In post 1858, CultOfAthena wrote:I don't think it was a question of reason – I don't think EP was even around for that wagon in the first place.
In post 1858, CultOfAthena wrote:Max is a gut townread to me. If he's scum he's been playing a very nonchalant game for having both of his partners lynched one after the other. More than that, he has some comments in his ISO regarding HWS!scum and tex!scum that really don't seem to come from a partner:
In post 1863, mozamis wrote:love to hear people thoughts on Klick scum?
Because that kind of superficial interaction is common in general. Lots of people ignored texcat on D1, myself included. It's cherry picking to single out EP for this.In post 1870, CultOfAthena wrote:In post 1869, Beefster wrote:Personally, I feel like this is reaching. D1 is usually a shot in the dark. There were a lot of other players he didn't really mention on D1. This looks like cherry picking.
I am not faulting him for simply not mentioning texcat enough on day one – I'm saying that the one mention he had of texcat was superficial. How is that "cherry picking"?
COA wrote:What kind of scum derails a mislynch to bus? That is the dumbest possible strategy.
You're not getting what I'm saying. EP wasn't "derailing" the texcat wagon to bus – he was hopping off of it to have his vote on a scumbuddy when the day ended (in the moz lynch). Nothing about it is a dumb strategy in the slightest – I'd say it's a fairly good strategy.
COA wrote:I don't see how this scum!EP tex bus makes any sense. It's a dumb move because WIFOM and bussing almost always comes back to bite you in the butt. EP is clearly not this stupid... We could get into WIFOM here, but we have room for 2 mislynches and I'd say EP's third on the chopping block anyway.
More votes on COA.
"Because WIFOM"? I don't think you actually understood what I was saying.
In post 1876, Thor665 wrote:In post 1858, CultOfAthena wrote:I don't think it was a question of reason – I don't think EP was even around for that wagon in the first place.
He was absolutely around, he just didn't comment on the wagon at all.In post 1858, CultOfAthena wrote:Max is a gut townread to me. If he's scum he's been playing a very nonchalant game for having both of his partners lynched one after the other. More than that, he has some comments in his ISO regarding HWS!scum and tex!scum that really don't seem to come from a partner:
Two questions naturally seem to stem up from this;
1. How is Max 'nonchalant' and EP is 'not nonchalant'? COuld I get a short list of who isn't being nonchalant and a description of how they're being nonchalant? (this feels like bogus reasoning to me so I want to understand it better or be able to showcase your inability to describe it in order to attack you)
2. I note you touting a number of examples of Max listing Tex and HWS as scumreads Day 1 as a reason not to scumread him.
I'll note that, despite these reads, he wasn't ever *voting* either of those slots. He was voting EP. How does that affect/not affect your read of him?In post 1863, mozamis wrote:love to hear people thoughts on Klick scum?
I currently spit mockingly on the idea that Klick is scum.
In post 1873, CultOfAthena wrote:EP isn't at all acting like he believes that my lynch ends the game. Compare his last post and vote on me to moz or to Beefster and they way they've gone about this.In post 1872, Errantparabola wrote:The intent behind my line of questions to Athena: as third scum getting lynched ends the game. Third scum would not be willing to get lynched under any circumstance. Town might be willing to get lynched, especially if they thought that it would result in a gamewinning lynch for town next day. I would have actually thought that this line of questioning was obvious enough (RC did something similar to me in Space Invaders I think) and I expected for Athena to say something like "yeah I'd be willing to get lynched but I'd rather just lynch you now first" or something like that. Unsure what to make of her response.
I think I've only ever seen people say that they'd be willing to get shot or to get vigged as scum trying to act nonchalant. The question also feels like a no win situation – say "yes" and people just lynch me. Say "no" and I get called the last scum to concerned about the game ending.
In post 1879, Beefster wrote:Basically, I reject your EP case because it revolves around a bus move that is actually really stupid and is basically a guaranteed loss.
In post 1880, mozamis wrote:yes, we all know your upset because i voted you a while ago -try and get over it for gods sake and stop being rude.
In post 237, HeWhoSwims wrote:Leaves at null: ErrantP, texcat, Klick, and Thor, but apparently we need to read Thor as... Thor.