OPEN 687: JUNGLE OLIGARCHY (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:38 am

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The way you played had me never changing my mind on you.
I would have probably gone with fitz town all the way though.

GG btw WW asshole. :(
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:39 am

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In post 2198, CommKnight wrote:1v2v1. Means if you kept the list on 2 town + WW, if WW shot either townie, you'd win. You'd also win if we mislynched after the first wolf because it'd be 1v1v1 with the list comprised of a dead townie, an alive townie and the WW. The WW could not kill you which would'be resulted in a mafia win.

@Mod: Is that not correct?


Also if Vedith hardclaimed, I would've seen through you RC. If you tried to CC him that late and avoided claiming? I would've read it as a WW claim.
No because 1v2v1 would be the lynch phase.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:41 am

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sorry for my play this game
really could have done better
also gg werewolves for a win without losing anyone of your team
i seriously did not expect that specific team to be werewolves
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:44 am

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you essentially can't win as werewolves after you lose a teammate.
the faction is extremely weak. picking {group of 3} for the nightkills is almost as strong as having the actual nightkill, barring the fact that you can't holster it, and you have to not only survive but correctly lynch/kill 2 mafia to be able to win the game.
Without having daytalk which weakens your day game, and having less people than the mafia which weakens your daygame relatively even more because you don't control as many votes.

I don't expect to see another werewolf win in this setup before it gets taken down for being imbalanced.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:46 am

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granted the pick 1 of 3 mechanic does make it easier to find mafia than werewolves but I'd say it also weakens werewolves a lot too because if someone townread keeps not getting shot well
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:05 am

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I can confirm that Vedith could not have possibly won by claiming Mafia, even if their claim was trusted.

Someone else would be lynched (if Mafia is lynched, Town lose). If Town is lynched, Werewolves win immediately.

Thus we assume Werewolves are lynched. It goes to 1/2/1 (given that Werewolves kill, which is optimal). If the Werewolf is lynched, there is no death but Town knows that Vedith is Mafia so they are lynched and Town win. If Vedith is lynched, Mafia obviously lose. If Town is lynched, Werewolves also win by killing Vedith.

The only alternative is to No Lynch, in which case it goes to 1/2/2. If a Werewolf is not lynched, they win. Thus, we assume Werewolves are lynched and Vedith gives a list that doesn't include them. If Werewolves kill, Mafia wins (1/1/1 at the start of the day is a Mafia win) so Werewolves No Kill and we are back at 1/2/1, from which it is impossible for Mafia to win.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:07 am

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You're correct: mafia doesn't win by claiming.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:06 pm

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In post 2178, Realeo wrote:Oh one final thing.

THE APOLOGY.

*cough*

So I (publicly?) apologized to kmd for that mean words.

The reason I said that I thought sometimes political incorrectness is required to send a message because I actually mean it. Hiraki is compromising for KMD's and other inactiveness. You don't punish someone compromising their value for your inactiveness.

Is there any way that I can do the same way in a politically correct way? I doubt it, given the fact Hiraki's lynch still go through.
I actually don't remember what you're talking about.

And if vedith had claimed mafia, he wouldn't have been lynched unless a werewolf counterclaimed. I'd have voted havingfitz personally. Even if havingfitz counterclaimed, I had him as werewolf originally and vedith as mafia so I'd probably still be on havngfitz. I think a mafia claim was the only way vedith was surviving another day.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:46 am

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In post 2207, Kmd4390 wrote:
havingfitz wrote:At least I had Realeo and kmd right 
You did? I thought you were scumreading me.
For game I was scumreading you.
In ww pt I knew you weren't mafia.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:36 pm

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Ah, didn't notice this one ended...

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kmd (town), Flubbernugget (town), Realeo (town), Dunnstral (mafia), Hellfire Missile (wolf)

Incorrect reads
Theta Alpine (town but read as weak scum), Hiraki (town but read as weak scum), Gamma Emerald (wolf, read as town)

I wonder what would have happened if my Hellfire Missile and Dunnstral reads had led to lynches? :shifty:
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:13 pm

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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:31 am

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