Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

[UnaBombaH]

Off to floorball, will write a little more within ~5hours.

[Mathdino]

Don't ask me to explain how I play. I either get results, or I don't, but trying to explain why I've done this would take everything away from my actions.
I think we have gotten a lot out of it, like it or not.

I don't think you've had a single correct, hit-the-nail-on-the-head, justified read since the start of the game.

All it's done is generate chaos and leave your voice out of the lynch discussion, making it harder for us to make decisions.

There's a helpful way to suspect me and there's an unhelpful way. Surprise surprise, the helpful way is to reasonably state your case, ask me legitimate questions (showing you actually read), and then give your reasons and thought process.

As it turns out, the unhelpful way is to be super fucking cryptic all the time and interject conversations with WELL I FEEL LIKE MATH MIGHT STILL BE SCUM. Yeah, and Bernie Sanders can still win, guys.

Whatever playstyle you're adhering to right now is turning the town against you.

[Hawk]

Okay so now that Una is off and I won't be competing with you two cause I'm at work I can talk the Sheep dive if you want. Link me the games I don't know where they are if they got posted prior.

[yessiree]

VC 2.9

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

sheepsaysmeep (4) [L-2] -

Impede, momo, Hawk, Mathdino

UnabombaH (2) -

Srceenplay, havingfitz

momo (1) -

sheepsaysmeep

Not voting

- Gamma Emerald, Kop, UnabombaH

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-01-23 20:00:00)

[Mathdino]

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Okay so now that Una is off and I won't be competing with you two cause I'm at work I can talk the Sheep dive if you want. Link me the games I don't know where they are if they got posted prior.

This guy did all the work for us. I would never ask someone to go through pages of an ISO full of shitposting.

He backed up his statements with post links. All we need to do is compare the behaviour that guy outlined to sheep's ISO this game.

Note that he did the metadive in good faith, as he was town, and did it without the express purpose of coming up with a particular result, BUT came to the wrong result because sheep's play was different that game. The setup was whack so we all played different.

[Srceenplay]

Did math say L-1? I forgot.

[Mathdino]

Did math say L-1? I forgot.

I did not, but I'm also not paying tons of attention to the votes (enough to make sure I don't hammer), and I wouldn't really miss him if he got quickhammered.

It would be good if we could get intent so we can get a claim and so the 4 non-voters can claim a potential innocent on him.

[sheepsaysmeep]

yeah that meta is all old and sour as hell

[sheepsaysmeep]

have fun i guess

[havingfitz]

sheep is L-2.

@ mod...Kop unvoted in post 1460.

Oops. Fixed

[Hawk]

Okay. UNVOTE: Not that I expect a quick hammer but I didn't realize he was at L-1. For all intents and purposes my vote is still here but I want to read this Metadive and compare it. I'll be back with my findings hopefully within the hour. Taking Lunch and Gotta pick up my kids from school so this gives me something to do while I eat.

But please someone post intent to hammer so we can get a claim from sheep.

Pedit: if the vote count is really off I'll revote here shortly.

[Mathdino]

If anyone here thinks Una should be lynched, please write up a case.

[Hawk]

yeah that meta is all old and sour as hell

This is scummy btw. Without even reading the dive I think this is scummy. Like why even post this unless you believe your meta will shine negatively on you this game.

[sheepsaysmeep]

it might and that would be bad because it's incredibly unreliable
like i have no idea what the fuck my meta looked like back then so i dont know what it says about me here
and town has very clear motivation to say that here too

[Hawk]

Okay im still reading but answer me this then sheep. Have you forcibly changed your meta as town because of some reason? be introspective here.

[sheepsaysmeep]

i just play much differently in general i didnt force anything
it just changed from playing a lot i guess

[Hawk]

I only ask because if you consistently play to town wincons as town then you should never be afraid of a Metadive. So unless you had a shift from being lynch bait or overall had something you needed to clean up about your town play or slop down your town play if you get shot early a lot then you don't have anything to worry about...

[sheepsaysmeep]

as town i should be afraid of being lynched, so i should be afraid of smth that just doesnt work at all and is basically a case against me

[sheepsaysmeep]

my play just changed overtime
i was never lynchbait but i used to be much worse at the game

[Kop]

VOTE: Sheep

[Hawk]

as town i should be afraid of being lynched, so i should be afraid of smth that just doesnt work at all and is basically a case against me

Town shouldn't be afraid to be lynched. If you get lynched you were playing poorly, or there was a dissonance within the town. Very rarely will a decently playing town player get lynched without a few scum on their wagon.

So from Sky in the other game Big tells between scum!sheep versus town!sheep is that Scum sheep gives more townread, less explanations of his own reads, and less readslists.

Would you agree Math? I'm gonna do a write-up of Sheep soon.

[sheepsaysmeep]

the explanations part is untrue
readlists i do if i want to put in the effort that's not alignment indicative either

i would strongly agree that townreads is a tell for me

[Mathdino]

That seems accurate.

Edit: It would be good if we could get your claim out of the way, sheep. It seems highly unlikely you're gonna get NK'd, so you claiming VT doesn't really hurt us.

[sheepsaysmeep]

im vt

[Mathdino]

If Gamma thinks we should lynch Kop instead, I'll sheep that.

Otherwise I think this is our lynch.