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Post Post #250  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:46 pm

In post 228, Egix96 wrote:It's just that where Guilty says things like 'calling it a "logic leap" to paint Bambi negatively' and 'I find all their [Bambi's] reasoning pretty straightforward.' I feel like he's trying to either defend a scumbuddy or to get on your good side. I'm not really seeing the town motivation for that.


I was/am pushing back on the hydra's Bambi scumread to figure out whether it's a genuine scumread or a reactionary OMGUS, because I'm townreading Bambi. Why don't you see that as town motivated?

And am I wrong about the fact that the hydra was explicitly trying to make Bambi look bad? Like do you actually disagree with the points that I made?

I think BuJaber is town, Bambi is town. Not sure what to make of the hydra slot, a couple of their posts did feel vaguely townie and I like that they were townreading BuJaber as well. At the same time the fact that their two scumreads are the two people who applied pressure to them is pretty lazy
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Post Post #251  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:55 pm

The more I think about it the more I think calling it "an indirect defense of Bambi more than a scum case" is bullshit. It's a case centered on the premise that the hydra's push on Bambi was done for self-serving purposes of discrediting/hyperbolizing rather than genuine town sorting. Yes in effect that works out to also be an indirect defense of Bambi, but the main point was clearly that the hydra's push itself was under scrutiny.

I don't see how you can honestly interpret that as *not* a scumcase. Fabricated scumreads, or scumreads out of an agenda, are scummy behavior. Thats the key point I was making with my . I happen to think Bambi' s town here, but even if I didn't, the logic of that post would still apply.
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Post Post #252  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:51 pm

Votecount 1.1Bambi Jay (1) "Antihero"
"Antihero" (1): Bambi Jay

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Post Post #253  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:50 pm

Woah, plot twist
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Post Post #254  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:30 am

In post 229, Bambi Jay wrote:You gotta think of this game differently, Egi, because otherwise you fall apart.

Ooh, sounds cryptic. Surely it can't be all that different from a regular game, right? I'm not gonna play differently from how I normally do just because it's multiball. I'm just thinking of the Werewolves as being the "true" Mafia team (since they have the KP) while the "Mafia" are really just a trio of Evil Masons as far as I'm concerned.

If anyone other then me or Applejack gets lynched I'll be disappointed.


Why should we restrict the choice of D1 lynch to just two slots so early in the game? That kind of thought is too narrow-minded IMO.
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Post Post #255  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:32 am

In post 231, Clemency wrote:hot take, ashjslfdjghnsporigöasirgunb and bambi are both scum

:igmeou:
I doubt that you seriously, unironically think that.
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Post Post #256  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:42 am

In post 242, Bambi Jay wrote:No, a Promise means a lot to me and I promise you and me aren't scum partners, but I'm not using it to say I'm not scum here otherwise I literally can do that anytime and it's bullshit and unfair to the spirit of the game.

I don't get it. Deception and intrigue are core themes of the Game of Mafia, so how is it BS to say stuff like "I promise that I'm not scum"? It's not as if the phrase "I promise" holds any actual weight in the game anyway. Even if you have personal raisins for not doing it, it's not as if you're gonna get *ahem* od-may illed-kay for angle-way ooting-shay.
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Post Post #257  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:46 am

In post 255, Egix96 wrote:
In post 231, Clemency wrote:hot take, ashjslfdjghnsporigöasirgunb and bambi are both scum

:igmeou:
I doubt that you seriously, unironically think that.

you never know what bambi and asidjehwhgehrbrnekeowhqvgwhrjroroekb3b3g2gtwtqgs could pull off
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Post Post #258  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:50 am

In post 257, Clemency wrote:you never know what bambi and asidjehwhgehrbrnekeowhqvgwhrjroroekb3b3g2gtwtqgs could pull off

Okay, but to me it seemed more like a tinfoil hat theory than an actual, honest opinion.
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Post Post #259  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:57 am

im just looking for excuses to say asjdjdhwbwvhwkekfbbrbehwisiaikqlqlqoaosusuhehehehrgefqy7w828292jdbehwja8w8ai11h
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Post Post #260  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:06 am

In post 250, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 228, Egix96 wrote:It's just that where Guilty says things like 'calling it a "logic leap" to paint Bambi negatively' and 'I find all their [Bambi's] reasoning pretty straightforward.' I feel like he's trying to either defend a scumbuddy or to get on your good side. I'm not really seeing the town motivation for that.


I was/am pushing back on the hydra's Bambi scumread to figure out whether it's a genuine scumread or a reactionary OMGUS, because I'm townreading Bambi. Why don't you see that as town motivated?

And am I wrong about the fact that the hydra was explicitly trying to make Bambi look bad? Like do you actually disagree with the points that I made?

I think BuJaber is town, Bambi is town. Not sure what to make of the hydra slot, a couple of their posts did feel vaguely townie and I like that they were townreading BuJaber as well. At the same time the fact that their two scumreads are the two people who applied pressure to them is pretty lazy

- It simply hadn't occurred to me that that might have been what you were aiming to achieve. Is THAT something I could see as town-motivated? Of course. But did I realise that you might be doing it? Obviously not.

- I can see that ajfe were criticising Bambi's thought process, but it doesn't read to me like their primary purpose was just to shade her, but rather to try and make her reconsider her stance on them.
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Post Post #261  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:02 am

In post 231, Clemency wrote:hot take, ashjslfdjghnsporigöasirgunb and bambi are both scum

Honestly, I want to know how you managed to type an umlaut in your keyboard mash.
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Post Post #262  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:18 am

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Post Post #263  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:08 pm

I decided not to interfere in that stupid hydra discussion. Entirely pointless.

Guilty is overexplaining everything. Bambi is town, hydra IDK. I'm going to find that difficult if they don't sign their posts. Particularly when 3 or 4 of them are attacking Bambi at once.

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Post Post #264  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:45 pm

In post 260, Egix96 wrote:- It simply hadn't occurred to me that that might have been what you were aiming to achieve. Is THAT something I could see as town-motivated? Of course. But did I realise that you might be doing it? Obviously not.


Aight, this is fair.

In post 260, Egix96 wrote:- I can see that ajfe were criticising Bambi's thought process, but it doesn't read to me like their primary purpose was just to shade her, but rather to try and make her reconsider her stance on them.


I can definitely see the latter as well, I guess we had different interpretations what the "primary" purpose was. Even the latter is still vaguely scummy to me though as town should be less concerned with being townread and arguing against scumreads on their slots. However a lot of town players are way too over-defensive in this way, which is why I tried a reach out in

how do you feel about Clemency? I'm not at all impressed with his ISO so far and I agree the "they're both scum" post was empty posting.
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Post Post #265  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:46 pm

In post 264, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm not at all impressed with his ISO so far

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Post Post #266  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:47 pm

hi again VOTE: Clemency

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Post Post #267  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:47 pm

In post 263, rosterfoster wrote:I decided not to interfere in that stupid hydra discussion. Entirely pointless.

Guilty is overexplaining everything. Bambi is town, hydra IDK. I'm going to find that difficult if they don't sign their posts. Particularly when 3 or 4 of them are attacking Bambi at once.

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:?:

bolded/red = everything I've been saying so far this game. You agree entirely with my takes, yet you think I'm scum because I'm "overexplaining" them?
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Post Post #268  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:48 pm

VOTE: Clemency

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Post Post #269  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:54 pm

That entire roster post is iffy.

Also regardless of what GL flips this game I think I will name my next hydra / alt account Town[something].. it's foolproof.
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Post Post #270  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:05 pm

In post 267, GuiltyLion wrote:bolded/red = everything I've been saying so far this game. You agree entirely with my takes, yet you think I'm scum because I'm "overexplaining" them?


My concern is mostly about this:

In post 250, GuiltyLion wrote:I was/am pushing back on the hydra's Bambi scumread to figure out whether it's a genuine scumread or a reactionary OMGUS, because I'm townreading Bambi. Why don't you see that as town motivated?


It reads to me like 'oh look at me I'm being proactive!'

Also this

In post 251, GuiltyLion wrote:Yes in effect that works out to also be an indirect defense of Bambi, but the main point was clearly that the hydra's push itself was under scrutiny.


It's the whole meta-analysis of your own posts which I find a little scummy, not what your conclusions are.

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Post Post #271  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:30 pm

Oh, hey, I'm in this game and have not been replaced despite having no internet last week at all.

I'll read tomorrow.
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Post Post #272  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:58 pm

Oh, hey, I barely missed anything, Day 1 just started!

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Post Post #273  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:59 am

In post 264, GuiltyLion wrote:-snip-

how do you feel about Clemency? I'm not at all impressed with his ISO so far and I agree the "they're both scum" post was empty posting.

He's null for me. S***posting is NAI for Clem as far as I know.
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Post Post #274  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:07 pm

this game should not be this slow on D1 with this many people

I don't agree with rosterfoster (since I was pushing back on Egix when analyzing myself and my own posts) but I don't see it as productive to push further and I can also loosely see how a town!him would read it that way, so I'm waiting to see how he engages with other slots. not sure what else there is to do right now until other players jump in.
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