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Post Post #200  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:59 pm

In post 177, xwing wrote:for the record, we still have players who haven't posted..

What is your point with this?

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Post Post #201  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:06 pm

Votecount 1.8

TargetWagon
BBMolla
(2)
BBMolla (), Micc ()
Micc
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PenguinPower (), Creature ()
Dannflor
(1)
Draco Lucky ()
xwing
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Dr Worm ()
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(5)
0verki11, Vedith, DoubtingThomas, Dannflor (), xwing ()

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-19 21:35:59).
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Post Post #202  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:08 pm

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Post Post #203  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:39 pm

In post 200, BBmolla wrote:
In post 177, xwing wrote:for the record, we still have players who haven't posted..

What is your point with this?

Non-posting slots hurt the game like a lot, even if scum (see Mumble in Mini 2053 which ended today).
Every man has the right to be an idiot and you are abusing the privilege

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Post Post #204  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:20 pm

In post 194, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 192, Micc wrote:Nothing has stood out as worth pushing so they're low priority. Enough time in that category usually leads to a general town read.


So, what has stood out about the four of us who aren't scummy enough to be in the lynchpool, but have done something to stand out enough to be a priority sort? DT aside because that's obvious.

x-wing's transition from being on and getting off the bbmolla wagon are kinda opposite how I'm reading things. I think rvs selfvoting is pretty NAI in general but that mollas actions from that point onward are scummy. x-wing somewhat defended my vote which doesn't really line up with being off the wagon especially considering he's not pushing elsewhere. I'm not sure what to make of it yet.

Neither you nor overkill had made much posting that I consider serious at the time I posted my reads. There's just not any reason for me to put effort into reading jokes or whatever which means you still need to be sorted.
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Post Post #205  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:11 pm

Molla town
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #206  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:27 pm

In post 196, Dr Worm wrote:I don't APPRECIATE DANNNFLOR and XWINGS unvoting BBMOLL and NOT VOTING new person!! WHY NOT JUST LEAVE VOGE ON BBMOOL FOR PRESSURE?? Why NEED to LOOK like AGREEMENT WITH OTHERS??

wow..seems dr. worm is town..
dont worry will use my vote..im kinda stuck on who though..

@vedith: why is bb town for you?

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Post Post #207  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:34 pm

okay i think i'll go for this slot:
VOTE: overkill

i think you're mostly posting fluff and actively lurking so far..
hope that changes on your wall post..(hope it's not THAT BIG of a wall though..)
how's your read so far?
what do you think of bb?

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Post Post #208  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:41 pm

In post 206, xwing wrote:@vedith: why is bb town for you?


Because I believe when he was L2 scum were on him using poor reason to justify a vote.
Scum are more likely to be aware of all posts in that sense too. Town!molla has less reason to care.

Keep in mind, scum lose out more for focusing town hard in this game, but really want to look town.

Molla votes
Worm votes
both RVS

You vote while making main focus point to your answers.

Dann votes and pushes the focus on being because of what you say.

Micc votes with high focus.

This suggests scum is most likely Dann followed by you.
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #209  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:56 pm

i respectfully disagree..i think it might boil down to play style, but we've had games where we caught scum coz they were just skimming everything..as scum there's no need to solve, especially in this setup having no PRs..so they dont need to analyze as much as town who is trying to find answers..
anyway i'm generally liking this latest post of yours, more detailed and solve-y..i wish you would use your vote though so i know how serious you are being..

what do you mean by focus exactly?
also, i find your assessment a bit unfair, as dann and i voted very early on, while micc got more content to work with..lastly, it assumes bb is town too, which im still not comfy to settle on..the worm was right..i regret moving off the wagon so hastily..but what's done is done..

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Post Post #210  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:03 pm

Firstly, I dont know if this has been addressed, but under no circumstances do we give someone a target to check if they flip town, mafia will just kill them if they are town.

In post 14, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: BBmolla

Self vote rant reeeeeeeeeee. Not a fan of them

In post 26, Creature wrote:I'll probably play the game only the way it is supposed to be played: through normal scumhunting.

Gut says town

In post 42, Vedith wrote:
In post 41, Draco Lucky wrote:
In post 37, Vedith wrote:I think Xwing is Scum.

why?
-u2

Trying to end fun RVS time and trying to look town!

Not needed


In post 74, Vedith wrote:
In post 73, BBmolla wrote:Wont know till I reveal them duh doy


As long as you town read me, that's all that matters anyway.

Dont really like this post either

In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.

Dont discuss targets, just leave them to do it.

In post 176, Dannflor wrote:
In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.

Both these slots are town imo

UNVOTE: BBMolla

He's not quite towny but he's definitely not scum. I just don't see the scum motivation for entering the game with a self vote, drawing all that attention, and then continuing to play the way he's playing. My theory was that it was a play for town cred by acting as if he'd be okay with his lynch because he'd get an investigation. But that doesn't really fit with his play of "looking for reactions" + not reading the thread. It's sloppy play, and I think mafia would be more careful here, particularly since they entered the game with such a risky move.

Vedith, is this where your lock town on BBmolla is coming from? Also, why is Draco a scum read

Please dont tell me this is unironic TWTBAW


I swear there was actually more content but nvm.

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Post Post #211  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:12 pm

@xwing
But all town are PRs. Scum!Molla never brings that attention to the table.

By focus I mean pushing attention to a player for what you believe/portray as scummy.
Dann in
" I like your response"
"I'll join you on BBMolla"

This is basically using you to say he agrees but to not be the primary pusher.

VOTE: Dannflor
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #212  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:48 pm

is really underwhelming. =/

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Post Post #213  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:51 pm

Something we can agree on.
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #214  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:07 am

In post 132, 0verki11 wrote:PLs are anti town as fuck
In post 141, 0verki11 wrote:lynching scum is better than lynching bad town and im always standing by that.
In post 179, 0verki11 wrote:Ill vote later but im not voting for a PL.


"Look at me I'm so town"

VOTE: Overkill

You complain about lack of content in your "wall" but... provide nothing? You don't even vote.

Yes, my post was unironic. If you have a real problem with my logic point it out so we can discuss it. Don't just throw random shade

In post 196, Dr Worm wrote:I don't APPRECIATE DANNNFLOR and XWINGS unvoting BBMOLL and NOT VOTING new person!! WHY NOT JUST LEAVE VOGE ON BBMOOL FOR PRESSURE?? Why NEED to LOOK like AGREEMENT WITH OTHERS??

I didn't know who I wanted to pressure next, and pressuring BB when he's intent on keeping his vote on his own slot feels unproductive too. He's anti-town but not scum.

In post 211, Vedith wrote:But all town are PRs. Scum!Molla never brings that attention to the table.

I'm confused on this train of thought, when did Molla bring town PRs to attention

I follow your case on me, I'm not following why you think it makes xwing scum as well

Your issue is focus and I agree my vote was lazier. But xwing was focused on BB in their vote? I'm not sure what the difference is in your mind behind xwing's questioning and Micc's statement
"By the way, we are never ever EVER lynching Dannflor EVER. So if he is scum, then they've already won and this game is just a formality." - Bacde
"i don't think anyone is anywhere near as good at sounding scummy as dannflor is" - Enter

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Post Post #215  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:11 am

In post 214, Dannflor wrote:I'm confused on this train of thought, when did Molla bring town PRs to attention

I follow your case on me, I'm not following why you think it makes xwing scum as well

Your issue is focus and I agree my vote was lazier. But xwing was focused on BB in their vote? I'm not sure what the difference is in your mind behind xwing's questioning and Micc's statement


No, im saying that we have PRs so Molla wouldn't bring attention to himself.

I'm saying that Scum was voting Molla when at L2. I'm not saying xwing and you are Scum, im saying I believe there's Scum within you 2. Most likely you for what I already said.

Difference with xwing and Micc is Micc is only set on Molla.
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #216  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:46 am

In post 181, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 180, PenguinPower wrote:pls no wall...

I post walls so I can remember shit, its actually more for my benefit that yours.

Spoiler: spoiled for space
In post 210, 0verki11 wrote:Firstly, I dont know if this has been addressed, but under no circumstances do we give someone a target to check if they flip town, mafia will just kill them if they are town.

In post 14, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: BBmolla

Self vote rant reeeeeeeeeee. Not a fan of them

In post 26, Creature wrote:I'll probably play the game only the way it is supposed to be played: through normal scumhunting.

Gut says town

In post 42, Vedith wrote:
In post 41, Draco Lucky wrote:
In post 37, Vedith wrote:I think Xwing is Scum.

why?
-u2

Trying to end fun RVS time and trying to look town!

Not needed


In post 74, Vedith wrote:
In post 73, BBmolla wrote:Wont know till I reveal them duh doy


As long as you town read me, that's all that matters anyway.

Dont really like this post either

In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.

Dont discuss targets, just leave them to do it.

In post 176, Dannflor wrote:
In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.

Both these slots are town imo

UNVOTE: BBMolla

He's not quite towny but he's definitely not scum. I just don't see the scum motivation for entering the game with a self vote, drawing all that attention, and then continuing to play the way he's playing. My theory was that it was a play for town cred by acting as if he'd be okay with his lynch because he'd get an investigation. But that doesn't really fit with his play of "looking for reactions" + not reading the thread. It's sloppy play, and I think mafia would be more careful here, particularly since they entered the game with such a risky move.

Vedith, is this where your lock town on BBmolla is coming from? Also, why is Draco a scum read

Please dont tell me this is unironic TWTBAW


I swear there was actually more content but nvm.


@0verki11
What part(s) of this wall post did you put in because you want to remember them later?
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Post Post #217  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:47 am

-U2 damn im bad at this
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Post Post #218  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:33 pm

In post 216, Draco Lucky wrote:
In post 181, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 180, PenguinPower wrote:pls no wall...

I post walls so I can remember shit, its actually more for my benefit that yours.

Spoiler: spoiled for space
In post 210, 0verki11 wrote:Firstly, I dont know if this has been addressed, but under no circumstances do we give someone a target to check if they flip town, mafia will just kill them if they are town.

In post 14, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: BBmolla

Self vote rant reeeeeeeeeee. Not a fan of them

In post 26, Creature wrote:I'll probably play the game only the way it is supposed to be played: through normal scumhunting.

Gut says town

In post 42, Vedith wrote:
In post 41, Draco Lucky wrote:
In post 37, Vedith wrote:I think Xwing is Scum.

why?
-u2

Trying to end fun RVS time and trying to look town!

Not needed


In post 74, Vedith wrote:
In post 73, BBmolla wrote:Wont know till I reveal them duh doy


As long as you town read me, that's all that matters anyway.

Dont really like this post either

In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.

Dont discuss targets, just leave them to do it.

In post 176, Dannflor wrote:
In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.

Both these slots are town imo

UNVOTE: BBMolla

He's not quite towny but he's definitely not scum. I just don't see the scum motivation for entering the game with a self vote, drawing all that attention, and then continuing to play the way he's playing. My theory was that it was a play for town cred by acting as if he'd be okay with his lynch because he'd get an investigation. But that doesn't really fit with his play of "looking for reactions" + not reading the thread. It's sloppy play, and I think mafia would be more careful here, particularly since they entered the game with such a risky move.

Vedith, is this where your lock town on BBmolla is coming from? Also, why is Draco a scum read

Please dont tell me this is unironic TWTBAW


I swear there was actually more content but nvm.


@0verki11
What part(s) of this wall post did you put in because you want to remember them later?

A vedith scumread and a possible buddy in Dannflor if BBM flips scum

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Post Post #219  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:44 pm

In post 211, Vedith wrote:@xwing
But all town are PRs. Scum!Molla never brings that attention to the table.

By focus I mean pushing attention to a player for what you believe/portray as scummy.
Dann in
" I like your response"
"I'll join you on BBMolla"

This is basically using you to say he agrees but to not be the primary pusher.

VOTE: Dannflor


basically you're suspecting dann for sheeping my vote on bb?
dann also followed me to overkill..how does that affect your reads on both of us?
also, scum!molla can be gambiting for all we know..i need more from him to sort, im not convinced of him being town..null at best for now..null/scum for me..

overkill's wall post was very underwhelming..i expected him to at least give a read on all the active players..

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Post Post #220  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:17 pm

In post 219, xwing wrote:basically you're suspecting dann for sheeping my vote on bb?
dann also followed me to overkill..how does that affect your reads on both of us?
also, scum!molla can be gambiting for all we know..i need more from him to sort, im not convinced of him being town..null at best for now..null/scum for me..

overkill's wall post was very underwhelming..i expected him to at least give a read on all the active players..


No, I suspect him for using you as the reason for his vote.
It didn't make me change my mind who Dann is voting. Overkill isn't pinging me as Scum. An underwhelming and empty post doesn't mean Scum. What benefit does he gain as Scum with such a bad post? The same as town, fuck all. It's pointless but it's NAI.

As for Molla, you are correct. He could be playing a naughty Scum prank on us. But then I could have wings and fly around at night protecting my city.
It's just not realistic.
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #221  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:39 pm

is my reason for voting overkill..
saying his wall post was underwhelming was just me calling a spade a spade..not scumreading him for that bit.. :)

as for bb, i dunno, i really am not comfy with him until he posts more, so no matter how you guys clear him, my null/scum read on him is my compromise..

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Post Post #222  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:47 pm

Don't get me wrong. I don't think a vote on Overkill is bad.
And i would lynch the slot over keeping with what I have.

I really didn't like Danns response to me though and I feel he was intentially mis reading what I was saying.
I claim scum \o/

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Post Post #223  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:49 pm

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Post Post #224  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:49 pm

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