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Post Post #1625  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:15 pm

Sheep do you have another completed town game besides the polygamist and the newbie?

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Post Post #1626  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:16 pm

VC 2.10

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch


sheepsaysmeep (4) [L-2] - Impede, momo, Mathdino, Kop
momo (2) - sheepsaysmeep, UnabombaH
UnabombaH (2) - Srceenplay, havingfitz

Not voting - Gamma Emerald, Hawk

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-01-23 20:00:00)

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Post Post #1627  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:56 pm

In post 1607, sheepsaysmeep wrote:yeah that meta is all old and sour as hell

In post 1608, sheepsaysmeep wrote:have fun i guess


You better run, you better do what you can
Don't want to see no blood, don't be a macho man
You want to be tough, better do what you can
So lynch it, but you want to be bad
Just lynch it, lynch it, lynch it, lynch it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
Just lynch it, lynch it
Just lynch it, lynch it
Town: 5-1 | Scum: 0-1
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Post Post #1628  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:59 pm

Spoiler:
In post 213, sheepsaysmeep wrote:careful of oot pls :D
from skimming the first two pages, jay's talking abt motivation seems genuine enough for locktown
una also seems rlly relaxed
those two are in my townblock
if srs is pretty opportunistic

In post 219, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 111, JaydragonKing wrote:After stumbling my first game, I learned I like the way I play now, and it will eventually adapt, but that's for future me to deal with. What I don't get is the fact your already pushing me out as a liability, Dino. If you want to discredit me in the game, do it when I actually have something really tangible to push against.

Your also even more pushy then before, too. Thinking about what kop said, with you trying so early and yard to get out reads, I'm inclined to believe his statement until further evidence is given.

this moves jay from town to a scumlean
the first part is an overreaction
the second is a hard omgus/grasping for reasoning kind of

In post 229, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i would hide behind impede
atm i look like town: mathd
im somewhat liking assemble and a50
nullscum: jay/impede
scum: red

In post 315, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i like having fitz

In post 491, sheepsaysmeep wrote:yo
tr'ing a50

In post 887, sheepsaysmeep wrote:screen is town at first glance

In post 942, sheepsaysmeep wrote:screen catches up like i do as town
he also has quite a few original thoughts
tr'ing him

i dont fall under good tone/gut readers tho


These are all of Sheep's townread giving out posts I think

Most of his townreads he gives out in response to what seems like a single post or spot where they did something but no indication of what he thought was towny about it. I find this is a very safe way as scum to talk about townreading players without seeming scummy on the surface. Looks worse if it becomes habit and is inspected later.

In post 223, sheepsaysmeep wrote:jay puts in no effort to try to solve anything, probably scum content with the wagons
i'd hop on red from where i am
bookmark

In post 256, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: jay

In post 290, sheepsaysmeep wrote:k
my vote on jay was to put on some pressure, what i got was a bad reaction followed by a strong omgus and a misrep

In post 293, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 285, Creature wrote:Does anyone have any experiences with RedFlavor? Is he usually a lurker?

i havent played with him but looking at him he's incredibly inactive, it's more of inactivity than lurking i think

In post 338, sheepsaysmeep wrote: is more scumclaim than vi

In post 556, sheepsaysmeep wrote:somene calling himself obvtown pings me

In post 557, sheepsaysmeep wrote:also somewhat of an overreaction

In post 560, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 558, momo wrote:
In post 556, sheepsaysmeep wrote:somene calling himself obvtown pings me

I think everyone with a town role pm thinks that they are obv!town, especially if they are trying and frustrated that some people can't see it
nope, although that is how it is for some ppl ive played with i guess
In post 559, momo wrote:
In post 557, sheepsaysmeep wrote:also somewhat of an overreaction

I'm not over reacting, I'm picking apart a scummy post by one of my scum reads

still is overreacty

In post 574, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 573, JaydragonKing wrote:But at this point I'm honestly taking into account that Assemble is going to be replaced at the beginning of day 2 or the twilight of day 1. Hanging him doesn't seem like the best bet to me

this doesnt matter; we like his lynch because he is scummy


These are all of his D1 scumread with explanations before he addresses creature more. He spends most of his time between Red, Jay, and a little bit on Assemble. In hindsight we know Jay was a mislynch but a lot of us were there. The lack of content and explanation is damning but the reads themselves not so much as we were all kinda thinking that way here. Red I'm not sure I follow the progression but I'll let other people determine what they think. Assemble feels opportunistic regardless of that slot flip. He had posted twice and one post was super slimy but that's about it. Its really bad if The slot is town and only slightly less bad if it's scum, since well... it's obvious but doesn't need to be addressed as such.


In post 595, sheepsaysmeep wrote: helps me see scum!creature


This caught my eye. Not sure why he thought that was relevant to the creature case.... I don't see it as much.

In post 667, sheepsaysmeep wrote:impede, is it a coincidence that math puts you in a scumpartner pool with creature and you start looking at him and voting him?
the sequence is funky to me


This is some next level shading if Sheep is scum with creature and is worried creature is gonna flip. Also buddying math.

In post 673, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: impede
bad reaction
more pressure


This feels like an odd progression and just a reason to vote impede with little substance. Doesn't state wht the reaction is bad.

In post 681, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 676, Impede wrote:Yeah cause Scum!Impede has no idea that OMGUS is a scumtell. Zzz.

wifom
you dont have any scum meta for us either i think


This feels reachy/begging the question. Like provide your scum meta so we know you don't OMGUS as scum... When really?? I mean... idk that seems like a weak argument....


In post 685, sheepsaysmeep wrote: is scummy in an awkward way


In post 691, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 689, Hawk wrote:
In post 683, momo wrote:Impede, Impede, Impede....you have disappointed me greatly....

I townread you! But math's case is just to good.

Furthermore, your vote on Creature...see that looks like last ditch bussing...here's the thing, you can't bus after you are scum read for associations....That vote switch, the whole change under pressure to someone you are suspected to be buddies with, it gave you away....A tip for your next game, bus well early game...I'm not saying you won't be caught, it just won't be like this....

UNVOTE: Creature
VOTE: Impede

Even though I read both as scum, Impede lynch gives us the most information...we think we are on to something but he was once in our town bloc....Impede flipping red gives us a lot...if he flips green, we still have creature and redflavor


You mean this sheep? yeah I don't like that part.

i saw the first two lines of this post and said i thought momo was scummy
now i read that part and i agree that it's scummy for impede and better for momo


This is super interesting because I still don't understand how he flipped on his momo read here... Also Momo as a side note has an interesting statement that I bolded that still bugs me. Creature flipped scum so that's hella awkward.


In post 696, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im fine with creature or impede today


Remember when I pointed that next level shading.

In post 738, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 735, momo wrote:Impede flipping red practically confirms Creature as scum

no


Breaking that implication because if Impede gets lynched Sheep wants it to refer back to his previous statement to clear Creature, while if creature gets lynched he wants it to imply that Impede is scum.

Basically Im seeing Sheep subtly making a chase for if Impede = Scum then Creature = town

But if Creature = scum then Impede = town.

Because of his post in


Here's everything in sheep's ISO that resembles a town or scumread and reasoning as well as a few things that stand out too me.

I'm okay with a sheep lynch.

VOTE: Sheep

I'll do his d2 if people want it but I gotta get my kids now.

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Post Post #1629  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:59 pm

"lynch it" doesn't rhyme with "defeated"

6/10

Edit: oh shit a rela post gimme a second

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Post Post #1630  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:00 pm

Oh he's back yo L-1 now btw. We should let Gamma catchup so no one hammer until then please.

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Post Post #1631  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:01 pm

In post 1629, Mathdino wrote:6/10

Your mafia gameplay is 6/10 ho
Town: 5-1 | Scum: 0-1
Permanently on a mental V/LA

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Post Post #1632  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:06 pm

Honestly I think Ghost has given us all the opinions/analysis we need.

I only really want Gamma to consent to the lynch. (in a not-saying-no kind of way)

Plus it'll be easier to catch up at night, and scum is unlikely to shoot a replacement even if the slot is obvtown.

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Post Post #1633  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:07 pm

sheep is at L-1

oh and impede.....those original comebacks...just, *shook* lol

Oh btw if any of y'all hammer, I won;t think any worse of you
Transcend-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
KidAmn-Momo is a troll, which is completely NAI
YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME--¯\_(ツ)_/¯ OH WELL

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Post Post #1634  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:09 pm

Still say it’s the wrong lynch.

VOTE: sheep
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Post Post #1635  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:09 pm

ffs

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Post Post #1636  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:10 pm

gamma could've had an inno on him, that's why i wanted to wait

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Post Post #1637  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:10 pm

Don’t even.
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Post Post #1638  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:11 pm

IF YOU ARE A HIDER, HERE IS YOUR TARGET (as agreed upon by your predecessor):

Gamma: Hides behind Una
fitz: Hides behind Kop

glhf

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Post Post #1639  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:12 pm

In post 1637, Srceenplay wrote:Don’t even.

dude i definitely alluded to that idea multiple times

ghost never went after sheep and redflavor hypoclaimed sheep as his target

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Post Post #1640  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:13 pm

In post 1639, Mathdino wrote:
In post 1637, Srceenplay wrote:Don’t even.

dude i definitely alluded to that idea multiple times

ghost never went after sheep and redflavor hypoclaimed sheep as his target

You didn’t care about trusting that thought earlier.
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Post Post #1641  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:13 pm

In post 1634, Srceenplay wrote:Still say it’s the wrong lynch.

VOTE: sheep


Then why vote? Ffs

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Post Post #1642  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:14 pm

We need to move the day on.
We are stuck in a rut nothing is changing.
So let’s make change happen.
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Post Post #1643  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:15 pm

In post 1640, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1639, Mathdino wrote:
In post 1637, Srceenplay wrote:Don’t even.

dude i definitely alluded to that idea multiple times

ghost never went after sheep and redflavor hypoclaimed sheep as his target

You didn’t care about trusting that thought earlier.


I do feel the same Screen if Math was that worried about it wouldn't he unvote after I put him back to l-1??

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Post Post #1644  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:18 pm

If math was worried about it they wouldn’t have waffled on una. Saying the have a chance to be either scum or sk. But hey let’s vote sheep, the person who I think might be cleared from someone.

Sounds to me like they were trying to force a PR claim.
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Post Post #1645  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:18 pm

I was hoping Gamma would be the hammer tbh. No one else who wasn't voting sheep showed much indication they were planning on hammering.

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Post Post #1646  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:19 pm

Ehh
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Post Post #1647  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:19 pm

Furthermore, Gamma has no reason to claim his innocent without L-1 and intent to hammer.

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Post Post #1648  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:21 pm

In post 1644, Srceenplay wrote:If math was worried about it they wouldn’t have waffled on una. Saying the have a chance to be either scum or sk. But hey let’s vote sheep, the person who I think might be cleared from someone.

Sounds to me like they were trying to force a PR claim.

1. I no longer agree with a Una lynch. Kop was actually my alternative, as he was Ghost's main target. But sheep was really the obvious lynch IF AND ONLY IF there was no innocent.

2. You think I orchestrated this whole thing just to get Ghost to claim PR?

Dude couple things
A. If I legitimately thought Ghost was probably PR, I'd just shut up and shoot her (she's also obvtown so it's not like that's a bad shot).

B. I didn't totally think Ghost had an innocent on sheep. I thought there might be a very small chance she did, and there wasn't really indication in her ISO either way. She didn't seem interested in lynching OR clearing sheep. Red's hypoclaim left it in question.

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Post Post #1649  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:25 pm

yo
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open 713 is in signups
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