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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:51 am

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Teehee
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:53 am

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In post 48, Enigma wrote:It’s likely that you might have experience with such setups. I’m pretty meh towards early reads anyways
experience with semi-open setups like this one or c9++ or similar?
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In post 37, Almost50 wrote:Early *serious* read alert: Vex is likely town. I did the exact same thing (speculating about what scum might have picked) when I played this setup for the first time. It's not a *strong* TR bc there is a scum motive to do it (and I'd really rather not speaking of that right now) but I'd like to think of him as a townie for a starting point.
Agree with this. But I do think setup spec isn't too relevant at this point, it's wildly guessing and even if we were to agree on the number of PRs we wouldn't do anything with it for a while.


@Vex Because if you would be a new player we could read bad reasoning as newbie reasoning :)
bad reasoning from me is just bad reasoning or me underthinking something
not because im new
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:54 am

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In post 48, Enigma wrote:It’s likely that you might have experience with such setups. I’m pretty meh towards early reads anyways
There is a chance* instead of likely.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:57 am

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also question
how would my experience (or lack there of) change anything about tring me?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:57 am

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In post 53, Vex Vience wrote:also question
how would my experience (or lack there of) change anything about tring me?
with this type of setup*
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:58 am

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Anyways I got my page tops from ofrhz and I’m satisfied so I better stop refreshing this thread continuously
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:00 am

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= I'd feel like I'd be more forgiving to newbies who don't really put forward reads or play unconventionally, while I'd expect less so from experienced players, but that's me
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:04 am

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VOTE COUNT 1.1
Almost50 (0):

HeWhoSwims (0):

Skygazer (2):
Vex Vience, Almost50
ruru (2):
skitter30, Enigma
Antihero (0):

ManWithNoName (0):

Enigma (0):

FrankJaeger (0):

Creature (1):
Skygazer
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skitter30 (0):

Vex Vience (1):
HeWhoSwims

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ruru, Antihero, ManWithNoName, FrankJaeger, Creature, Gamma Emerald

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:10 am

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In post 56, HeWhoSwims wrote:= I'd feel like I'd be more forgiving to newbies who don't really put forward reads or play unconventionally, while I'd expect less so from experienced players, but that's me
thats fair
im somewhat experienced at any rate
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:11 am

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ive played enough to know what im doing at the very least
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:51 am

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Hey guys I'm traitor no shoot pls

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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:53 am

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Also how about we stop talking about how many prs we think scum can claim
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:55 am

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VOTE: HeWhoSwims

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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:56 am

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@mod VLA until Wednesday.


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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:57 am

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In post 61, ruru wrote:Also how about we stop talking about how many prs we think scum can claim
y? do u have anything ud rather discuss?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:09 am

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In post 44, Enigma wrote:
In post 40, skitter30 wrote:
In post 37, Almost50 wrote:Early *serious* read alert: Vex is likely town. I did the exact same thing (speculating about what scum might have picked) when I played this setup for the first time. It's not a *strong* TR bc there is a scum motive to do it (and I'd really rather not speaking of that right now) but I'd like to think of him as a townie for a starting point.
yeah i agree overall
Even considering that he’s an alt?
him being an alt doesn't change that his thought process is pretty townie
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 61, ruru wrote:Also how about we stop talking about how many prs we think scum can claim
why not? they already know how many prs town has; this convo doesn't change that

i think overall there's *better* things to talk about than setup spec, but i don't think it's detrimental to anything at this stage either, and i think the setup spec is helping bring the game out of rvs anyways
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:16 am

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I think it's like actively antitown because it informs scum's decision of what to claim
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:22 am

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@ruru: Scum can't claim a TPR bc I rolled ALL TPRs (with the exception of Creature's IC). :P

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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:24 am

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Also, what do you think about my case on Sky? I think it's very convincing and I would appreciate your vote there. Thank you.

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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:25 am

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it depends on how many modifiers scum chose but i think fake-claiming in this setup as scum is kinda silly s there's a fairly decent chance they'll claim a pr that actually exists (although it's safer for scum to fake-claim in a setup where an ic has been revealed i think given that they know what one of the prs are already)

(also i suppose i ought to mention that the one and only time i was wrong in mylo was in stack-the-deck two games ago where i lynched for someone faking a goon-cop claim because i thought that was much, much, much more likely to come from scum; turns out they were lying but they were a townie who decided it was a good idea to fake-claim in mylo in an open setup for reasons unknown to me)

idk overall i don't think it really informs scum that much; i don't think it's anti-town but it think post rvs there are better things to talk about because speculating doesn't lead to concrete conclusions either way without scumflips and/or multiple pr flips
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:38 am

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In post 69, Almost50 wrote:Also, what do you think about my case on Sky? I think it's very convincing and I would appreciate your vote there. Thank you.
Okay fine, just for you

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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:09 am

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In post 66, skitter30 wrote:
In post 61, ruru wrote:Also how about we stop talking about how many prs we think scum can claim
why not? they already know how many prs town has; this convo doesn't change that

i think overall there's *better* things to talk about than setup spec, but i don't think it's detrimental to anything at this stage either, and i think the setup spec is helping bring the game out of rvs anyways
what better things do u have to discuss?
im open to hearing them
im just discussing setup spec bc i got nothing better to discuss
In post 67, ruru wrote:I think it's like actively antitown because it informs scum's decision of what to claim
explain, scum already know what they took and how many prs there could be.
In post 69, Almost50 wrote:Also, what do you think about my case on Sky? I think it's very convincing and I would appreciate your vote there. Thank you.
what case?
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:11 am

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also enigma are u just generally against alts?
im getting that feeling from u
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:19 am

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In post 73, Vex Vience wrote:also enigma are u just generally against alts?
im getting that feeling from u
Nah doesn't bother me so much, meta only takes you so far when scumhunting
In post 67, ruru wrote:I think it's like actively antitown because it informs scum's decision of what to claim
Whilst I don't think its super productive, agree with Vex its fine to boot us out of RVS. I wouldn't say its helping scum unless people are literally softclaiming their TPRs, in which case helping scum CC is the least of our worries...
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