Open 717: C9++ [GAME OVER:TOWN WINS]

[Hoopla]

This game is a wreck. How are we even supposed to continue from here.

We ignore pages 1-10 and focus on shamelessly creating competing bandwagons. It's the purest and most noble path forward.

[Ok Nyeo]

Can someone post VC?

[UnaBombaH]

The Gamma-"wagon" feels weird, and not the least because I started it with an RVS-vote.

For starters, you're second on the wagon homie.

And if it feels "weird", why are you still on there now? As far as I'm concerned, this is still an unripe wagon in its infancy -- unable to deemed weird or appropriate because it's so new. Everything in this game is. Despite being on page 11, we've barely just escaped the RVS imo.

Well, I meant that the wagon started to take shape because of my vote - I wasn't trying to take/avoid credit for it, just put my thoughts out there for others to ponder too. Everytime I make an observation like that, I try make it a point for everyone.

The reason it felt "weird" was because of how people started to sort of...drop in, without anything significant happenings one way or another.
Yet again, I wanted to point that out just to make sure everyone takes notice of the order and reasoning people have for joining.
A plus side would've been to see someone "scared" off the wagon after I said it..

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Myloninja13(4)

~ Gamma Emerald(24), LaserGuy(7), Kop(2), Judge Joseph Dredd(4)

Gamma Emerald(3)

~ Hoopla(8), UnaBombaH(4), Sesq(7)

Kop(2)

~ Fredrick A Campbell(9), Pinturicchio(11)

Judge Joseph Dredd(2)

~ UglyDuck(9), Myloninja13(5)

UglyDuck(1)

~ Ok Nyeo(26)

Ok Nyeo(1)

~ Generic Hydra(70)

[Iconeum]

Back on monday

[Generic Hydra]

Actually, scum would want a toxic player around. It creates a smokescreen for them to hide behind. Those who wanted me to stay are scum. Those who wanted me out/to change my playstyle are town.
Una and Nyeo are prime examples.
-Kor

Scum could also do that to get towncred. I saw it a lot of times.

Two things:
1. Your join date is from 7 days ago; are you an alt or something? Because if you're new, where have you seen scum doing that?
2. Could you link me an example of scum doing that? Because I've never seen something like that.

We’re two different players that go to the same school and decided to do a hydra, kor has more experience than I do but that certainly doesn’t mean I’m a “noob” I also played on a different website so the phase times are different to me. Either way I trust my teammate when he does this kinda crazy stuff cause I’m a much more passive poster.
-n33dl3

[TheGoldenParadox]

Votecount 1.6

Myloninja13(4)

~ Gamma Emerald(24), LaserGuy(7), Kop(2), Judge Joseph Dredd(4)

Gamma Emerald(3)

~ Hoopla(8), UnaBombaH(4), Sesq(7)

Kop(2)

~ Fredrick A Campbell(10), Pinturicchio(11)

Judge Joseph Dredd(2)

~ UglyDuck(9), Myloninja13(5)

UglyDuck(1)

~ Ok Nyeo(26)

Ok Nyeo(1)

~ Generic Hydra(71)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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[TheGoldenParadox]

Back on monday

-- May I ask whose alt/main this is?

[Kop]

Why do you think that the value of doing this so obviously outweighs the cost of outing two Town PRs on D1?

Masons have no powers. Just like IC. It is good to have 3 confirmed town on D1 already + narrows down pool for cop/rolebrock/vig

if we have 3 town + 10 unknown and we mislynch and have 2 town flips from the night one from mafia and one from vig or sk then we have 3 town and 7 unknown on d2 and if there's a cop then we have 4 town and 6 unknown with 3 or 4 of them guaranteed to be scum so we lynch in those

If the masons claim and don't get counter claimed, we have 3 confirmed town going into night one, but don't you think scum would shoot one of the confirms and if we have a SK they might take out the other, which then leaves us 1 town and 9 unknown in day two? And if there is no SK, that would be 2 town 8 unknowns. Scum will not want any possible confirmed townies in the game and will no doubt try to keep the unknowns higher than confirmed so that they have enough to manoeuvre about in.

Lynch Nyeo. They've slipped. There's no way that

wasn't

a slip.
-Kor

I don't see that as a slip. I read it, I don't see any slip in what they said.

Can you point out the post where I scumslipped?

-- *thinking*

Tbh, I have suspicion on you for RVSing us.
-Kor (to both)

Yeah I realized it

[trying to lynch you]

will be useless anyways since you are getting the nightkill.

Where's the town motivation in lynching a confirmed town member?
I'll save you the effort, there is none.
Me and n33dl3 both whole-heartedly agreed that is most certainly a scumslip. You said you had 10-ish games, therefore, it's not a noobslip, it's you scumslipped.
Bolded is the reference of what "it" was.

You are a confirmed town member, but if your going to be no use then you may as well be lynched because all that will happen is, people will look to you to lead the town because you are a confirmed townie, people will trust your judgement because you aren't scum possibly manipulating the game. But from reading your posts early game, you appeared to me as just trolly and spammy, no use to us. I can't answer for Neyo, but that's probably one of the reasons they would want you out of the game.

Hey, sorry, homework and going out got in the way.

Generic Hydra lol. This is going to be fun.

For now I'll VOTE: Judge Joseph Dredd because I'm not sure how a masons claim would help town in really any way aside from eliminating a few smaller options in the set-up.

VOTE: Myloninja13

Are you seriously scum reading him for that?!

is this question to insinuate that you don't think he could be pushing a mason claim as skum?

I don't think scum would be so brazen to come out and ask for virtually a half mass claim.

I just realized Kop is in the game!

I've been in a game with him before, just not sure what it was. Gonna check that later.

For now, I'd like reads from him, just to make sure he doesn't get past D1 without making a commitment on something.

Back on monday

I remember you, but I think it was some time ago. I think.

I have zero reads right now.

[Kop]

Quote 279 shouldn't be there, added by mistake.

[pinturicchio]

Actually, scum would want a toxic player around. It creates a smokescreen for them to hide behind. Those who wanted me to stay are scum. Those who wanted me out/to change my playstyle are town.
Una and Nyeo are prime examples.
-Kor

Scum could also do that to get towncred. I saw it a lot of times.

Two things:
1. Your join date is from 7 days ago; are you an alt or something? Because if you're new, where have you seen scum doing that?
2. Could you link me an example of scum doing that? Because I've never seen something like that.

We’re two different players that go to the same school and decided to do a hydra, kor has more experience than I do but that certainly doesn’t mean I’m a “noob” I also played on a different website so the phase times are different to me. Either way I trust my teammate when he does this kinda crazy stuff cause I’m a much more passive poster.
-n33dl3

I was talking to Nyeo, and I'm still waiting for his answers. The more time he takes to reply, the more I think he's scum

[LaserGuy]

Mostly prod-dodge. Weekends are usually bad for me.

Korina's troll reaction test is funny.

Vote Nyeo

This is looking pretty good right now.

[LaserGuy]

VOTE: Nyeo

Fixing tags

[Gamma Emerald]

you sound the same so i treat you the same

if it means a better response im all for it though

I think sesq is town for their previous post

I'm struggling to have a read on anyone. Care to tell me how you reached that conclusion?

Mostly tone I guess
Nice to see you playing seriously btw

[Gamma Emerald]

This game is a wreck. How are we even supposed to continue from here.

me no like this post, kinda WahMISTy (I just made that up, means "wah man I'm so town")

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry, been busy with work and been no where near a computer. Hate doing this from a phone. Reading back.

Hey, sorry, homework and going out got in the way.

Generic Hydra lol. This is going to be fun.

For now I'll VOTE: Judge Joseph Dredd because I'm not sure how a masons claim would help town in really any way aside from eliminating a few smaller options in the set-up.

VOTE: Myloninja13

Are you seriously scum reading him for that?!

Are you seriously just gonna say that about the game after saying you would read the thread? You jump on a wagon with some momentum in it just because he has a bad scumread? Having bad reads is NAI; jumping on a shit wagon while not giving any content isn't.
VOTE: Kop

Thinking Pin has a good point here
VOTE: Kop

[Gamma Emerald]

Because the test looks for players who want me to replace out. Me being confirmed town actually plays to my favor in it, making it not a gambit. Otherwise, this reaction test is a gambit.

Since my thing apparently got delete (the results), here's the TL;DR
Laser - Town
Hoopla - Townish
Sesq - Scummy
Una - Idfk, it can go both ways
Gamma - Like Una, it can go both ways
Nyeo - Scum
Everyone else + Pin - No Result

I find Nyeo scummy because of the results of said test. Why would town want to keep around a player acting anti-town? They wouldn't. Scum would however, because it gives them a smokescreen basically. Honestly, I forgot who said it, (I think it was Gamma) but they'd lynch the anti-town mayor. The same exact thing applies here.

I'm willing to bet you're scum here as well Duck.
-Kor

I did not say I would lynch the anti-town mayor, at least I don't remember that

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey, sorry, homework and going out got in the way.

Generic Hydra lol. This is going to be fun.

For now I'll VOTE: Judge Joseph Dredd because I'm not sure how a masons claim would help town in really any way aside from eliminating a few smaller options in the set-up.

VOTE: Myloninja13

Are you seriously scum reading him for that?!

No, I'm just a bit suspicious of him because of that. A vote doesn't equal a scum reading.

what does a vote equal then? a town read?

A vote can mean many things, maybe they scumread that player, maybe they want to sort the player and get reactions etc.

But saying "what does a vote equal then? a town read?" makes it look like you are trying to misrepresent the player for saying a vote isnt scumread.

VOTE: uglyduck

And I don't like how you did that.

I missed 266 but yeah UD is being pretty obtuse needlessly

[Gamma Emerald]

Those games are top secret, you know, spy stuff.
By the way, what are your reads? Do you have any other reads than me?

@Gamma Emerald, what is your read on Kop? Do you think he usually plays like this?

I think he's kinda playing like scum him plus after Pin pointed out how Kop's post I noticed how much I felt the surprise felt faked, so yeah I'm scumreading Kop

[Sesq]

You guys wanna know something?
I pulled a reaction test.
Nyeo is scum.
Una is town.

That’s my results from it. Will explain later.
-Kor

i was just pretending to have a terrible case

Because the test looks for players who want me to replace out. Me being confirmed town actually plays to my favor in it, making it not a gambit. Otherwise, this reaction test is a gambit.

Since my thing apparently got delete (the results), here's the TL;DR
Laser - Town
Hoopla - Townish
Sesq - Scummy
Una - Idfk, it can go both ways
Gamma - Like Una, it can go both ways
Nyeo - Scum
Everyone else + Pin - No Result

I find Nyeo scummy because of the results of said test. Why would town want to keep around a player acting anti-town? They wouldn't. Scum would however, because it gives them a smokescreen basically. Honestly, I forgot who said it, (I think it was Gamma) but they'd lynch the anti-town mayor. The same exact thing applies here.

I'm willing to bet you're scum here as well Duck.
-Kor

id actually just rather you (kor) stop posting alltogether

the other head's dope though

with this, nothing would be lost

seriously, stop posting or fix yrself.

nyeo's town

gamma's town

UNVOTE: gamma

[Generic Hydra]

No actually, I’m not. I did my reaction test, I got my results.
Honestly rn, Nyeo is an info lynch for me.
It confirms (at least for me), you and Duck as possible partners, and it helps me figure out people’s alignments.
Please explain why you think Gamma and Nyeo are town before I assume you’re their scumbuddies.
-Kor

[Gamma Emerald]

No actually, I’m not. I did my reaction test, I got my results.
Honestly rn, Nyeo is an info lynch for me.
It confirms (at least for me), you and Duck as possible partners, and it helps me figure out people’s alignments.
Please explain why you think Gamma and Nyeo are town before I assume you’re their scumbuddies.
-Kor

Wait you're scumreading me now? I'd ask you what changed but it doesn't really matter because you're IC and don't have to justify yourself, I just feel blindsided.

[Generic Hydra]

No actually, I’m not. I did my reaction test, I got my results.
Honestly rn, Nyeo is an info lynch for me.
It confirms (at least for me), you and Duck as possible partners, and it helps me figure out people’s alignments.
Please explain why you think Gamma and Nyeo are town before I assume you’re their scumbuddies.
-Kor

Wait you're scumreading me now? I'd ask you what changed but it doesn't really matter because you're IC and don't have to justify yourself, I just feel blindsided.

I’d like to Calirify something here on behalf of my other head, right now gamma is a slight town read but the actions of nyeo (if nyeo ends up being scum) suggests possible scum team, but tbh I don’t exactly see we to eye with kor atm on reads, I honestly think very little has happened this game but I think nyeo is an ok possible lynch.
-n33dl3

[pinturicchio]

Actually, scum would want a toxic player around. It creates a smokescreen for them to hide behind. Those who wanted me to stay are scum. Those who wanted me out/to change my playstyle are town.
Una and Nyeo are prime examples.
-Kor

Scum could also do that to get towncred. I saw it a lot of times.

Two things:
1. Your join date is from 7 days ago; are you an alt or something? Because if you're new, where have you seen scum doing that?
2. Could you link me an example of scum doing that? Because I've never seen something like that.

@Nyeo are you going to answer this, or do I have to vote you to get your attention?

[TheGoldenParadox]

Aannnndddd...