Open 694: Friends and Enemies (Game Over!)

[havingfitz]

MathBlade being stupid isn't AI

Is he always stupid?

Lazy excuse pardoned shade attempts seems AI to me.

[jjh927]

I would like everyone to rank Flub, Fitz, Egg and Game in order of lynching preference. My preference rn is Flub, Fitz, Egg, Game.

[wavemode]

Game, Game, Game, Flub

I'm not voting the other two, certainly not today.

[Flubbernugget]

Since when has lazy been scum

[havingfitz]

I would like everyone to rank Flub, Fitz, Egg and Game in order of lynching preference. My preference rn is Flub, Fitz, Egg, Game.

I've given my reads. Why are you ignoring the 3 largest wagons atm?

[havingfitz]

Since when has lazy been scum

When I see the suspicions Math has brought towards me (and now wave) it looks like he is just throwing shit out there at everyone and hoping something will stick. His recent push that I must be scum because I used a qualify (probably) I never used...then to divert that misrep/mistake/fatigue-induced oversight to wave when it doesn't even apply to him in the first place.

I do not see town making suspicions up. I think more often than not if town goes to the trouble to build a case on someone they suspect they are more attentive to what they are pushing. Math hasn't done that.

I consider that lazy. And in combo with, and primarily for, the misreps and the out of context or confbiased meta...I suspect him.

[GameNBurger]

Thoughts on sesq ISO:

So they first vote sunchilds day 1 and then suddenly they hard town read them and go after wavemode and I'm not sure I see where sesq even made the switch

Aside from that day 1 sesq is participating much more than I've seen previously

And not the useless kind of play either, gamesolving

I believe pansyfooting is the word she uses and she's definitely not doing it

Sesq seems to have a pretty consistent scumread on me and wave,and then a revolving door for the third scum slot that's ranged from flubber raya havingfitz mathblade Titus and I think others but I'm on mobile so I valentine written them down as I went

wrong, havent consistently scumread wave at all

Well you sure as hell have voted him a lot

Look I get you like to play close to the belt but you really can't blame people for being forced to fill in the gaps because of it

[GameNBurger]

My lynching preference of thise four by the way is fits flub egg and me but that's only answereing of those four

Gonna get around to those iso's later

[Sesq]

Game, Flub, Fitz, Egg

[MathBlade]

Okay so I gave math a good read

I'm not really feeling it here honestly

They have reasons I disagree with for their reads but they ultimately have consistent reads, although I'm curious to hear more about his flubber scumread as to me it came out of nowhere

Math just feels like disagreeable town that's tunnels and maybe a bit confused

Which is not good town

But they seem genuine

On to the next

Flubber's post feel like "I don't wanna but I gotta"

It doesn't feel "natural"

Compared to prior games with flubber it is just off:

[GameNBurger]

Okay so going thru wavemodes ISO I'm less inclined to think they're disruptive scum

Scum could have easily copped out and wheeled others but instead pushes consistent wagons that fail to get steam

I'm feeling town and for once I feel like his frustration posts are genuine

[GameNBurger]

Alright as for havingfitz

One thing I'm seeing that I haven't noticed is how absent he is for day 2 although that could be chalked up to life I guess

I see a small chance that fits could be low flying scum that takes control right before lylo to ensure it happens

Although I don't lean towards it because he really starts posting a lot more because people jumped on him super fast so most of his early day 3 posts were defense

Fitz re reads are... interesting

From what I get it's based on a combination of mason hunting (or non mason hunting) then picking the people who were on Day 1 lynch, with sesq still at the bottom of his list, he does concede a degree of unconfidence even if it is a small one

If fitz stopped being useful and went back to lurker mode after he was at l-1 I would have changed my mind on him but he's kind of made a 180 as far as involvement goes

Other than that nothing I haven't commented on before

[GameNBurger]

Flubber has put in the same amount of effort as my last game

I misread him in that game and he was town

I have a feeling he's town again

Also I thought lazy was always scum, or atleast it's the scum strategy with the most excuses

[GameNBurger]

UNVOTE:

Let me dig into jjh and probably mathblade again as I slept on it and theres something that bothered me about mathblade that used to bother me about wavemode and I hated that slot when transcend was on it so maybe it's best to just stick with my guy there

Also I guess I should look into what bombcat has been up to

[GameNBurger]

Then what, he's a null slot who's never going to do anything pro-town?

This now much more fitting quote is why I'm looking back at bombcat To be specific but back to jjh

[GameNBurger]

Jjh's activity steeply drops off every day more than the previous

I believe jjhs reads as actual reads until out of nowhere he starts the day with a havingfitz vote

I don't have much to say about day 1 and 2 other than that he pushed both mislynches and seems awfully not taken aback by both but that's just really differs from player to player imo

It's his third day that irks me

Espescially his last post that seems like something that's constructive for town do but really just isnoutsourcing his decision who to vote best to the town which is an idiotic move if he's actually town

Currently I wouldn't mind voting this I think

Also talked a lot with transcend but never hard pushed them

So if I'm feeling the transcend slot to be scum I could see jjh being in their team honestly

[GameNBurger]

I really don't know how to feel about bombcat

I get the sense that the current idea of being a good mafia player on this site is to make your town play so incomprehensible that you can still play towards your wincon but when you're scum people will townread you for doing unhelpful things

Seriously I don't know how to feel about bombcat

It's almost like so obvtown there's just soemthing itching at me that he's scum but it'd be so stupid if he was scum

Idk

[GameNBurger]

Alright so I think I've made up my mind as to who I want to vote today

I'm curious more to vote jjh so if anyone would like to wagon up on jjh that would be great

Otherwise I'm willing to compromise on mathblade and not really anyone else unless someone basically scum claims mostly because I'm tired of compromising near the deadline only to land on a mislynch

VOTE: jjh

I'll love to math if it becomes clear than this is not happening

The other lunches are stupid

And for those curious I'm more leaning on scum for bombcat

[GameNBurger]

I take it no one wants to play the game until literally 48 hours before the deadline as per fucking usual

[MathBlade]

I want to play I have been working 14 hour days and today was easy with 6 hours and tomorrow is DnD.

Jjh is not an option.

I have said my three scumreads. I won't lynch outside of them.

[MathBlade]

Final Vote Count

Vedith

(7): jjh927, ConnorJC, havingfitz, Flubbernugget, Titus, GameNBurger, Transcend

Sesq

(2): wavemode, Egg

Transcend

(1): bombcat

jjh927

(1): Vedith

bombcat

(1): Raya36

Egg

(1): Sesq

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-07-22 22:37:25)

And if Fitz was doing that he'd look at Flubber. Oh wait Flubber is his buddy and I am calling him scum. That is why the townread dissapated. Because I scumread Fitz.

Look at the Fitz wagon today and how it dissapated despite people scumreading him.

[MathBlade]

So Fitz is using the reasoning of "day one" rather than actually exploring that wagon intently.

[MathBlade]

Official Vote Count

Sesq

(2): Egg, wavemode

wavemode

(2): Flubbernugget, GameNBurger

havingfitz

(2): bombcat, MathBlade

MathBlade

(1): havingfitz

Flubbernugget

(1): jjh927

Not Voting

(1): Sesq

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-08-22 01:31:04)

Guys come on 15 hours. Join any of the wagons on wave, fitz, or flubber.

[MathBlade]

1 day 15 hours* EBWOP

[jjh927]

Let's have the Fitz wagon.

The 4 people I asked people to list are the only 4 people I will ever lynch.

VOTE: Havingfitz