Open 742: C9++ (Game Over)

[LolWagons]

Started as a wagon to ensure pressure. But lol hasn't given me a reason to remove my vote. Quite the opposite.

Well the important thing is you tried to contribute.

[LolWagons]

I get A50's case on me, or the logic of it anyways. I think its daft, like I don't think its that scummy to vote a null read with a wagon already on it than to vote a scum read with 0 votes. If I felt like I had more town pull, like if I had led a lynch on scum on a previous day or town trusted me more, then I could see the logic. But I clearly don't have pull here, and that's fine. You don't get to be the leader in every game (hard as I might try).

But to vote a null read with 3 days until deadline and a wagon already formed? Meh.

[LolWagons]

I think Reaper's last post alone is probably more indicative of an anti-town alignment than what I have done so far but then again I'm biased.

[LolWagons]

My biggest issue with A50 is honestly the wordiness and fluff, or signal to noise ratio in his posts, and the fact he keeps making mistakes when typing out posts. If you're truly hellbent on figuring out who scum is do you really forget to rule out an innocent? Do you really forget your scumread was a replacement for your last scumread? I don't think so.

It would maybe be different if he had the activity level of Clemency and did that, because then the effort would be consistent within the slot. Low word count, sparse posts, maybe someone who isn't really checked in. But with A50, he is posting often and is very wordy with many of his posts. So it looks like someone who is putting a lot of effort into posting but maybe not as much into scumhunting.

It needs to be noted if this was once it wouldn't be a big deal. People make mistakes. But it is a pattern.

[Dunnstral]

I think Reaper's last post alone is probably more indicative of an anti-town alignment than what I have done so far but then again I'm biased.

I agree

I also think Egix last post is indicative of an anti-town alignment

I'd like to get one of those two

[LolWagons]

I'd hop on either but think I would prefer RoS.

For anyone who has seriously not considered RoS...that ISO is super bad. Even if you think I'm scum just do me a favor and humor me, and look at it. It is low post count but it is not null.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

I'm not thinking a50 is scum either so

[LolWagons]

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Bonzai

[MariaR]

VOTE: Reaper
For your sake I hope this is correct

[Dunnstral]

[mocking voice] For your sake I hope this is correct

[davesaz]

Votecount 1.12

LolWagons(5)

~ Gamma Emerald(43), Almost50(57), ReaperOfSouls(8), Clemency(38), 0verki11(13)

ReaperOfSouls(3)

~ Dunnstral(38), LolWagons(54), MariaR(27)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Persivul(38)

Egix96(1)

~ Lovebird(26)

Dunnstral(1)

~ Egix96(23)

Clemency(1)

~ Gnelf(9)

Almost50(1)

~ PenguinPower(8)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-08 19:30:58)

[Persivul]

VOTE: Reaper

[Gamma Emerald]

How are you content to be on a wagon like that gamma ewwwwwww

Pal I started it
Why no doubt in your mind that I could be scum? The way you wrote this tells me you think I’m Town.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Peguin, Gmelf, Egil, Lovebirb:

join a wagon or case your current vote

[MariaR]

[mocking voice] For your sake I hope this is correct

Having your fun cornel I see.

How are you content to be on a wagon like that gamma ewwwwwww

Pal I started it
Why no doubt in your mind that I could be scum? The way you wrote this tells me you think I’m Town.

When have I read you wrong.

[Dunnstral]

Also, Dunnstral's on this wagon and you guys know I'm not a fan of him.

Got any reasoning that isn't just "I voted for you"?

Okey dokey then, it's time for me to get my big boy pants on and make an effort to engage with you here.

VOTE: Egix96

This guy is vaguely scummy

Now that quite a lot has happened since you wrote this, do you still stand by it? Could you elaborate on this read?

VOTE: Egix96

This guy is vaguely scummy

With only 2 posts?

With the rate this game is moving, sure

Why?

Because I said so Lovebird

You obviously didn't have a concrete reason at the time.

I'm not allowed to have vague scummy feelings on someone for bad voting on page 3?
Do I have to firmly believe what I'm saying to place a vote? Why not go hound ejix or whatever his name is :)


And 1 scum point is nothing, you need 7

How can you say it's 'bad voting' when a) I voted the Cleric slot WELL before the IC reveal and b) I don't know if you're town or not?

I think Sherma is towny. Other site, you can get votecounts without mod. So, it makes sense to ask. Plus, shows he's looking at the thread and wants to play :)

This is a bad read btw

Shema doesn't deserve votes

What changed?

This post reads as trying to justify their push after the fact rather than having that as a rea doriginally, when they could have just said they were rvsing or something

[ReaperOfSouls]

[ReaperOfSouls]

So when I flip town, the explanation for the connections between some of you will be?

[LolWagons]

So when I flip town, the explanation for the connections between some of you will be?

What connections? Who's scum together?

[Almost50]

I get A50's case on me, or the logic of it anyways. I think its daft, like I don't think its that scummy to vote a null read with a wagon already on it than to vote a scum read with 0 votes. If I felt like I had more town pull, like if I had led a lynch on scum on a previous day or town trusted me more, then I could see the logic. But I clearly don't have pull here, and that's fine. You don't get to be the leader in every game (hard as I might try).

But to vote a null read with 3 days until deadline and a wagon already formed? Meh.

But that's the point. I was only the SECOND vote on your slot. I didn't vote you AFTER a wagon had formed on you, but rather made that wagon happen.

[Gamma Emerald]

[mocking voice] For your sake I hope this is correct

Having your fun cornel I see.

How are you content to be on a wagon like that gamma ewwwwwww

Pal I started it
Why no doubt in your mind that I could be scum? The way you wrote this tells me you think I’m Town.

When have I read you wrong.

I’m just trying to pick your brain a little. If you think the wagonis bad why not investigate the root of it?
And it’s rare but you have been off on me in the past at least once by your own admission...

[Almost50]

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Bonzai

VOTE: Reaper
For your sake I hope this is correct

VOTE: Reaper

And again.. this is WEIRD! I mean, if this is literally the scum team they've got some ball to do this right after I said what I said.

UNVOTE:

I think I'm reading something backwards!

[Almost50]

Like, right now I need a FLIP to re-tune my reads. This is the OLD read list I had, which I now believe is all messed up.

PenguinPower--------------------IC
Almost50
Clemency
Dunnstral
Gamma Emerald
Persivul
Lovebird
ReaperOfSouls
Egix96

0verki11

MariaR
Gnelf
LolWagons

[ReaperOfSouls]

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Bonzai

VOTE: Reaper
For your sake I hope this is correct

VOTE: Reaper

And again.. this is WEIRD! I mean, if this is literally the scum team they've got some ball to do this right after I said what I said.

UNVOTE:

I think I'm reading something backwards!

This^^^^

[LolWagons]

I get A50's case on me, or the logic of it anyways. I think its daft, like I don't think its that scummy to vote a null read with a wagon already on it than to vote a scum read with 0 votes. If I felt like I had more town pull, like if I had led a lynch on scum on a previous day or town trusted me more, then I could see the logic. But I clearly don't have pull here, and that's fine. You don't get to be the leader in every game (hard as I might try).

But to vote a null read with 3 days until deadline and a wagon already formed? Meh.

But that's the point. I was only the SECOND vote on your slot. I didn't vote you AFTER a wagon had formed on you, but rather made that wagon happen.

You're a goober.

I was saying

I

would prefer to vote a null read with a wagon than a scumread with no wagon, when the following are true:
1) I haven't telegraphed my towniness enough for enough town to trust my wagon and
2) It is close to a lynch