Open 674: Duck Duck Goose [Game Over]

[hapahauli]

Rels is SlySly and SlySly's play here is town.

Rels is not SlySly. He's not an alt - it's his first game on the site.

hapahauli, Allomancer and Moogin can be my scumreads.

That's well and nice, but what's scummy about us?

[KidAmn]

Kid needs to make re-showing too.

I know, I do have a relatively busy life outside of this site though, especially on weekends.

Far too many people coasting along not posting at all right now. F.E.C.'s complete lack of any content and then suddenly 4 posts in a row attacking Aubrey and Creature is all kinds of weird and feels a lot like someone maintaining the absolute minimum required to stay in the game - whether or not that's "scummy" is hard to say, but it's an incredibly anti-town way to play (and yes, there is a difference between "anti-town" and "scummy".

Similarly something feels off to me about Creature - the rather blasé nature of their posting, throwing out town and scum-reads with little to no reasoning (looking at their ISO, their longest post is a whole 3 lines?)... it just comes across as the opposite of "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" - and certainly not a tale told by an idiot. It's deliberate and I dislike it, but unfortunately it matches up with looking at their posting in a couple of other games I've looked at. Having Allomancer as one of their scumreads despite them being so inactive they've picked up a prod also feels lazy as hell, as if they're covering themselves by saying "I had a scumread on Allomancer" for if/when a "fuck it, get rid of these lurkers" wagon happens.

Look at that crap. You know I didn't buddy in our last game as scum.

[Aubrey]

Ew. Using the same gif twice in one game. Now that is just boring. Where you gonna put that vote of yours?

[KidAmn]

I've been driving the wife around all day, cut a fella some slack on the meme game.
As for the vote - Honestly, right now I could go for F.E.C. or Creature, but I'm willing to give both a chance to respond (Creature more-so as my issue with him seems to just be

how he plays

). Moogin needs to contribute way more than they have so far, so not disagreeable to putting some pressure there either.

[Aubrey]

you ppl scared to cast a vote are going to annoy me real quickly.

[Aubrey]

Kid can be a town lean for now.

[Creature]

hapahauli isn't showing his potential.

[MooginSoosy]

Hi, sorry, I know I said I was going to post more and then I disappeared. Last night and this morning got really busy so I didnt have time to participate. I'm free all weekend so I'll be on way more.

I think OoO and rels are town. I'm leaning towards creature being town as well.

I know it's scummy to not post or post sporadically, but I'm here now and I'll be here all weekend

[Aubrey]

Moogin! Hi again.

Vote?

[MooginSoosy]

Hello!! Let me look through again and see who's on my radar

[Aubrey]

Vote them if they are on your radar.

[Aubrey]

Otherwise engage with them.

They may have forgotten you.

[MooginSoosy]

VOTE: doomefeathers

I don't see their posts being helpful to town in any way. I dont see their votes being helpful in any way. Why bother putting your vote on fitz when they're going to be vla until Tuesday?? I still dislike their post about strategy in the night, it seems like a scum trying to be town and give the town this brilliant solution to the night phases

[Kop]

Actually. Kop why did you single out Doom for voting Fitz and not Creature when they both said Fitz was town to them?

He's must have voted as I was reading through and typing up that quote. Never seen the vote until you've pointed it out.

Creature and doom you need to explain why your pressuring a player you've claimed to be town. It's not sitting right with me because in the time I've been playing mafia I wouldn't be pressuring someone who I think can be town.

[Kop]

Hi, sorry, I know I said I was going to post more and then I disappeared. Last night and this morning got really busy so I didnt have time to participate. I'm free all weekend so I'll be on way more.

I think OoO and rels are town. I'm leaning towards creature being town as well.

I know it's scummy to not post or post sporadically, but I'm here now and I'll be here all weekend

Can you specify why you think they are town? Because if you have read through you'd have at least a few scum reads along with your town. It shouldn't take someone to prod you to find out where you are in terms of who you suspect.

[Kop]

I do agree with your comment about the night actions towards doom though.

[Kop]

hapahauli isn't showing his potential.

What potential are you looking for? Have you participated with hap?

[MooginSoosy]

Can you specify why you think they are town? Because if you have read through you'd have at least a few scum reads along with your town. It shouldn't take someone to prod you to find out where you are in terms of who you suspect.

Actually, I changed my mind on this. I think OoO might be town but I need them to make more concise posts because holy crap that giant wall? Why. Just why. I feel like rels might be piggybacking off OoO and relying on the fact that they know each other on another forum. Creature is a mystery to me still

[Kop]

I don't really like giant walls because scum sometimes use that to scare off potential suspects.

[Aubrey]

I doubt scum will scour a wiki and a number of people's previous games in order to seem relevant. That is where my town lean stems from on Doom currently.

[MooginSoosy]

I doubt scum will scour a wiki and a number of people's previous games in order to seem relevant. That is where my town lean stems from on Doom currently.

What if he's doing that because his last scum game went so poorly? I could be reading too much into it but it seems like he's trying very hard to be super town

[doomfeathers]

I voted havingfitz because I haven't seen anybody do anything that makes me actually scumread them yet. I figured that if that's the case then the person who I know is hard for me to read is more likely to be scum.

Nuts, you're right. He is on V/LA. I must have been tired last night. I'll go through the thread yet another time and see if I can find someone to vote.

@MOD: Could you prod Allomancer, please?

KidAmn, when you post a gif but don't explain the faults in anyone's reasoning, it just comes across as passive-aggressive and unhelpful. Could you maybe explain your objections?

[doomfeathers]

VOTE: hapahauli

Not really scummy. More less not-scummy.

[KidAmn]

I voted havingfitz because I haven't seen anybody do anything that makes me actually scumread them yet. I figured that if that's the case then the person who I know is hard for me to read is more likely to be scum.

Nuts, you're right. He is on V/LA. I must have been tired last night. I'll go through the thread yet another time and see if I can find someone to vote.

@MOD: Could you prod Allomancer, please?

KidAmn, when you post a gif but don't explain the faults in anyone's reasoning, it just comes across as passive-aggressive and unhelpful. Could you maybe explain your objections?

I dislike the use of meta in general (outside of posting style - i.e. I don't like Creature's non-committal and... spartan posting style, but I can look at a decent chunk of his games and see it's consistent) but referencing one's own meta as Aubrey did is one of the most glaringly useless things there is - anyone capable of brief introspection can play to or against their own "meta" given enough ability.

PEdit:

VOTE: hapahauli

Not really scummy. More less not-scummy.

Looks like I get to fire a similar question at you: could you maybe explain this for me?

[Aubrey]

lol, fine Kid. Let's get on with it. Do you think I'm scum and was budding Creature as Kop suggested? If the answer is yes, bring it. If the answer is no, then move on and get over the meta crap.