Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[Dunnstral]

(if he's town)

[aronagrundy]

Vote Count 3.1

PenguinPower (2):

Dunnstral, Prince Lyon

Titus (1):

Cloudkicker

Not Voting (7):

bangthemafia, davesaz, gigabyteTroubadour, Killthestory, nancy, PenguinPower, Titus

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends in (expired on 2017-04-03 16:30:00).

[Titus]

Yeah if PP is town, blocking him is a decent move too. Practically forces us to lynch him or find a roleblocker first which may not exist.

Why gamble on me tracking them?

[PenguinPower]

Because that was a universal call at the end of the day? Fair bet.

[Dunnstral]

Confirms you as town for me...meaning, RB is probably nancy/bang.

Scum knew it would be easy to set me up for a mislynch by having you track me and then blocking me. Only reason they would block me is if you were legit as Tracker.

This line of thinking is really bad. If Titus is rolecop and you're town her team just roleblocks you and she claims to have tracked you to no-one. You should be thinking the opposite: this makes Titus look bad if you're town.

What do you think of this Penguin

[PenguinPower]

I think that you made me skeptical of Titus again.

I originally thought that the RB made Titus the RB, given draft order, which is why I posted that she didn't track me. Then I started thinking my line of reasoning above, which you have now pointed out is flawed.

So...I guess I don't know what to think right now.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

grundy, will a roleblocked PR be shown as visiting their intended target if tracked?

more later but this needs to be cleared up

[Dunnstral]

No, they won't

[gigabyteTroubadour]

was that already cleared up or is it in the rules

[aronagrundy]

grundy, will a roleblocked PR be shown as visiting their intended target if tracked?

more later but this needs to be cleared up

No.

[PenguinPower]

I asked already. Grundy is following NAR, meaning that the block comes before the investigation, meaning I show as visiting no one. Grundy can confirm.

[Dunnstral]

was that already cleared up or is it in the rules

It's my own knowledge of how these things work

[CloudKicker]

imo titus is 95% ++++ scum and i dont really care about anything else, penguin reads town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

gotcha

will think about the ramifications of this when i have a chance but i'm pretty sure nancy is the rb here

titus has to be pp's partner for him to be the rb

[Dunnstral]

titus has to be pp's partner for him to be the rb

If penguin is the rb




he doesn't have to act

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why not roleblock titus...?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also are we massclaiming today?

[Prince Lyon]

Still has to claim a neighbourzied then

[Dunnstral]

also are we massclaiming today?

no lol

[davesaz]

Option 1: Titus & PP both town.

Titus tracks PP, scum block PP. Very smart play by scum IMO.

Option 2: Titus town, PP scum.

Titus tracks PP who goes nowhere. Looks the same as option 1.

Option 3: Titus scum, PP town.

Titus blocks PP but claims to get a track nowhere. PP gets a no result which looks like a RB. Externally looks the same as option 1.

Option 4: Both scum.

Both report results the same way they did. Externally looks the same as option 1.

Essentially we learn nothing new from this.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

right

sorry i'm like multitasking not really thinking straight

lyon if nancy and titus are scum the team is pp/kts/and? cloud...?

[Dunnstral]

Still has to claim a neighbourzied then

you mean if penguin is rb who didn't act? No he doesn't: he doesn't act and the implication is that he was roleblocked

[Dunnstral]

we need to figure out what we're doing with kts vig shot

[Dunnstral]

do we just lynch him

[davesaz]

Can I get some reads on Nancy please?!