Open 740: Hope Plus One [Game over]

[Clemency]

i should probably start playing too, huh
i'll get to that soon

[Sleepless Assassin]

I'm curious what made his quieter game worthy of a vote then. You mentioned he was more wordy in the past. What makes you think alignment is the reason for the change?

Isn't it fairly common for people to find it harder to think of what to write when they're scum, thus leading them to post less?
Of course, not everyone has that problem, but I was guessing it could be the case here.

Depends on the person. Some people find it easier because you're sticking to a narrative as scum where as town you are trying to figure things out. So as town you may be less sure of yourself. Does something from your history with volx make him strike you as being one way or the other? Do you think it's possible it could be as simple as he had more free time in the past than he does now?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because sometimes you gotta shut up and let other people get the flow going. If I keep talking, it'll give some people some excuse to not start up conversations.

I gotta observe what the quieter people are saying now, so I'm limiting myself to one-liners and this explanation-type post for now. Id like to hear your thoughts though.

Ok
Wanna see you talk at some point tho

[bristep123]

Ok, so initial reads.

Volxen - Veering scum, still not keen on the reasoning against Bambi it's a 13 person game, a 4 player wagon isn't the worst thing in the world at this early stage. A bit of fence sitting 'unable to form strong reads' but claimed almost50 as somewhat towny without any reasoning.

Sleepless Assassin - Veering town at this early stage, votes have been thrown out in various direction so there's some confidence and attempts at investigation.

Reaper of Souls - Is he fence-sitting or just very unsure of himself? I'm not sure, couple of names thrown out but no strong opinions put out there yet. Neutral veering scum, thought the removal of the RVS was weird when he had no reads to follow it up with.

ofrhz - right now town, quite fast and loose with posts but doing some good pressing/probing. If I'm wrong there then he's a confident scum player to play that way.

Gamma Emerald - neutral right now, nothing there screams scum but is questioning others but not really offering much substance right now

Egix96 - town, questioning reads and also picked up on Reaper's removal of his random first vote.

DS - No strong read on them at this point. Did feel the Bambi vote was a little weak but could just be a bad read or all they've got to go on right now.

davesaz - No read yet, not much of substance at this point.

Clemency - 63 posts since game start and absolutely zero substance. Too much white noise to be scum, so for now I say town.

Bambi - All over the place, I don't know where to start. Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now. Town.

Almost50 - veering scum right now, but not strong. Again another that pointed at Bambi for voting for him, but since the vote was for him it doesn't read as much as the others who highlighted it. Also some posts I can't tell if are serious so that could be deliberate.

Adelbert - Has posted twice, both times a vote with no reasoning. Isn't participating in the game, votes without reasons can be early and random but also might be scum trying to hide (and might have done so in a busier game).

Had a real long play gap as I mentioned before, so I know the history/play style of nobody, just got instinct at this point.

So,

Unvote Sleepless Assassin
Vote Volxen

[Clemency]

Clemency - 63 posts since game start and absolutely zero substance. Too much white noise to be scum, so for now I say town.

glad someone said it
screw that clemency guy, he spams way too much

[Sleepless Assassin]

A spammy posting style is a bad reason to town read someone. That's a good post otherwise though.

[Bambietta Basterbine]

Because sometimes you gotta shut up and let other people get the flow going. If I keep talking, it'll give some people some excuse to not start up conversations.

I gotta observe what the quieter people are saying now, so I'm limiting myself to one-liners and this explanation-type post for now. Id like to hear your thoughts though.

Ok
Wanna see you talk at some point tho

Getting Bristep involved was worth the wait, even though I got bored. If you have something specific you want to ask me, ask away.

Let's pretend it's a dating SIM, Gamma. Try to max relationship.

Status: 7% (Acquaintance)

[BuJaber]

Vote Count 1.5:

Bambietta Basterbine (3):

Gamma Emerald, volxen, DS

Volxen (3):

ofrhz, Egix96, bristep123

Gamma Emerald (1):

davesaz

Adelbert Steiner (1):

Almost50

ReaperOfSouls (1):

Sleepless Assassin

ofrhz (1):

Adelbert Steiner

Not Voting (3):

Clemency,
Bambietta Basterbine, ReaperOfSouls

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-25 20:00:00)

[Egix96]

Depends on the person. Some people find it easier because you're sticking to a narrative as scum where as town you are trying to figure things out. So as town you may be less sure of yourself. Does something from your history with volx make him strike you as being one way or the other? Do you think it's possible it could be as simple as he had more free time in the past than he does now?

Well yes, I did say that not everyone posts less as scum. That last point does seem plausible, seeing as he's not the only person who's been lurking so far . Besides, it's not as if I can give him any more than a slight lean either way based on so little content.

I think it's best if I go read Watchmen now, it might give me some useful insight.

[Egix96]

0 posts in 6 hours? Never done before
Btw I've just finshed reading the first Day of that Watchmen game. I think it really helps to read the actual thread and not just volxen's ISO because it's important to see why he was being scumread.
Disappointingly, it hasn't done much to change my read on him tho

[ofrhz]

Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.

Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.

Gut scumreading this

Ok, so initial reads.

<snip>

Bambi - All over the place, I don't know where to start. Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now. Town.

This is an interesting read

[Sleepless Assassin]

0 posts in 6 hours? Never done before
Btw I've just finshed reading the first Day of that Watchmen game. I think it really helps to read the actual thread and not just volxen's ISO because it's important to see why he was being scumread.
Disappointingly, it hasn't done much to change my read on him tho

Was he less active there? When was the game? When did you play with him as town?

_____________

V/LA until Saturday night

I may be able to check in around this time tomorrow if it's not too much to read. Otherwise I'm an empty slot for two days. Sorry.

[bristep123]

Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.

Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.

Gut scumreading this

Ok, so initial reads.

<snip>

Bambi - All over the place, I don't know where to start. Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now. Town.

This is an interesting read

Really? Interesting how, what have I bumbled my way across?

[davesaz]

Because sometimes you gotta shut up and let other people get the flow going. If I keep talking, it'll give some people some excuse to not start up conversations.

I gotta observe what the quieter people are saying now, so I'm limiting myself to one-liners and this explanation-type post for now. Id like to hear your thoughts though.

Ok
Wanna see you talk at some point tho

Are you making a conscious effort to act differently this game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Differently to what?

[Bambietta Basterbine]

Oh, we're finally active again. Neat.

[Almost50]

It's so sad BuJaber has more posts than half the players list

[Bambietta Basterbine]

Speaking of activity, we bout to prod a bitch.

Get out your sticks bois. Mister Naked Voting Adelbert is in prodding range.

[ofrhz]

Re-quoting these posts for context

Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.

Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum

, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon.

DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons

, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.

So you think DS and volxen may be shading Bambi here, that's fine. However, the phrase "paint Bambi as scum" implies that you think Bambi is scum's designated mislynch of the day or something.

I think in order to organically form a read like this one, you need to be townreading Bambi with some confidence.

Bambi -

All over the place, I don't know where to start.

Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now.

Town.

This isn't a very good reason to call someone Town. The reason why I have an issue with your Bambi read in particular (as opposed to say, your townread on Clemency) is because at least your tr on clemency was based on tone. Also the bolded bits are slightly contradictory.

Compare your Bambi read with a couple others:

Gamma Emerald - neutral right now, nothing there screams scum but is questioning others but not really offering much substance right now

davesaz - No read yet, not much of substance at this point.

Gamma and dave both have fewer posts, but in terms of actual content, I believe they've already contributed more content to the game than Bambi has so far. So I guess it's interesting they're null while Bambi is town.

Maybe a little too early to say, but I think it's unlikely bristep and volxen are scum together.

[ofrhz]

0 posts in 6 hours? Never done before
Btw I've just finshed reading the first Day of that Watchmen game. I think it really helps to read the actual thread and not just volxen's ISO because it's important to see why he was being scumread.
Disappointingly, it hasn't done much to change my read on him tho

Was he less active there? When was the game? When did you play with him as town?

_____________

V/LA until Saturday night

I may be able to check in around this time tomorrow if it's not too much to read. Otherwise I'm an empty slot for two days. Sorry.

I think it's probably better to hold off on explaining metareads on volxen in greater detail until the guy posts more in the game.

[Almost50]

Greetings, Almost50 why do you still vote for yourself?

VOTE: Almost50

SCUM POST.

VOTE: Adelbert

My bad! I scared him off by catching him so soon.

[volxen]

I'm bored

Who wants to help me LAL? We can start with volxen

I find it a bit curious that you want to wagon me, but yet you don't seem to really have any questions for me or want to engage with me (beyond the single question that you asked me in post 200).

I was primarily interested in wagoning you because you were obviously present on site yet not producing much readable content

Besides, it’s hard to ask you questions when you’ve only made two posts, one of which was responding to me. I would’ve asked you for your reads next, but I see you’ve already supplied those.

Regarding reads, I don't feel there's enough content yet to form strong reads, but so far Almost50 is coming across as somewhat towny

Why?

Regarding Bambi, as I mentioned before I didn't like the PR speculation, and I'm hard pressed to find a pro-town motivation in talking about it, even in jest.

I also found it a bit suspect how she hoped onto Almost50's wagon and brought him up to four votes so early on in the game.

What’s wrong the bolded? Wagons tend to form early to generate pressure, no?

My read of Almost50 is not terribly strong, but I am gut townleaning him at the moment based on tone and his interactions with other slots. I will definitely reevaluate of my read of him as the game progresses and he produces more content, but for now he is a light townlean.

I'm suspicious of Bambi's vote for Almost50 because she admitted herself that she was just going with the flow in voting for him:

I like that honesty, my minion. The Majority seem to be going for Almost, so we shall do the same for now. Keep a keen eye for scummy behaviour.

VOTE: Almost50

Why vote for him and bring him over halfway to lynch if she is not even individually scumreading him? I get that people sheep as town, but I'm always suspicious of "going with the flow" votes.

You were voting for Egix before you voted for me. What are your thoughts on Egix currently?

[ofrhz]

You were voting for Egix before you voted for me. What are your thoughts on Egix currently?

Leaning town - Egix reading your last scumgame is a little more likely to come from town than scum imo

Read on bristep?

[Almost50]

Bambietta is actually a he. he is a Vice Cop though, and he's working undercover, disguised as a female working the streets. He might've gone insane though. The word in the HQ is he is slaughtering some of those unfortunate should, and even attacking his colleagues isn't beyond him. His profile says he's been showing signs of sadism, so don't anybody trust him. Chief of police is calling upon Bambietta's captain to recall him from the streets and have him take a psychology reevaluation test, but I hear the captain is also afraid for his own well being he's reluctant to convey the instructions.

[Gamma Emerald]

I read games for meta as both alignments