Open 710: MKUltra - Foreign Spies Win!

[GuyInFreezer]

I have a very reaching tinfoil theory of Sky/Mikan blueteam.
How far should I speculate this?

I'd be very interested in hearing about this theory.

I mean I explained that few posts below that post already.

[GuyInFreezer]

Gif, of you think something you want to speculate about you have to explain your reasonning not drop one liners that doesn't say anyyhing to test the water?

If you're talking about #797, it's already explained literally few posts below, and this is like my fifth time saying the same thing.
Who's testing the water now?

[springlullaby]

Gif, i have a problem with your reasons of voting and suspicions that seem entirely based on outguessing the NK's.

So far, you seem to be suspecting:
A) Me because my speculation about why Kop died
B) Sky and Mikan, because some stuff about the Tatl and Tael kill

Do you have any other read beside that because that's just not how town does it.

[GuyInFreezer]

A) Me because my speculation about why Kop died

You do realize that it's based on how the spec was done, not based on the fact that the spec was done, right?

I already explained this once, so I think I can count this as a misrep.

[GuyInFreezer]

Plus I townread sesq and ico, and I don't think how skitter acted today is redscum sooooo

[springlullaby]

Please explain how my speculation was more "descriptive " (IIrc) than your speculation.

[skitter30]

I have a very reaching tinfoil theory of Sky/Mikan blueteam.
How far should I speculate this?

I'd be very interested in hearing about this theory.

I mean I explained that few posts below that post already.

You mean in 579? So it's basically that you think both of them were involved in killing RC? I think that's kinda flimsy reasoning to put them in a team together since a lot of people (ie not just them) could have had motive to kill him, especially since it wasn't that hard to figure out that he was the doc (sky, you, and me at the very least figured that out; possibly others too who didn't mention it).

Like I could just as easily argue that you didn't want to deal with RC wanting to lynch you day2 if he had lived so you decided to pre-emptively kill him. I wouldn't try to build an ice mafia team around you based on who else may have wanted to kill him though cuz I think the pool of such people is too big and too ill-defined.

Plus I townread sesq and ico, and I don't think how skitter acted today is redscum sooooo

Why don't you think I'm redscum?

[GuyInFreezer]

Please explain how my speculation was more "descriptive " (IIrc) than your speculation.

Not relatively descriptive.
Just too descriptive.

[GuyInFreezer]

Why don't you think I'm redscum?

You're the one who reminded me about lynching redscum

[springlullaby]

Please explain how my speculation was more "descriptive " (IIrc) than your speculation.

Not relatively descriptive.
Just too descriptive.

Can you elaborate on why you think my speculation is too descriptive then.

What shocks you in my reviewing Kop's posts (to mind 8 posts total), and coming to the conclusion that since there isn't much content there and the slot is lurkish ( the mention that they aren't putting in the effort in one post) a reasonable hypothesis is that scum went for that slot to try and fish for doc. Especially given the setup, I don't see how thinking that scum would try to target the doc to be too descriptive.

I'm quite bothered by the fact that the only reason you find me scummy is some hypothesis I did regarding the NK, which I didn't even put emphasis on, but then come up which I find far reaching without blinking an eyelid. It's dissonant.

[springlullaby]

Alisae, you are not exempt from answering questions I aimed at you.

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm quite bothered by the fact that the only reason you find me scummy is some hypothesis I did regarding the NK, which I didn't even put emphasis on, but then come up which I find far reaching without blinking an eyelid. It's dissonant.

No that was my reason to start seeing you as redscum.

If you were towning up I would be unvoting you; I'm not THAT stuck-up, you see.

[GuyInFreezer]

(That, and PoE. Look closely on my "not-red-scum list," and see the remaining players list)

[Sky_Paladin]

Frankly I am baffled there hasn't been a hammer yet. Both Alisae and Spring are at L-1 and there's about 70 hours left in the phase.

Surely if Spring was red, blue would have hammered them by now, even more so if Alisae is blue as GiF suggests. I'm voting Alisae alongside what I believe to be the two blue scum (Skitter/Icon) who have no reason to not hammer Spring, unless they believe in red!Alisae so they don't need to contend with her cross-hitting in the upcoming night.

But of the players voting Spring -
Sesq is replacing out.
Alisae is forced to vote not-me-over-me (over her preferred lynch of Icon I believe)
GiF is GiF.

Any of the players voting Alisae (myself included) could trivially hammer Spring and nobody would care. Spring at least should have counter-hammered to save herself IMO.

So why hasn't any of these things happened?

@GiF - if Spring is red, why haven't blue hammered?
@Spring - Are you so confident in town!Alisae that you won't hammer to save yourself?
@Icon/Skitter - if Alisae is red, why haven't blue cross-hammered?

[GuyInFreezer]

@GiF - if Spring is red, why haven't blue hammered?

Blue absolutely will not hammer this dayphase.

[GuyInFreezer]

By hammer, I mean like scumhammer.

[Viomi]

VOTE COUNT

springlullaby (L-1)

(3) - Sesq, GuyInFreezer, Alisae

Alisae (L-1)

(3) - Iconeum, skitter30, Sky_Paladin

Sesq

(1) - springlullaby

Not Voting:

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Tick tock...

3 days, 12 hours, 37 minutes

Countdown has been paused while I replace Sesq.

[springlullaby]

I didn't realise all votes were accounted for.

VOTE: Alisae

Better than me because I'm 100% town.

[GuyInFreezer]

lolscum

[Alisae]

Whatever I was Fire
Last two scum are in GiF, Spring, Icon.

[Alisae]

Like I really didn't want to replace into a scum slot in multiball but whatever

[GuyInFreezer]

Man I was secretly hoping that you were town
Because of what TD pulled after repping out

[skitter30]

Sky's post had just convinced me that you were actually bluescum cuz there wasn't a hammer, but I guess that's cuz like no one realized you were at L-1.

(I was in middle of writing a post about how I came to that conclusion and I was going to unvote but I kinda fell asleep before I posted it, so I guess that's a good thing).

Tbf it wasn't really you; it was mostly math, and mostly math's like first three posts, but you didn't do anything to make me think you were town like anywhere. Although I didn't know *which* scum you were, from my POV it wasn't the kind of read I was ever going to unsee or get talked out of; it was more a matter of waiting until enough people came to the same conclusion.

And yeah that hammer was *incredibly* scummy.

I think scum is:

Spring, gif, sky, icon, sesq, in that order.

[Alisae]

idc just lynch icon please ty

[springlullaby]

I'm not scum. Whatever.