Open 749 | Vengecop - Over!

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.1

Target	Wagon
Micc (2)	PenguinPower (10), Draco Lucky (12)
BBMolla (2)	BBMolla (14), Dr Worm (15)
Creature (1)	Dannflor (13)
Vedith (1)	Micc (5)
Not Voting (5)	xwing, 0verki11, Vedith, DoubtingThomas, Creature

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-19 21:35:59).

[Creature]

I'll probably play the game only the way it is supposed to be played: through normal scumhunting.

[Vedith]

Actually I changed my mind I like this idea.
Originally thinking Scum would just ignore that person but by the 2nd night if 2 are confirmed town it actually does force their hand.
So I'm okay to do this. I suspect that there will be players who just won't though.

[Vedith]

I'll probably play the game only the way it is supposed to be played: through normal scumhunting.

Scum hunting in 2019

[Dannflor]

Hm. I like where Micc is coming from where we basically give ourselves two lynches or two attempts to kill a consensus scum read if we're wrong the first time. At least that's how I'm understanding him. If we mislynch, the investigation will probably end up coming down to that individual's reads however and who they personally think is scummiest. And that's probably for the best, it prevents scum from trying to influence the consensus reads too much and controlling what the investigations are.

@BBmolla, what are you hoping to get out of self voting in RVS?

[Draco Lucky]

Is a second lynch more +ev than a scum directed nk (presumably on obv!town) + a cop check?

p.edit I guess you're still working that out, too.

I think regardless of whether we build consensus on following town's choice, people should probably indicate who they would prefer to have investigated upon mislynch. I nominate hurt tags

I can see no downside to gathering the extra data.



-U2

[Micc]

In all reality their hand is forced regardless at some point. They can’t leave too many confirmed town players around before POE takes over. So is the group’s decision stronger than one individual’s? Probably I’d think, but that gives scum the ability to plan ahead too.

And obviously scumhunting is the means through which we decide the lynch and any investigation targets. Thanks for the helpful input Creature.

Predit: didn’t read those yet

[Vedith]

I have creature as locktown in the hopes he Town reads me

[Micc]

Hurt tags is probably a decent comprimise between giving enough information to the person making the investigation while making it harder for scum to plan.

[Vedith]

HURT: Draco Lucky

[xwing]

sorry micc, i didnt get what you're saying..
are you suggesting that we should have a consensus target on who we want to investigate?
scum would just kill that guy then right?
sorry didnt really get what you were saying even after multiple reads, can you kindly reword it for me?

@dr worm: what's your plan?

@creature, why is it a great start??

@bbmolla, why the self vote? you need some help there?
VOTE: bbmolla

[Creature]

and that's how to get bored within two pages of game

[Vedith]

I think Xwing is Scum.

[Draco Lucky]

HURT: Draco Lucky

just like this! good job

[Draco Lucky]

-u2 rip

[Vedith]

I'm helping \o/

[Draco Lucky]

I think Xwing is Scum.

why?

-u2

[Vedith]

I think Xwing is Scum.

why?

-u2

Trying to end fun RVS time and trying to look town!

[Creature]

Any RVS beyond 24 hours is excessive imo. What’s your plan for helping to make that happen?

If most of Micc's posts are like this, I wouldn't mind voting him.

[Creature]

They call me DR WORM!!

VOTE: CREATURE
the START is NOT GREAT it"s just OK!!

Seriously?

[xwing]

i dunno with you guys but RVS is the one i find boring..
fun is in solving..
RVS is just unavoidable evil since it's the way to start this game..

[Creature]

OK SOUNDS GOOD!!

VOTE: BBMOLLO

Hopefully this gimmick alt won't cause more trouble than this.

[Micc]

sorry micc, i didnt get what you're saying..
are you suggesting that we should have a consensus target on who we want to investigate?
scum would just kill that guy then right?
sorry didnt really get what you were saying even after multiple reads, can you kindly reword it for me?

I’m just thinking out loud about what the best way to handle the investigation is. Yes, if we come up with a concensus scum are incentivized to kill that player instead of someone else who threatens them. The trade off is that when scum kill the investigated player we have to work with less information the next day.

We can revisit when the lynch is closer though. Hell, the correct strategy might become clear with more game context. This doesn’t have to dominate the early discussion.

Oh geez predits

[Creature]

Any RVS beyond 24 hours is excessive imo. What’s your plan for helping to make that happen?

Well I thought if We solve the game first then do RVS?

That's a great idea.

[Vedith]

Hopefully this gimmick alt won't cause more trouble than this.

In for a treat