Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[skitter30]

ruru can you explain that again because i'm not really following what you're trying to say?

[ruru]

so, irrel is doing the "lynch me now" thing

I think it's >rand scum because it can come from {scum, tilted town} but it can't come from rational town because rational town would want a scumflip today at all costs so that alonzo can generate true innos

[Irrelephant11]

Oh, yes. I agree I am not being rational town rn

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 3.16

Alonzo (0):

Performer (0):

ruru (0):

BuJaber (4):

Irrelephant11, skitter30, Alonzo, Performer

(L-1)

Enigma (1):

BuJaber

Irrelephant11 (0):

skitter30 (0):

Korina (0):

No Kill (0):

Not Voting (3):

Enigma, Korina, ruru

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to kill.
Day 3 ends in (expired on 2018-10-16 07:30:00)

Other:

- skitter30 V/LA Fridays and Saturdays

[skitter30]

i don't think he's asking to be lynched now? he's asking to be sorted before he gets lynched (in the future) since he feels like he's on the bottom of everyone's scumlists without a case on him

like i don't really think he's expecting/acting like he wants to get lynched today

i also pretty much always immediately read ate as tilted town; that's the kind of thing i need a delay of a few days irl to try to read so i'm not really going to commit either way to that rn

but yeah i mean i kinda agree he obviously isn't being rational!town rn but why are you going to scum over tilted!town?

[Irrelephant11]

People have lined me up as the next lynch regardless of BuJ's flip so my only point was that if it is ever helpful to flip me I would not stop it and would even prefer it
I was not thinking about PRs' ability to gamesolve, just the fact that I don't want to either *be here* or *replace out*

I should probably get over myself though because at this rate I am going way down in nightkill equity and then when I resist my lynch tomorrow I'll look scummy

So I promise that if I'm here tomorrow I'll be super reasonable again

[BuJaber]

There's such a thing as PoE ele..

For me personally I had two strong TRs, and there are 2 un-cc'd PR claims. From what I can see everyone else is in a similar position, blame PR-setups, not the players. People will always take the lazy route (mechanically sorting people) than actual engagement. But in a lot of setups that strategy is optimal. Take ruru in this game for example.. he is either bg or he suicided as scum.. why waste any effort in sorting her?

[ruru]

i don't think he's asking to be lynched now? he's asking to be sorted before he gets lynched (in the future) since he feels like he's on the bottom of everyone's scumlists without a case on him

like i don't really think he's expecting/acting like he wants to get lynched today

i also pretty much always immediately read ate as tilted town; that's the kind of thing i need a delay of a few days irl to try to read so i'm not really going to commit either way to that rn

but yeah i mean i kinda agree he obviously isn't being rational!town rn but why are you going to scum over tilted!town?

okay I kind of interpreted it as him asking to be wagoned now (asking people to vote him, saying he doesn't want to be left to lylo, etc.)

I may have made tilt sound like a binary thing, but it's not: I can imagine situations where he's as tilted as his posts convey, and yet he's still aware that lynching scum today is extremely important, and so he would hold back from posting like this

being able to rule out those situations makes it somewhat more likely to be scum ate (although I think it's more

bad

than scummy, I do think it's slightly scummy)

I don't think I'm unreasonably biased against self-pushing/voting either: see AP in purgatory where I started out scumreading him but I thought it was a serious towntell contextually

[BuJaber]

Since this looks to be my last post.. the optimal lynch order tomorrow is actually enigma > performer > ele, assuming both ruru and alonzo are dead. Meaning alonzo should block one of them.

[Irrelephant11]

UNVOTE:
I'm sorry this is probably a bad choice but I'm townreading that post

[Irrelephant11]

ehh I'll probably re-vote him soon
ruru this is probably your last day phase? Any thing you want to add before the phase ends?

[ruru]

"I hate this game"

[Performer]

Again, buj, what sense does it make for scum perf to post a case on enigma (who you think is scum), vote him, and you vote him... this is looking like you think I am possibly teamed with enigma. you've repeatedly implied I'm scum perf trying to bus scum enigma.

And somehow you're saying both claimed prs die on 1 night phase? What in the world?

[Irrelephant11]

ruru I can't tell if that is your last words or you making fun of me

So I guess I'm still wondering if you have anything to add since you're either tonight's kill or idk scum are in this for the WIFOM I guess?

[Irrelephant11]

I'm scumreading Performer more than I am BuJaber
But ehhh it's probably a bad idea to move a wagon this late in the game day?

[Irrelephant11]

Yes it's a bad idea
okay
VOTE: BuJaber

[BuJaber]

@Perf - I know my writing is not the best but how could you possibly understand my post that way?

You can't have 3 lynches in one day phase either.. so why did I put 3 names there huh? Why don't you ask that question too?

[Irrelephant11]

I know my writing is not the best but how could you possibly understand my post that way?

yeah this question is extremely fair

[ruru]

those are my last words (the things I wanted to say before day end were a couple pages ago)

[Alonzo]

il be around

[Performer]

I'm scumreading Performer more than I am BuJaber
But ehhh it's probably a bad idea to move a wagon this late in the game day?

This just sounds odd. you're thinking I'm scummier, yet you went back to buj.

Of the people on buj's wagon that have behaved the fishiest, it's you.

[Enigma]

I'm scumreading Performer more than I am BuJaber
But ehhh it's probably a bad idea to move a wagon this late in the game day?

This just sounds odd. you're thinking I'm scummier, yet you went back to buj.

Of the people on buj's wagon that have behaved the fishiest, it's you.

Help me sort you and elephant

If BuJ flips red, then what is your read on elephant?
If BuJ flips green, then what is your read on elephant?

[Performer]

I liked the eji predecessor for town & how he was doing for the nm lynch.
Taking in that a50 stated buj & irrel were probably scum, and trying to work together with others' reads, I've been reevaluating my read on irrel today.

I'm not liking him for town.
In fact, I think you, irrel, and buj are the lynches today. Korina follows into that path as well, as I can't trust him as much as the remaining others.

[Enigma]

Uhh putting a lynch pool of three people with <24 hrs to deadline and L-1 on BuJ is just illogical.

Here is the question again since you didn't really answer it:
1. Do you think scum!elephant would bus BuJ
2. Do you think scum!elephant would drive a mislynch on BuJ

[skitter30]

People have lined me up as the next lynch regardless of BuJ's flip so my only point

was that if it is ever helpful to flip me I would not stop it and would even prefer it

I was not thinking about PRs' ability to gamesolve, just the fact that I don't want to either *be here* or *replace out*

I should probably get over myself though because at this rate I am going way down in nightkill equity and then when I resist my lynch tomorrow I'll look scummy

So I promise that if I'm here tomorrow I'll be super reasonable again

so i super much empathize with this sentiment but i've seen scum use this to get me townread them :/ (ep in american presidents; part of why i townread him day5).