Open 726 - Revenge of the Vengeful (Endgame)


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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:20 am

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In post 110, Enigma wrote:UNVOTE: Marshmallow
this is somewhat townie
In post 111, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 107, Rei wrote:
In post 105, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 104, Rei wrote:It looks like a frantic scum who’s trying to fix a slip, it might be just a townie who can’t express themselves but I don’t like how you said “unless its a double edged question...”

Also this is about your recent posts but why are you asking everyone what they think of you? How is that going to help you scum hunt
It kinda seems like a scum trying to see what people think of them but honestly I think town should be more motivated to ask about people’s reads on eachother rather than people’s reads on them
A frantic scum who's trying to fix a slip he intentionally made in the first post of the game, appearing scummy intentionally? :shifty:

Because I look at how people react to my posts. As I said, I'm fishing. Waiting for people to potentially slip something is long, and can simply never happen. However, if I make intentionally scummy reads, I make myself LHF and see how people read. Don't worry, the reads on eachother will come :)

When everyone, or a lot of people, will have answered, I will make my list of reads.

P.S. the reason I'm doing that is that if scum try to get me down, I get my Vengekill... and murder one of them.
I didn’t say you’re making yourself appear scummy intentionally though, it isn’t necessarily intentional. If you’re saying you did it “intentionally “ then it’s a matter of whether we buy that or not.

Um okay, I still don’t get how “intentionally acting scummy” helps anyone, if you’re a townie who’s being scummy on purpose then that just doesn’t help town, it confuses them more, thats not fishing.

It’s also not fishing when you ask people what they think of you, it would be more effective if the read came from them spontaneously because then we’d see who they push for/against, not just place a read because Marshmallow was asking everyone what they thought of him.

What are you fishing for exactly? A scum read on you? A town read on you? I doubt that helps anyone identify the evils especially after you admit you’re intentionally acting scummy.
Hm, granted. But I maintain that point. Why the fuck would I do that as scum lol.

No? Acting scummy starts the discussion pretty well because people start giving reads, thoughts and all on you INSTANTLY, and it skips the useless "throw shit on the wall and see what sticks" phase, because apparently that phase is not much used on here.

The more we discuss it, the less it is useful.... so I will plead the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America on that one.

Idem. I will comment that later.
You would do that as scum exactly to say "why would I do that as scum" lmfao

Yes it starts discussion, but then again what discussion could be that great if its based off someone acting intentionally scummy.

But okay, I'll stop talking about this now, although it doesn't make me feel any better about you.
I'll be waiting for your comments then.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:24 am

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List of Reads - Marshmallow Marshall

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Enigma. Reacted to my opening as I expected a townie to do. That, + the meta search.

Almost50. He tries to detail his thoughts as much as possible. I get a transparent feeling from him. He keeps a doubt at everything, has the healthy suspicion of a townie.


RadiantCowbells. He searched for me, but I wonder if he tried to buddy me or not. I get a town vibe from that slot, but with a slight forced vibe to it. Townish.


Not_Mafia. He's not different from the games I've played with him, and he was town in every of them. Slight slight slight townish lean.


Null - All the players I did not name, because of AFK or lack of contribution.


Trinity. The posts he/she made were quite null, and nothing could be extracted of them. They were devoid of life, I'd say. Cautious? Also CRAPPY BIRTHDAI TO YOU :)

Snowman. His first and only post stroke me as scummy, and he did not post anything else since then. Scummish lean.


Mafiascum
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:27 am

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Ty Rei. I haven't made a mind on you yet. However, you may look at the current results of that strategy. List of reads, #126. I dislike the fact that you can't get anything global before quite late on this site. My strategy is somewhat experimental. But if you want to see my scum meta, just look at my previous games... they're all scum lol. Newbie 1868 being my first.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:45 am

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Vote Count 1.5



[2]
Marshmallow Marshall
- Almost50, Rei
(L-3)

[2]
Not_Mafia
- TrinityNZ, Enigma
(L-3)

[1]
Almost50
- Marshmallow Marshall
[1]
IcemanCh
- RadiantCowbells
[1]
Oath
- Not_Mafia
[1]
RadiantCowbells
- IcemanCh
Enigma -
Rei -
TrinityNZ -


Not Voting (1): Oath

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2018-07-24 11:30:00) from now, or July 24th, 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6).


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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:48 am

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In post 128, Ankamius wrote:Do you guys like vote counts
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:19 pm

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In post 129, Enigma wrote:
In post 128, Ankamius wrote:Do you guys like vote counts
No
Whoops, sorry and thanks for doing VCs. Also I can't count when new pages are ... was trying to bump it to the next page and then my brain turned off leading to saying something stupid and not even bumping it to the next page.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:29 pm

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In post 126, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:List of Reads - Marshmallow Marshall

Town


Enigma. Reacted to my opening as I expected a townie to do. That, + the meta search.

Almost50. He tries to detail his thoughts as much as possible. I get a transparent feeling from him. He keeps a doubt at everything, has the healthy suspicion of a townie.


RadiantCowbells. He searched for me, but I wonder if he tried to buddy me or not. I get a town vibe from that slot, but with a slight forced vibe to it. Townish.


Not_Mafia. He's not different from the games I've played with him, and he was town in every of them. Slight slight slight townish lean.


Null - All the players I did not name, because of AFK or lack of contribution.


Trinity. The posts he/she made were quite null, and nothing could be extracted of them. They were devoid of life, I'd say. Cautious? Also CRAPPY BIRTHDAI TO YOU :)

Snowman. His first and only post stroke me as scummy, and he did not post anything else since then. Scummish lean.


Mafiascum
I can't quite figure out who is who/what/where with the discussion between Rei and MM. Had felt that MM scuminess was decreasing, though this recent dialogue is intriguing.

So your list is missing Rei and Oath. Rei isn't AFK or not contributing? MM, I know you mentioned you hadn't made your mind up yet, but would Rei be above or below Null (by gut, if you don't have why yet).
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:37 pm

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In post 131, Enigma wrote:
In post 126, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:List of Reads - Marshmallow Marshall

Town


Enigma. Reacted to my opening as I expected a townie to do. That, + the meta search.

Almost50. He tries to detail his thoughts as much as possible. I get a transparent feeling from him. He keeps a doubt at everything, has the healthy suspicion of a townie.


RadiantCowbells. He searched for me, but I wonder if he tried to buddy me or not. I get a town vibe from that slot, but with a slight forced vibe to it. Townish.


Not_Mafia. He's not different from the games I've played with him, and he was town in every of them. Slight slight slight townish lean.


Null - All the players I did not name, because of AFK or lack of contribution.


Trinity. The posts he/she made were quite null, and nothing could be extracted of them. They were devoid of life, I'd say. Cautious? Also CRAPPY BIRTHDAI TO YOU :)

Snowman. His first and only post stroke me as scummy, and he did not post anything else since then. Scummish lean.


Mafiascum
I can't quite figure out who is who/what/where with the discussion between Rei and MM. Had felt that MM scuminess was decreasing, though this recent dialogue is intriguing.

So your list is missing Rei and Oath. Rei isn't AFK or not contributing? MM, I know you mentioned you hadn't made your mind up yet, but would Rei be above or below Null (by gut, if you don't have why yet).
Above... but really really unsure. On 100, I give him 51 town points. Gut read btw.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:37 pm

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In post 128, Ankamius wrote:Do you guys like vote counts
YES!!! :mrgreen:
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 126, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Trinity. The posts he/she made were quite null, and nothing could be extracted of them. They were devoid of life, I'd say. Cautious? Also CRAPPY BIRTHDAI TO YOU
I support this statement. On both counts, the cautiousness and the happy bday :)
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:39 pm

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Marshmallow I can’t read most of those colours.

Also why would you wish someone a crappy birthday?!
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:39 pm

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Marshmallow I can’t read most of those colours.

Also why would you wish someone a crappy birthday?!
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:11 pm

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In post 135, TrinityNZ wrote:Marshmallow I can’t read most of those colours.

Also why would you wish someone a crappy birthday?!
It means happy birthday... lol..... also GET A CORRECT COMPUTER FOR GOD'S SAKE! Colors are there for understanding the order of reads and having the color associated to the read of every player I put there so you can just look at it quick and know what I think. I've never seen anyone tell me I was too clear with my colors... ;)
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:04 pm

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VOTE: NM

this is the lynch today unless we want to lynch someone else and leash the venge there.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:11 pm

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Snore
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:15 pm

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we're using the full 14 days though
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:54 pm

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In post 138, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: NM

this is the lynch today unless we want to lynch someone else and leash the venge there.
Care to elaborate?
In post 139, Not_Mafia wrote:Snore
Care to defend yourself?
In post 140, RadiantCowbells wrote:we're using the full 14 days though
Of course.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:11 pm

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Ok so the play here isn't to lynch the scummiest person, it's to lynch the second scummiest person and have them venge the scummiest person

it would add a lot of equity if we can get rid of scum without giving them a vengekill

lynching scum gives them a vig and win equities out like a normal mafia game
lynching town gives us a vig and win equities out like nightless
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:13 pm

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do you even venge the second scummiest person though

like I think there's an argument to be made for lynching people as close to null as possible and venging downward
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:17 pm

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you actually lynch the fourth scummiest
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:18 pm

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this is actually pretty fascinating
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:31 pm

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MM why am I high town if you thought I was forced and potentially buddying you?
that description really doesn't sound like someone you're townreading
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 pm

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idk generally scum don't -all- lurk generally when you get a lurker scumteam there's one scum in the actives serving as the face
i would say there's probably 2 scum lurking in {nm/iceman/trinity/oath} and one scum in the active players
kind of leaning towards MM because of various reasons
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:48 pm

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In post 144, RadiantCowbells wrote:you actually lynch the fourth scummiest
We don't want to get rid of our obvtowns though. We need people to lead town.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:49 pm

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In post 146, RadiantCowbells wrote:MM why am I high town if you thought I was forced and potentially buddying you?
that description really doesn't sound like someone you're townreading
That feeling is not hard, just a slight thought I have. You come to me as more townish than anything. You're not HIGH town though. Just townish.
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