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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:12 am

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I feel pretty good right now about this game

Scumteam is gonna shit their pants when NSG starts townreading me

AWOO Y U TOWNREAD ME
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:13 am

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actually scioness you can just forget about the question for now
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:13 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:14 am

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I wish the worst signed up for this game
Game feels wrong, friends are solid motivation

Awoo is scum on our wagon if this is a mislynch

I'm townreading unreal and I agree on mylo
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 am

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Awoo why are you townreading me
- found scum mutantdevle
- whining about winrate (note: this is a bad reason)
- the early push on mutant gives me flashbacks to games in which I hard pushed on scum early and everyone ignored me (taking justice into our own hands, open 695)
- reads are volatile and not agreeable/scripted (nsg is scumteam -> nsg is clear)
- agree on the surprise uglyduck town, he does seem genuine
- high energy


your turn: explain wavemode town to me!

STOP SPAMMING IM WRITING THE POST btw mutant > arcangel in terms of best lynch
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:19 am

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Half of those things did not apply when you initially posted your townread of me

Like that stuff JUST happened and the opposite was true at the time of your townread

I could lynch mutant but I'd kinda feel worse about mislynching him than mislynching aa9
He spews his alignment lategame harder than aa9 does
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:21 am

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awoo, have you ever played with mutant before?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:23 am

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i wonder if this is the game where i should try ellibereth's method and just spend massive amounts of time doing metadives. nearly everyone here has enough play history where it might work.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:24 am

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start with metadiving me please
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:25 am

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i did, the ellibereth-machine said that you're scum :]
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:25 am

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(but in all seirousness, if you're town then i'm still not seeing it.)
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:26 am

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The first 3 times I tried that out after team mafia it went very badly

If you have the time I think a better call might be coming up with meta based reads and testing them on people in games you're spectating
Rather than letting it drive your reads crazy on the ones you're active in

Plus Elli does a lot more diving than you think he does
You and i don't have the knowhow to be full Elli

That said I believe I'm easily readable by Ellis method so I recommend doing it on me and to no one else

That way you can at least townbloc me before I get killed tonight instead of after
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:29 am

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don't joke about me with some machines i thought you were being serious :(

(no clue, don't particularly care but it's still fun)
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:29 am

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#nsg
no, but we come from the same offsite forum. And I watched him play cult leader in rocky picture horror show.

#math
you're talking about my first post, right? Yeah you're exactly correct, take the reasons that happened before then and apply them. You see since then things happened (i read the game) and so now I have MORE INFORMATION what exactly is the problem here buddyboy

and im asking you why is wavetown because Im speaking to you like you're a town and a better player then me and I want to see the reasons, not inspect your thought process.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:39 am

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i want to scumread math
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:45 am

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The problem is I don't think your reasons before I was summoned are sufficient and I think putting me where you had me in your reads list is consistent with how scum treat my slot when I'm lurking

I'll explain wavemode when I'm not on mobile, remind me if I forget
You can tell if I'm not on mobile when my phone isn't autocorrecting lower cases to upper cases
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:08 pm

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That's a good point because I don't think my reasons behind any of my reads in that post were sufficient either. I mean look at that post i was tring mutant and nsg wtf?
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:09 pm

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hahaha. i'm dying to hear your reasons for scumreading me.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:17 pm

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It's like you're just copying my reads from before I was invested in the game as if that still works on page 15
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:07 pm

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Good observation math ;)
Here let me talk about myself for a bit for everyone:
I have a bit of off site experience since I last played, and I found that one of the best ways for ME to figure out the game (note: not necessarily other people) is to take a stance on something that I'm not sure on (the exact team, xyz's alignment) and announce it as if I believe it. Especially in the lategame. Basically keep throwing ideas around until I get something that works. And as a bonus, this creates interactions, reactions... etc as people react to these (often backwards) ideas. That was the motivation of my first post, I read a few random pages and took some random opinions. Its kind of a selfish way of playing because sometimes I get scumread for it, but then I can just analyze WHY the scumread. = still generates valuable content. And I am NOT going to say what I am looking for to find scum when people are scumreading me. People described me as the master of omgus, but it was almost always accurate omgus ;) Sadly this game I can talk to 2 players x( NSG and math x(


here i will now read NSG

-- oh so she was busy. That explains the reading a biting / burning / lazy tone that did not seem like any NSG i have ever seen before. Literally I read different = mafia LOL shit I just killed my own case before I started to write it
-- is the post that I sheeped in my opening to call mutant town, i no longer agree with that after rereading, and upon reread, I disliked how soon after this point in the game the momentum for mutant died

OK so maybe there isn't a good reason to scumread MSG, if and only if the tone thing I saw is invalid. MAYBE I can write off the mutant momentum dying as co-incidence but I think that the post from mutant 147 is replying to is more incriminating then a write off as town post. Consider rereading it
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:09 pm

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Conclusion: I don't want to kill MSG anymore and would rather park my vote on AA unless mutant gains steam again, since AA made some really bad posts.

( fun fact 11-2 EV is 0.39 and town does worse then EV in vanilla in practice :S )
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:38 pm

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In post 311, Mathdino wrote:
In post 294, HeWhoSwims wrote:UglyDuck(3) (L-4): wavemode, BuJaber, ArcAngel9
ArcAngel9 (2) (L-5): northsidegal, wingedcatgirl
Wavemode: definitely town, just with bad reads. It's chill tho
BuJaber: no clue, gun to head town
ArcAngel9: THE PUREST OF COUNTERWAGONS

NSG: will get nightkilled
Wingedcatgirl: i was sure she was scum in Echo Bay SEO so clearly I can't read her.

Can I get opinions on WCG?

my opinion on WCG is that they just feel new to me not skummy. I am also not always big on the LAL case thing. However, I do see (as it is mentioned above here), the validity in a VT game behind it. But also because of that the promotion of the WCG lynch based on LAL seems kind of lynch baity?
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:43 pm

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I just spent 30 minutes trying to back and pile on my Seal case... and I was for sure forcing it. I am still not completely sold but I am
UNVOTE: UnrealSeal
for now.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:44 pm

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@ Math - not arguing with it. but why the TR this game?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:46 pm

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In post 352, northsidegal wrote:UNVOTE:
why?
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