Open 726 - Revenge of the Vengeful (Endgame)


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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:39 am

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Vote Count 2.2


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TrinityNZ
- Enigma, Marshmallow Marshall
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[1]
Rei
- TrinityNZ
Almost50 -
Enigma -
IcemanCh -
Marshmallow Marshall -
Not_Mafia -




Not Voting (4): Almost50, IcemanCh, Not_Mafia, Rei

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:33 pm

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In post 445, Almost50 wrote:
In post 439, Enigma wrote:Nothing is happening :/
VOTE: Trinity
In post 443, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:VOTE: Trinity Let's go I guess ;-;
Call me paranoid, but I'm not liking either of these two votes/posts at face value. They seem to have been done solely to get this through:
In post 424, TrinityNZ wrote:Yep, if you lynch me, I will kill Rei.
Which in turn makes me suspect both Trinity and Rei will flip green and one of Enigma/MM is actually red.
Paranoid! :P

But seriously, there are only 2 scums. I heavily townread Enigma. I'm town. Ssssssoooooooo........ nope.
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I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:12 pm

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In post 445, Almost50 wrote:
In post 439, Enigma wrote:Nothing is happening :/
VOTE: Trinity
In post 443, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:VOTE: Trinity Let's go I guess ;-;
Call me paranoid, but I'm not liking either of these two votes/posts at face value. They seem to have been done solely to get this through:
In post 424, TrinityNZ wrote:Yep, if you lynch me, I will kill Rei.
Which in turn makes me suspect both Trinity and Rei will flip green and one of Enigma/MM is actually red.
Good point!
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:14 pm

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Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:04 pm

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In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
Which means you're scum :D
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:15 pm

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In post 454, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
Which means you're scum :D
Why is that?
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:44 pm

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In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
If you are town, that is a pretty bad idea. You were content on a A50 venge yesterday, what changed?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 455, TrinityNZ wrote:
In post 454, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
Which means you're scum :D
Why is that?
Because you'd kill obvtown. I don't think you would do that if you were town ^^
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:11 pm

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In post 457, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 455, TrinityNZ wrote:
In post 454, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
Which means you're scum :D
Why is that?
Because you'd kill obvtown. I don't think you would do that if you were town ^^
I still dont see how enigma is "obvtown" ^^
I reread the thread and nothing confirms him at all so
I'd like to know why he's so obviously town to you ^^


also a lot of posts coming up with my thoughts about some stuff, will make them in small separate posts since i know some people dislike walls
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:13 pm

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In post 11, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pretty sure keerigan is town

Why did you vote him enigma
In post 14, RadiantCowbells wrote:What if he's genuinely frustrated by getting scumread all the time as town?
An early tr on mm for his opening post, kinda dont like that but at the same time it could be a framing attempt
I'm not really sure of how rc acts with his partners
In post 123, Enigma wrote:
In post 49, Oath wrote:Hmmmmm sup guys
In post 86, Oath wrote:I feel like I should vote
In post 122, RadiantCowbells wrote:Slightly better feels.about her two posts than anything from the others
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Enigma highlighting RC's fake reads. Thats definitely something townie imo but I'm feeling iffy that he just commented :eek: :eek: :eek: then never brought it up again.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:17 pm

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In post 227, RadiantCowbells wrote:the point of his play is to get the venge off on me and you're enabling it by not lynching someone else and having them venge him.
RC was pretty adament on having someone vengekill nm instead of lynching him right away, supposedly because nm would venge him
t would definitely make sense if nm is town, if nm is scum with him i dont see any benefit from that besides RC gaining town's trust
In post 252, Enigma wrote:Ok, after a reread, I'm could do a skip on a NM/MM lynch today. Outside of the NM/MM association, I sorta felt MM was town earlier so we can revisit that day 2.

Could do a Trinity lynch. Would much prefer Oath to get vengekilled, though lynchable also.

Slightly cautious that Rei and A50 have escaped scrutiny today as well.
I wanna know why you though MM was town and if you still feel the same
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:20 pm

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In post 179, IcemanCh wrote:Sorry, all for being AFK for so long. I was traveling back from Utah when the game started, was more tired then I thought when I got back, and had a butt load of work to catch up on.

Anyways, I'm here now and ready to kill us some scum.

So far here are my reads.

TrinityNZ - very very small town lean. She's been kind of quiet compared to other games which is a concern to me. However, I've seen her scum play and so far nothing reminds me of it. So I'm giving a very small town lean.
Not_Mafia - Mostly neutral small scum lean. Not really enough to go off of. Seems to be sitting back and watching. Not a total lean towards scum but, I prefer to push non-content providers towards the scum side.
RadiantCowbells - lean town - I like the logic behind the venge kills and who to lynch. It makes sense if we want to avoid scum getting venge kills.
Rei - Nuetral - I want more information about why certain things seemed so important in what was an obvious RVS vote. I'll ask in a follow up post.
Oath - Solid Scum - 1 post a day with Zero content. Needs to turn that around quick.
Marshmallow Marshall - scum lean - I hate the opening and I don't like the Post #31. I think most of MMs content has been empty with a few solid contributing posts.
Almost50 - Mostly neutral small scum lean. Same boat as NM.
Enigma - town lean - Good question, good content, good interactions. I'm liking Enigma for town.
In post 286, IcemanCh wrote:Well that didn't take long lol. Here is my reads and where I"m currently at.

Rei - Town - Pretty obvious.
RadiantCowbells - Slight Town - Good content and reads on everyone. Fairly consistent in his position.
Enigma - Slight Town - Has a lot of posts but honestly not a lot of content. I suspect town but, there's just not much to go on.
MarshMallow - Nuetral - A TON of content. Almost to much. Seems to be putting a show. Lots of posting, postulating, and moving about but not much productivity. I'm skeptical of town but, that might just be the cynic in me getting in the way. It just seems to be over the top.
Almost 50 - Nuetral - I want to lean town but, the confusion seems fake. Giving the benefit of the doubt and shoving the cynic aside I'm going to say Nuetral for now.
TrinityNZ - Scum Lean - I've seen her other games. Kind of all over the place when she's on her own. She seems slightly more together in this game. I'm wondering if it's because of being coached in the background.
Not_Mafia - Scum - Zero content. At this point has to be scum. Can't figure out any reason for the absolute radio silence.
Oath - Scum - Same as NM
Iceman what made me move up from neutral to "obvtown" for you
also why did trinity move from a small town lean to a scum lean
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:21 pm

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and what do you think of RC saying he wouldnt lynch her?
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:25 pm

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In post 301, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: NM
okay so despite being adament on not lynching NM and having him vengekilled instead, he lynched him later
It makes me wonder what motivation is behind that
Assuming NM is town, that would just get RC vengekilled by NM
But if NM is evil then he would've cleared RC a bit, although I think we would've held some suspicions about why NM wouldnt have vengekilled RC
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 316, Almost50 wrote:
In post 315, TrinityNZ wrote:
In post 311, Almost50 wrote:Yes, Trinity needs to confirm sticking to the plan. I dunno how to deal with it after the flip though. It needs to be dealt with now because upon the flip she is supposed to take someone with her already.
TBH I don’t understand this ‘plan’ and I haven’t seen much support for it. What does everyone else think?
What don't you understand? I'm offering myself as your vengekill target. If we both flip town the rest of players are forced to reevaluate their reads. If one of us flips scum they can carry on accordingly. I obviously know my own alignment, but it seems like I'm failing to show it, so it would be good for the town to remove me (and the same applies to you regardless of your alignment).
pretty solid townread here, he was fully ready to be a venged target
the only scenario i see him as evil is with trinity and this is like some scheme to clear one of them, but if trinity had been lynched and not killed him that would've also been sus for him

tbh this setup doesnt really offer much space for strong bussing because of the vengekills hmm
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:43 pm

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In post 373, Enigma wrote:By end of D2, assuming we miss today - for me, should to be deads (in no particular order) are:
1. Oath
2. Rei
3. A50
4. N_M

Oath is a vengekill
can you explain this list @enigma
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:44 pm

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In post 392, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 385, Enigma wrote:N_M and RC is probably TvS
In post 386, Enigma wrote:VOTE: Rei
This makes no sense? You state it's TvS then vote someone else??
In post 387, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 385, Enigma wrote:N_M and RC is probably TvS
Vote RC with me then
In post 388, Enigma wrote:
In post 387, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 385, Enigma wrote:N_M and RC is probably TvS
Vote RC with me then
How do I know your not mafia?
HMMMMMMMMMMM......... I had a strange gut read on RC at beginning, he got a worldwide townread and disappeared.... HMMMMMMMMM....................... I'm tempted to actually follow N_M on that one :lol:

this is a post that makes me start doubting that MM is scum cause I don't know if he'd be gutsy enough to mention his partner's disappearance
but then again he never lynched him so i'm not sure how serious or genuine this was
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:45 pm

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In post 449, Almost50 wrote:
In post 447, Enigma wrote:Who would you like her to vengekill? You were pretty set on having her lynched yesterday and her vengekilling you?

PS: Hi AP

Pedit: Are you so sure that N_M is confirmed town to blindly sheep?
1- Yesterday I was, but right now I'm thinking one of you/MM (and honestly I do prefer you)
2- Hi
3- Yes. N_M doesn't bus.
Hey, from 1 to 10 how much confidence do you have in number 3?
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:53 pm

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after rereading and thinking a bit i'd say my current standing is


2. IcemanCh
7. Marshmallow Marshall
9. Enigma

Town:
A50 (that post asking to be vengekilled is townie) , trinity ( the fact that she's willing to be lynched so easily is also townie)

Null:
NM (I want to have him as a townread but i'm seriously paranoid about how hard RC pushed for him)

Scum:
Enigma, MM , Iceman
i definitely think i have at least one scum in my evil pool
however I will say that I think if enigma is evil then MM is good and vice versa bec i dont see them pushing the same reads together so hard and being so similar in many way if they're both evil

iceman is honestly just scum by POE since i townread others more than him

for now VOTE: enigma
you seemed annoyed that there was no pressure on me and a50 on d1 but tbh you've kinda been floating for being "obvtown" whatever that means
tell me who you sus now and how your reaction is regarding how trinity is so willing to be lynched
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:54 pm

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lets pretend no one noticed i copied the names from the playerlist
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:14 pm

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In post 468, Rei wrote:after rereading and thinking a bit i'd say my current standing is


2. IcemanCh
7. Marshmallow Marshall
9. Enigma

Town:
A50 (that post asking to be vengekilled is townie) , trinity ( the fact that she's willing to be lynched so easily is also townie)

Null:
NM (I want to have him as a townread but i'm seriously paranoid about how hard RC pushed for him)

Scum:
Enigma, MM , Iceman
i definitely think i have at least one scum in my evil pool
however I will say that I think if enigma is evil then MM is good and vice versa bec i dont see them pushing the same reads together so hard and being so similar in many way if they're both evil

iceman is honestly just scum by POE since i townread others more than him

for now VOTE: enigma
you seemed annoyed that there was no pressure on me and a50 on d1 but tbh you've kinda been floating for being "obvtown" whatever that means
tell me who you sus now and how your reaction is regarding how trinity is so willing to be lynched
I’m not willing to be lynched. I’m just saying who I will venge kill if I’m lynched. I don’t think I should be lynched, as I’m not scum.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:18 pm

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In post 457, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 455, TrinityNZ wrote:
In post 454, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
Which means you're scum :D
Why is that?
Because you'd kill obvtown. I don't think you would do that if you were town ^^

Only if Enigma is obvtown, which I don’t think is the case.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:19 pm

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In post 456, Enigma wrote:
In post 453, TrinityNZ wrote:Ok so I’m changing my plan. If you lynch me I will kill Enugma.
If you are town, that is a pretty bad idea. You were content on a A50 venge yesterday, what changed?
i don’t think I agreed to an A50 vengekill.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:21 pm

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In post 433, IcemanCh wrote:I still have a scum lean for trinity. I was surprised that I was wrong about Oath and N_M. Kind shakes my reads a bit.

I like the idea of lynching her since I think there's a good chance she's scum but, I don't like the Rei venge. I'm not sure that I have a scum read on Rei and it would suck to lose two town.
Do you prefer my Enigma venge kill?
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:20 am

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In post 467, Rei wrote:
In post 449, Almost50 wrote:
In post 447, Enigma wrote:Who would you like her to vengekill? You were pretty set on having her lynched yesterday and her vengekilling you?

PS: Hi AP

Pedit: Are you so sure that N_M is confirmed town to blindly sheep?
1- Yesterday I was, but right now I'm thinking one of you/MM (and honestly I do prefer you)
2- Hi
3- Yes. N_M doesn't bus.
Hey, from 1 to 10 how much confidence do you have in number 3?
10 pit of 10. I know his play well and I have been scum with him before.

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