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Post Post #2975 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:45 am

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In post 2959, Irrelephant11 wrote:UNVOTE:
I'm sorry this is probably a bad choice but I'm townreading that post
not super following why that was a townie post tbh
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Post Post #2976 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 2973, Enigma wrote:Uhh putting a lynch pool of three people with <24 hrs to deadline and L-1 on BuJ is just illogical.

Here is the question again since you didn't really answer it:
1. Do you think scum!elephant would bus BuJ
2. Do you think scum!elephant would drive a mislynch on BuJ
To answer both questions - absolutely .

The problem is, this is d3 so what scum does in terms of bussing or driving mislynching...the chances for both are just as possible. In fact the site meta I've seen is that scum busses. And if this turns out to be scum bussing scum, then we might as well have them help us to victory.

Why would you ask me this though , enigma... I wouldn't think you're that new to how scum play in FM.
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Post Post #2977 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:58 am

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In post 2976, Performer wrote:
In post 2973, Enigma wrote:Uhh putting a lynch pool of three people with <24 hrs to deadline and L-1 on BuJ is just illogical.

Here is the question again since you didn't really answer it:
1. Do you think scum!elephant would bus BuJ
2. Do you think scum!elephant would drive a mislynch on BuJ
To answer both questions - absolutely .

The problem is, this is d3 so what scum does in terms of bussing or driving mislynching...the chances for both are just as possible. In fact the site meta I've seen is that scum busses. And if this turns out to be scum bussing scum, then we might as well have them help us to victory.

Why would you ask me this though , enigma... I wouldn't think you're that new to how scum play in FM.
This is not about how a generic player would bus or mislynch as both as possible, and this is obvious in my questions. This is about elephant specifically and how you read him.

Me telling you why I'm asking doesn't help the purpose but this isn't getting anywhere so meh ... your answer could provide some indication about if you know what BuJ would flip, and would provide also insight if TvT, TvS or SvS with elephant, based on the flip of BuJ.
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Post Post #2978 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:59 am

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Not sure if you dodging questions and redirecting back to me, or if you just didn't understand
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Post Post #2979 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:07 am

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If you're saying what I think about them being tvt, svs, tvs, svt, right now I'm thinking svs.
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Post Post #2980 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:08 am

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Hm. I thought it was fairly clear when I provided my scumreads earlier
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Post Post #2981 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:31 pm

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I'm bored

VOTE: bujaber
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Post Post #2982 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:37 pm

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VOTE COUNT 3.17
Alonzo (0):

Performer (0):

ruru (0):

BuJaber (5):
skitter30, Alonzo, Performer, Irrelephant11, ruru
HAMMER

Enigma (1):
BuJaber
Irrelephant11 (0):

skitter30 (0):

Korina (0):

No Kill (0):


Not Voting (2):
Enigma, Korina

With
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5
to kill.
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Post Post #2983 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:39 pm

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BuJaber has been killed!


He was a
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Post Post #2984 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:08 pm

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You wake up in the morning to see that everyone is still alive and well.



DAY 4 HAS BEGUN



VOTE COUNT 4.0
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Post Post #2985 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:38 pm

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Alonzo - who did you target?
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Post Post #2986 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:52 pm

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VOTE: irrel
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Post Post #2987 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:22 pm

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In post 2985, Performer wrote:Alonzo - who did you target?
Who did you target?
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Post Post #2988 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:32 pm

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so i was looking through anti's (admittedly short) iso and i noticed that he was kinda protecting sky (now performer)

more interestingly he was chainsawing sky by attacking a50 when a50 called her a traitor

he also scumread a50 for finding mwnn (not_mafia) scummy for being on vla

so overall i think this is slightly +scum for performer

i haven't gone through bujaber's iso yet
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Post Post #2989 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:36 pm

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bujaber kept defending sky's slot for being too scummy to be scum

I thought it was dubious in terms of his own alignment but I'm not sure how much that says about the slot: it might mean he was traitor-reading it (which doesn't necessarily mean it's actually traitor), it might mean he was trying to leave a weird associative (and I know bujaber likes to mess with associatives as scum), it might mean he had tmi on a townslot, etc.
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Post Post #2990 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:38 pm

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both bujaber + antihero defending sky on that basis is a little strange tho

ruru if you were scum and took only one mod, what would you take?
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Post Post #2991 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:39 pm

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sky's behavior doesn't make much sense as recruited traitor tho?
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Post Post #2992 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:42 pm

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probably daytalk because I feel like the other mods are probably quantifiably bad to take
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Post Post #2993 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:44 pm

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do we think mwnn+antihero take daytalk though?

mwnn was busy irl, antihero was either busy or stopped wanting to play the game because his partner was afk (doesn't seem too unlikely, I've experienced that feeling)

I feel like that's not a pair that values daytalk above giving town a pr
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Post Post #2994 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:47 pm

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i feel like recruit traitor tbh
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Post Post #2995 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:47 pm

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like i take daytalk nearly always but i don't think that pair does
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Post Post #2996 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:48 pm

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it's possible that one of them was the traitor to begin with and got recruited and weren't even involved in that decision tho
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Post Post #2997 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:53 pm

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oh, right
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Post Post #2998 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:57 pm

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also bujaber trying to get enigma lynched is +town to enigma imo
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Post Post #2999 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:24 pm

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does it even matter what order we lynch in

I guess it does, if scum want to nk then we get an inno on someone in the scumpool

so I guess theoretically we should lynch whoever is least useful to gamesolving? which is probably performer since he hasn't read the game

but then there's also that irrel is the player I'm most worried about convincing everyone he's town after I'm shot, and I'm also scumreading him most
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