Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[ruru]

that post is in spirit addressed to like half the players here I'm not intending to single you out by the way

but like, yes, I think you should read the pt and draw your own conclusion since it involves two players in this game.

[Vex Vience]

VOTE: alonzo

i've really only stalled out because of the sheer number of replacements
tbh, its kinda making me not wanna play only because by the time i start to actually read someone, they've replaced out, meaning that most of my reads have to get scrapped because the new player plays entirely differently

[Creature]

Hehe

No

[BuJaber]

@ruru : I'm not sure what you wanted us to see. All I got was skitter tried very hard as scum in that game, her effort here doesn't come close imo. Also that sky took that game very seriously as town and put in a lot of effort.

But reading that led me to read other PTs... and I found this:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=76763&start=275

Post 288. Aug 30th.

This game started Aug 24th.
Unless skitter is playing 4D chess......
She's town here.

[the worst]

that post is in spirit addressed to like half the players here I'm not intending to single you out by the way

but like, yes, I think you should read the pt and draw your own conclusion since it involves two players in this game.

*blinks slowly*
you realise I've had to be coy and aware of that for ages right

[ruru]

skitter's posts in that pt are

super

pockety

skygazer should have been paranoid here

I would expect something, anything other than a couple of questions and then "skitter feels town"

[ruru]

(but yes I'm pretty sure skitter is just town in this game)

[ruru]

that post is in spirit addressed to like half the players here I'm not intending to single you out by the way

but like, yes, I think you should read the pt and draw your own conclusion since it involves two players in this game.

*blinks slowly*
you realise I've had to be coy and aware of that for ages right

aware of what?

[the worst]

in this game in particular, that skyg didn't put a lot of effort into sorting skitter and that people should be checking themselves for half assed reads on skitter

[Alonzo]

Im gonna cook Dinner, then you will get you readmap.

[Alonzo]

Ok, I have reads on all slot sbut Skitter who will get their own post at a later time (cos meta)

[ruru]

skitter's posts in that pt are

super

pockety

skygazer should have been paranoid here

I would expect something, anything other than a couple of questions and then "skitter feels town"

@bujaber does this affect your read on her slot at all?

[ruru]

Why or why not?

[ruru]

Hi I'm ruru I normally teach math but I'll be your substitute English teacher for today.

[ruru]

Please write at least one page, double-spaced, thanks.

[ruru]

Alonzo you didn't do your homework

[BuJaber]

Sky's? I'm trying to make sense of her actions.

Nothing she did here really aligns with how she played in pyp. I just still don't know how someone who puts that much effort into trying to win (she really stepped up as soon as she felt comfortable ausuka was town, their analysis of setup was really good, and she continued to try and utilize her neighborhoods), can roll scum and switch the attitude around completely.
But maybe A50 was right. Maybe sky really is a traitor who's just going for broke and being obvious about it.

Got any scum meta on sky? Could you see that from her?
Might be easier than trying to sort tw.

[ruru]

@ofrhz gamma is due for prodding

[ruru]

I just still don't know how someone who puts that much effort into trying to win (she really stepped up as soon as she felt comfortable ausuka was town, their analysis of setup was really good, and she continued to try and utilize her neighborhoods), can roll scum and switch the attitude around completely.

what does this have to do with her alignment though?

like, replace the word "scum" with "town" in your sentence and we get this:

I just still don't know how someone who puts that much effort into trying to win (she really stepped up as soon as she felt comfortable ausuka was town, their analysis of setup was really good, and she continued to try and utilize her neighborhoods), can roll town and switch the attitude around completely.

do you think it makes more sense for her to not try as town after trying hard as town than it does for her to not try as scum after trying hard at town? if not, why do you think she's town?

[ruru]

btw, at least some of her lack of effort was definitely for out-of-game reasons (she

was

busy, and we had a long twilight in jester nightless that she was modding)

but I'm trying to evaluate the content she

did

post and it doesn't really match what I think she would be feeling as town

[ruru]

this is the only scum.sky meta I've read

viewtopic.php?t=76645&f=51&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

[BuJaber]

Well the difference is as town there's less pressure on each individual townie to play well than it there is on each scum player.

A town player can survive being scumread then townread then scumread again because ultimately their individual death does not severely impact town. Especially not in the early game.

Playing scum with continuous pressure/suspicion on your slot for an entire game is an absolutely wretched existence and makes it far harder to win.

Even if say one scum player plays poorly and gets suspected .. they still have to be careful up to the last living minute not to hurt their teammates by associations or something like that.
So minimum effort required as scum is much higher than that as town.
I could totally understand her taking it easy for the beginning of the game as town after pyp, and then picking it up at a later time. Doing it as scum though is her not trying at all.

[ofrhz]

@ofrhz gamma is due for prodding

Prodding

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 2.6

Alonzo (4):

Enigma, ruru, skitter30, Vex Vience

(L-2)

the worst (1):

Gamma Emerald

ruru (0):

BuJaber (0):

Enigma (0):

ejjinami (0):

Creature (0):

Gamma Emerald (4):

Creature, Bujaber, Alonzo, the worst

(L-2)

skitter30 (0):

Vex Vience (0):

Not Voting (1):

ejjinami

With

10

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.
Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-10-02 10:30:00)

Other:

- skitter30 V/LA Fridays and Saturdays
- skitter30 V/LA until Wednesday morning
- Gamma Emerald has been prodded
- ejjinami still needs to be replaced :c If you know anyone looking for a game, let them know

[ruru]

maybe it's just bujaber+tw