Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

[Not_Mafia]

feel free to quote the PM you sent me when you killed sando

Oh god...I wanna know...but I also don't...nah I wanna know!

It was just me saying I was betting on Quick not voting me and picking you over MOMO to get the kill on pint too

[Sando]

N_M is actually not horrible as town but has a meta that solidly benefits his scumgame because people who take no effort to read him decide that he's a gamethrowing trolling quickhammering asshole as both alignments, which he's not. Quickhammering someone without a claim in a setup with three TPRs (none of which N_M was claiming) should've been a huge red flag.

jjh solidly identified N_M's scum meta, but sadly lynched mutant the one day that N_M could actually have gotten lynched.

I mean I was directing an unclaimed tracker on NM jailer in 2521, which if we'd followed post mutant fakeclaim and avoided JJ out of my 3 scums, town would have been incredibly unlucky to come out without a guaranteed win.

I'm actually super annoyed about that whole thing tbh, deliberately tried to townread to victory based on Math's townreading post, correctly townread enough to gamesolve, didn't get believed and was actively played against by town PRs and obv-towns.

[Killthestory]

are you for real

[Mathdino]

You were good Sando, forgot to give a shout out

[Katyusha]

are you for real

[Killthestory]

i'm sorry, but that was so plainly obvious that my brain feels like it's melting.

my fault for barely playing past d3, but honestly... are you kiddin me? i feel, unfairly towards eddie, mafia'd out, specifically ms, so i have to sincerely apologize to eddie. i also have to apologize that i left him alone in a mylo phase where we were actually lynched. in no universe did i genuinely consider this a possibility, but holy fuck.

god.

[Not_Mafia]

Hey Katyusha

[Katyusha]

Hey N_M

I was kind of watching lmao

[the worst]

I thought your contribution alone was obvtown enough KTS
suspect the issue was the steaming pile of shit heaped onto the thread in the middle of the game (after you stopped posting)

pedit: sup katy

[Killthestory]

i stopped reading at the point where it turned into ego wars, and that's my fault alone. again, eddie shouldn't have had to shoulder my burden of solving the game because i got lazy, but towards the point of realizing this, i still just didn't want to play on this site. i'm not sure how many times i can apologize to eddie, but yeah, dude, this sucked for you. my bad, fully.

[Sando]

my fault for barely playing past d3, but honestly... are you kiddin me? i feel, unfairly towards eddie, mafia'd out, specifically ms, so i have to sincerely apologize to eddie. i also have to apologize that i left him alone in a mylo phase where we were actually lynched. in no universe did i genuinely consider this a possibility, but holy fuck.

Lol, I think everyone was amazed.

If I'm town, NM can't let you hide behind me and confirm me, and if he kills me+you he's left with Quick+Mom against him...even Quick can get it right at that point.

[jjh927]

I was up for the tracker plan until you told me not to be

[Sando]

Ok genuinely regarding the hider, why did no-one ever agree with me about the whole "let the hider die" thing?

Like...the hider is hugely more beneficial to town dead than alive. Staying alive as the hider by messing around with hiding actions is not helping town.

[Sando]

I was up for the tracker plan until you told me not to be

Lol, it was under the proviso of we'd follow Alonzo-Fitz-NM lynch plan for the guaranteed win. Apparently that wasn't good enough for people. Sorry!

[Mathdino]

Because in this specific case, letting the hider die leaves momomen alone with quick with 0 confirmed town, which is a town loss

[Sando]

I was up for the tracker plan until you told me not to be

Also by eod I was 90% sure scum would kill you anyway and just throw mutant under the bus, main part was to not CC and trust where I was directing.

[Killthestory]

a whole month down the drain for town to lose to a lurker.

keep it classy, ms.

[Mathdino]

While that is very classic MS, I don't think I'd blame town as a whole here

Majority of town played well

[Fumuki]

but he's a cool lurker so it's fine I guess...

[jjh927]

I was up for the tracker plan until you told me not to be

Also by eod I was 90% sure scum would kill you anyway and just throw mutant under the bus, main part was to not CC and trust where I was directing.

Yeah I couldn't not CC when the whole thing happened with the explicit non-counterclaiming thing.

[Eddie Cane]

i should apologize to quick though

i could think he's the worst mafia player in existence (which i essentially do) but michael jordan wouldn't be a household name if he bullied some (i don't even know what word is appropriate to say here without someone getting offended) 4"8 kid who couldn't dribble or shoot and thought he was the next michael jordan.

in less conceited words, i should have been nicer and spoke to quick on his level at least a little more than i did or just policy lynched him d1. either way, its more on me than him, i've also recently learned of his mental thing so the onus was on me to be the bigger person and i wasn't. its whatever, i don't ever wish to play mafia with him again and i've never truly blacklisted someone before but i don't wish any ill will on a personal level

[Killthestory]

i'm blacklisting ms, but i don't wish any ill will on a personal level either.

[Sando]

Because in this specific case, letting the hider die leaves momomen alone with quick with 0 confirmed town, which is a town loss

Either way, you need Quicks vote, and needing that vote is what sunk town. The point is, what does having the hider alive accomplish? You're in a 4 person with 1 confirmed or a 3 person with 0 confirmed...same number of unconfirmed people.

[Mathdino]

Pintu in theory offers a mediating voice

[pinturicchio]

Yeah Sando if I had made the right call and voted NM you wouldn't even be discussing this, and I should've voted NM but I really really really didn't give a fuck at the end 'cause I was really mad at MOMO and Quick