lurkers. ironstove, Assemblerotws, Duckworth/Riddleton. I'm not going to rank them because they're equally useless. UnaBombaH at least posts but I don't like what I'm seeing. Since there is a wagon on him by a player I consider towny, I'm going to vote him VOTE: UnaBombaH, and hereby express my intention to vote any of the other three if a wagon will form.

I don't like the reasons for this vote or the position he is conveying either - he's focusing on the lurkers who are the easy targets for the lynch. He doesn't care which of them is lynched and has made it clear he will switch to any of them if a wagon forms. Basically this just looks opportunistic to me.

VOTE: Realio

Overtheorising.

This is a bad vote and the justification in #174 is even worse.

And yet ChipButty isn't someone you're considering for the lynch (based on your quote above)? You have genuine reasons to vote ChipButty so why just pick on the lurkers instead?

I'm waiting for his vote to see if he actually meant it. Given how he read my post, I can no longer predict the sentiment of his text.

I'm not voting Luca. I don't consider him particularly scummy.

You said earlier that I had decided to start a wagon on you and was trying to find reasons - that implies a scum read to me, or do you think Town would have similar motivation?

[ironstove]

I don't formulate my own reads, I'm a dog. I listen to people.

[Mulch]

EBWOP: "I still dislike the amount of reads that grapes got so early in the game"

Why?
I could pretty much follow them all

[Mulch]

Except me

[Realeo]

I don't formulate my own reads, I'm a dog. I listen to people.

But a dog supposed to bite bad people. How do you know whether you're going to listen or bite the person giving you the advice?

[Mulch]

I’ll probably do more stuff tmrw. Tbh I forgot this game existed lol

[Chip Butty]

I’ll probably do more stuff tmrw. Tbh I forgot this game existed lol

Lol i know what you mean.

[Luca Blight]

Day 1 has officially begun! The that this day will end is September 31, 2017, at 10:00 A.M. Central Time.

@Mod

- just to point out, September 31 doesn't exist.

You ruined the illusion!

[Realeo]

Fuck, I didn't pay attention that this is 12 days deadline not 14 days deadline.

VOTE: CB

[Chip Butty]

Day 1 has officially begun! The that this day will end is September 31, 2017, at 10:00 A.M. Central Time.

@Mod

- just to point out, September 31 doesn't exist.

Don't argue with the Mod lol. If he says there is a September 31, there is a September 31.

[PMysterious]

Well, before I saw Luca point it out, I realized... I am a massive idiot. September 31st does not exist. (Way to go, me. Way to be a dummy.)

So, I will update the day to end on October 1st, instead.

[Alchemist21]

Well, before I saw Luca point it out, I realized... I am a massive idiot. September 31st does not exist. (Way to go, me. Way to be a dummy.)

So, I will update the day to end on October 1st, instead.

You might look into using a countdown timer too.



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[UnaBombaH]

Do you have any actual thoughts on the game currently?

I looked back through your posts and it's all jokes and pointless posts.

You must have some reads by now, even if they're weak.

This part is the most important one: I'm not one to normally shitpost through the game.
I've been trying a new approach to day 1.

The thing is: I suck at early game reading because I don't "understand" tone.
I mainly read interactions, and this game had very few good ones in the first 5 pages or so.
I already admitted as much: they all felt very weird and instead of AI reads, I felt like some of it almost gave better indications on IQs..

In a game like this that has either a slower start, or interactions I can't read well enough to react, I now tried to pull the focus on my own actions.
Anyone who has been noting my behavior in a negative manner so far has been gaining some minor towncred from me.

The thing about scum is that they want players who aren't "gamesolve-y" to make it to the lategame, and therefore don't always latch onto people who post, but only "keep appearances".
And that is what I have been trying to create: fluff.

Alchemist

is my first townread simply because they took the step to call me out on it.
On the other hand, I DO have one scumlean based on how they put their vote on me.

IceGuy

voted after Alchemist had "bit the bullet" in making a base for a wagon, and instead of following his reasonable argument, IceGuy only said he is willing to vote all lurkers and just happened to choose me from amongst them.
And therefore I shall VOTE: IceGuy.

Slight townlean on

Luca Blight

for calling IceGuy out before I got to it. (and also the Suikoden thing, that actually affects my gameplay..)

[Realeo]

Do you have any actual thoughts on the game currently?

I looked back through your posts and it's all jokes and pointless posts.

You must have some reads by now, even if they're weak.

This part is the most important one: I'm not one to normally shitpost through the game.
I've been trying a new approach to day 1.

The thing is: I suck at early game reading because I don't "understand" tone.
I mainly read interactions, and this game had very few good ones in the first 5 pages or so.
I already admitted as much: they all felt very weird and instead of AI reads, I felt like some of it almost gave better indications on IQs..

In a game like this that has either a slower start, or interactions I can't read well enough to react, I now tried to pull the focus on my own actions.
Anyone who has been noting my behavior in a negative manner so far has been gaining some minor towncred from me.

The thing about scum is that they want players who aren't "gamesolve-y" to make it to the lategame, and therefore don't always latch onto people who post, but only "keep appearances".
And that is what I have been trying to create: fluff.

Alchemist

is my first townread simply because they took the step to call me out on it.
On the other hand, I DO have one scumlean based on how they put their vote on me.

IceGuy

voted after Alchemist had "bit the bullet" in making a base for a wagon, and instead of following his reasonable argument, IceGuy only said he is willing to vote all lurkers and just happened to choose me from amongst them.
And therefore I shall VOTE: IceGuy.

Slight townlean on

Luca Blight

for calling IceGuy out before I got to it. (and also the Suikoden thing, that actually affects my gameplay..)

So I, representing ChipButty, am going to vote you.

Chip Butty votes UnaBombah

Overtheorising.

[Realeo]

On a serious note, I am having a hard time. I find the degree of scumminess of ChipButty is bolder than IceGuy, but I find IceGuy less likely to be town.

Using mathematical notation, on a spectrum of 0 to 1 for 0 is town, if the probability function of rolling town of both player is Gaussian distribution, median ChipButty < median IceGuy but standard deviation ChipButty > standard deviation Ice Guy.

[UnaBombaH]

So I, representing ChipButty, am going to vote you.

Chip Butty votes UnaBombah

Overtheorising.

No need to be rude.

[Realeo]

[Realeo]

Do you know that mafiascum is the only forum where my joke delivery rate is literally 0%?