Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[Scioness Sajj]

explanation?

[Scioness Sajj]

wow okay fine

this is confscum like tell me it's not

[Scioness Sajj]

not to mention UD has ignored my post with questions but engaged wave

[Scioness Sajj]

and no this is not lurky town that doesn't know what to do

or how to play the game

[UglyDuck]

not to mention UD has ignored my post with questions but engaged wave

so did I ignore wave or engage wave?

[Scioness Sajj]

if 1521 wasn't clear enough 1523 was.

but keep going

[UglyDuck]

if 1521 wasn't clear enough 1523 was.

but keep going

you literally asked "if anyone thought it odd" that I was dodging Wavemode questions and followed it up by saying "I ignored you but engaged Wavemode".
Also I have my thread set up to read top to bottom (so if you just do the post of -lets say 1521- I have no idea what that is referencing).

[UglyDuck]

if 1521 wasn't clear enough 1523 was.

but keep going

also what does keep going mean?
people asked stuff, I answered stuff.
you said stuff, I said stuff.

Me asking where you stand is a completely valid question.

[Scioness Sajj]

i meant your explanation on your read on wave.

keep going means you said you had to do some meta dive and come back to us.

[UglyDuck]

i meant your explanation on your read on wave.

keep going means you said you had to do some meta dive and come back to us.

sorry then. "keep going" is a sarcastic statement from my PoV.

If I ask you why you think everything I say is skummy will I get an answer?

[Scioness Sajj]

it's not really, i'm waiting for the content you promised to deliver about tora/a50. you could have misunderstand what i was referring in 1520 but 1523 was clear enough, yet you still didn't address it. why has your read on wave changed?

sure

[Scioness Sajj]

Some thoughts:

1) Almost(Math) is alive. First off, after my last encounter with Math I can tell you that I would of never let him live past night one in the first place. Assuming most people will eyeroll that - why would Skum!UD not kill Almost last night? If I were skum, then literally all of the benefits of keeping that slot alive pretty much dissipated the second Math subbed out.

in all of this wifom:
1st sentence: scum!UD would kill math N1
2nd and 3rd: why wouldn't scum UD kill A50 now, since any benefits from keeping Math alive disappeared when Math subbed out.
So apparently they were/are some benefits for scum UD to keep math/a50 alive, huh?

But for real real though - that plus the fact that skum!me would assumedly know that Alomst/Math would flip green and then people would inevitably go back to Math's reads... the best defense I can state is that the fact that Almost is alive really should just assure most people I am town.

Math started defending you early D1. A50 also does defends you now.
Your best defense is a narrative about how scumUD would kill people that townread and defend him.

2) Bujaber is dead. So Almost(Math) is alive and instead a Skum team that consists of me decides to kill the #1 person pushing my case from D1 (maybe tied for #1). I get that there is like a super sick WIFOM case there to be made, but I honestly have no issue pointing out that I just am not a good enough player to pull that off.

What are you not good enough to do? Kill the most town read person that also suspects you? How can this be above anybody's capability?

point 3 has too many mistakes to mention but it also just another narrative.

it's day 3, you still don't interact with people, you don't post reads, you only appear in the game summary narratives and vote. you go straight to the defense that is heavily based on 'i wouldn't do that as scum'. there is no addressing points that people have said earlier about you, there is no asking why people scum read you.
you didn't scumhunt this game at all, your explanation to not town reading wave anymore was 'he is less towny' you still didn't explain why nor did you said anything before about why wave isn't town read of your before.

[HeWhoSwims]

UnrealSeal and Wavemode have been prodded

[Myloninja13]

AHHHH I don't know what the hell to do in this game?!?

[UnrealSeal]

I'll be honest, I haven't been following this game due to the lack of interesting things going on it.

I did some quick reading and formed a quick lynch pool for today.

Uglyduck: most likely to flip scum in my mind for a lot of the reasons Scioness has stated. clears Scioness as town and puts sus on A50 if he's scum. Clears A50 as town if he flips town.

Scioness: Clears UglyDuck/A50 if she flips scum, and puts sus on the two if she flips town. least likely to flip scum in my opinion.

Myloninja: Lurker. No associative reads from him but we probably need to get rid of him before Mylo/Lylo as he's not helpful.

Almost50: potential scum based off Mathdino's play before replacement. clears Uglyduck/Scioness (the scioness part comes from Mathdino's play) if he flips town, and puts sus on Uglyduck if scum.

pretty much everyone else I have a town/null read on.

with all this said, I don't know the VC so I don't know what Uglyduck is at, but he's my vote.

If we can't decide by like, 2 day before deadline mark, I'd recommend flash-lynching mylo.

I'll expand upon these if asked, I really just wanted to get out something quick to avoid prod.

[wavemode]

UD still scum

[UglyDuck]

Some thoughts:

1) Almost(Math) is alive. First off, after my last encounter with Math I can tell you that I would of never let him live past night one in the first place. Assuming most people will eyeroll that - why would Skum!UD not kill Almost last night? If I were skum, then literally all of the benefits of keeping that slot alive pretty much dissipated the second Math subbed out.

in all of this wifom:
1st sentence: scum!UD would kill math N1
2nd and 3rd: why wouldn't scum UD kill A50 now, since any benefits from keeping Math alive disappeared when Math subbed out.
So apparently they were/are some benefits for scum UD to keep math/a50 alive, huh?

But for real real though - that plus the fact that skum!me would assumedly know that Alomst/Math would flip green and then people would inevitably go back to Math's reads... the best defense I can state is that the fact that Almost is alive really should just assure most people I am town.

Math started defending you early D1. A50 also does defends you now.
Your best defense is a narrative about how scumUD would kill people that townread and defend him.

2) Bujaber is dead. So Almost(Math) is alive and instead a Skum team that consists of me decides to kill the #1 person pushing my case from D1 (maybe tied for #1). I get that there is like a super sick WIFOM case there to be made, but I honestly have no issue pointing out that I just am not a good enough player to pull that off.

What are you not good enough to do? Kill the most town read person that also suspects you? How can this be above anybody's capability?

point 3 has too many mistakes to mention but it also just another narrative.

it's day 3, you still don't interact with people, you don't post reads, you only appear in the game summary narratives and vote. you go straight to the defense that is heavily based on 'i wouldn't do that as scum'. there is no addressing points that people have said earlier about you, there is no asking why people scum read you.
you didn't scumhunt this game at all, your explanation to not town reading wave anymore was 'he is less towny' you still didn't explain why nor did you said anything before about why wave isn't town read of your before.

1) I don't get it? All the answers are there. I made reference to the last game I played with Math where I kept him alive to try and WIFOM the situation - it brutally murdered us in an almost perfect town victory. Take away from this is in future games (let alone games where he is with me in an isolated atmosphere like this, where it would be even more stupid based on how it went the first round). Your next point is confusing I don't really know what answer you are looking for. My point was that killing the slot after the sub as skum in my position would of been the play (at least to me). I get how you think it is all WIFOM, but fact of the matter is the entire game is WIFOM, you are just tunneling and isolating out my defenses. Which is fine - but if you want answers try to prepare yourself for the fact that this is how I answer questions.

2) Skum!UD absolutely would kill off players that town read me. Like no doubt at all. Maybe not every day, but early game it would be the best strategy to ensure end game. IMO at least.

3) My point is it is so obvious, I don't think anyone as skum would do it in my slot.

4) I post lots of reads you just don't like them.
I find it hard to skum hunt early in games.
I absolutely have been addressing points people have made about me (though you saying this makes me think you have something you would like me to address) (I am getting to the other 3 reads promised, in case
that is it).
I have not asked people why they skum read me very much because they have made it fairly clear.

[mutantdevle]

LOOK OUT IT'S A SPOOKY GHOST!!!!

[mutantdevle]

"Lynch Scioness Sajj" the spirit says.

[mutantdevle]

The town watches on as the soul of northsidegal fades into the mist

[Myloninja13]

AHHHHHHHH this game has lost me completely.

Honestly, I'm just voting UglyDuck even though he's made some towny posts because just AHHHH I don't get this game anymore!?

VOTE: UglyDuck

[Toranaga]

VOTE: uglyduck

let's move on

gg

[Almost50]

If this flips red the other is off the wagon. If it flips green at least one, but possibly both scum are on it. Let's see.

[Almost50]

Also, if it flips red I'll be somebody;s bitch for the rest of the game. Someone

on

the wagon, that is.

[Toranaga]

Also, if it flips red I'll be somebody;s bitch for the rest of the game. Someone

on

the wagon, that is.

your bitch application is being reviewed