Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[Alonzo]

alonzo, what exactly did you think my role did?

Blocked Nk's on your chosen target..

Why do you ask? did I seem unclear somewhere?

[ruru]

so you know I would die instead, but you misread that it wouldn't stop the game from ending?

[skitter30]

/le sigh

[Alonzo]

so you know I would die instead, but you misread that it wouldn't stop the game from ending?

I momentarily forgot the game would end for scum! me there, because I'm not scum and havn't been thinking like that....

Why dont you think we should mechanically solve this 100% right now ruru? cos skitters streak?

[ruru]

I don't care about skitter's streak, I care about the possibility of you being scum and the offchance of you roleblocking me if I lynch town today

[Alonzo]

I'v already said if you are scum here ruru then GG.

Again to emphasise the point scum!me doesnt need to sit here for three hours fighting with skitter, I could have just lynched Enigma.

Honestly Skitter rolling town! will be the best thing that could happen RN, but the longer she resists her town win condition the worse it looks for her...

[Alonzo]

A rb on you in this situation would be a gamethrow as you call it..

[ruru]

but it could be a town-motivated lie, you could be saying you're going to rb skitter/enigma 100% of the time to see what I do to get reads or whatever

I don't necessarily think you're doing that but I might do it in your position so it's like not impossible which is why I want to lynch scum today

if you're telling the truth that you rb skitter/enigma 100% of the time then the order makes zero difference to you, it's a mechanical solve either way

[Alonzo]

Yes, in a vacuum thats true, but Skitters refusal to lay down is telling given she already conceeded theres nothing she can/will do to prevent scum you winning this ruru..

[ruru]

based on some comments she's made out of game I don't think it's really out of character for her

like it's maybe slightly scummy or policy-worthy but I don't actually think she has a higher chance of flipping scum than enigma

[skitter30]

no i'm not laying down because self-voting in mylo is dumb irregardless of my alignment

[Alonzo]

Enigma shouldn't resist a skitter lynch as either alignment if hes got his head on straight. But im telling you now, theres no way scum! Enigma can win with me alive barring him being the JOAT somehow, which skitter assures me isn't possible at all.

Scum! skitter can still talk you around given one more day and on account to how open you have been to her throughout this game...

Even If I RB her and theres no kill.. she still has a chance of talking you into disbelieving me... amirite? you say 100% but do you mean it? it sounds like you don't which scares me...

[skitter30]

i mean from my pov if it's not enigma it's just you

like everything you're saying depends on you being town

[skitter30]

and i thought i had a solid reason for townreading you but apparently i don't because you didn't know what a bg does

i still think it's just enigma tbh tho

[ruru]

Even If I RB her and theres no kill.. she still has a chance of talking you into disbelieving me... amirite? you say 100% but do you mean it? it sounds like you don't which scares me...

I mean it, because if you were scum you would have just shot someone and ended the game, like it actually would 100% confirm her as scum

[skitter30]

yeah scum!me just loses in ruru/alonzo/me since alonzo becomes conftown by virtue of the game not ending

i ahven't actually thought out all the various three-ways

[ruru]

so you know I would die instead, but you misread that it wouldn't stop the game from ending?

I momentarily forgot the game would end for scum! me there, because I'm not scum and havn't been thinking like that....

I think this is actually super townreadable like it's pretty unlikely for scum to not know and it's pretty unlikely for scum to fake

[ruru]

even if he thought I'm literally doctor or something he would have known that he could shoot me and win

[Alonzo]

i mean from my pov if it's not enigma it's just you

like everything you're saying depends on you being town

Again. Scum me would have won with an Enigma Lynch at this point.. There's 0% chance I'm scum..I woulda followed Skitter on the Enigma Vote and won. simple as.

[ruru]

VOTE: enigma

let's just do this

[ruru]

I mean it, because if you were scum you would have just shot someone and ended the game, like it actually would 100% confirm her as scum

I have no reason to lie about this btw, it's in the same category as like someone not quickhammering in lylo

I don't care how pocketed I am if there's hard mechanical evidence

[ruru]

based on some comments she's made out of game I don't think it's really out of character for her

like it's maybe slightly scummy or policy-worthy but I don't actually think she has a higher chance of flipping scum than enigma

also to elaborate on this, she's outright said to me out-of-game that she ~never gets mislynched and that she's proud of her ability to towntell in general or whatever

I think (ignoring the mechanical context of the current situation) being annoyed at getting lynched and spamming the thread about it is a towntell for her

also my reasoning that town who believed 100% in a poe shouldn't mind getting lynched turned out to be wrong on irrel so there's that

[skitter30]

yeah i really shouldn't have gotten that annoyed about it or spammed the thread

sorry

[skitter30]

i'm kinda back at enigma

if i vote and alonzo is scum that's game

i always get really really nervous casting the vote that determines the game

[ruru]

if we agree scum is in {enigma, skitter} it still doesn't matter though for you (unless you believe in a JOAT traitor I guess)

if enigma flips town and there's a tomorrow, I autovote skitter tomorrow, skitter autovotes me tomorrow, and then you hammer one of us, that's like literally the only thing that can happen