Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[Titus]

I had a horrible day IRL. My judgment is impaired. Drunk Titus will show soon.

[Fumuki]

Drunk playing is the best anyway.

[Titus]

Drunk playing is the best anyway.

I like you. I haven't played drunk in over a year I think.

So, why is worm a consensus scum read anyway?

[Fumuki]

I find worrying that he hasn't really shown much thought process in his reads.

He has reads, but they are kind of given without much thought behind it, and the same also is shown in his pushes.

I've seen town!Dr.Worm do better, and I find his interest in the early doctor claims/Baezu rolefishy.

[Titus]

I find worrying that he hasn't really shown much thought process in his reads.

He has reads, but they are kind of given without much thought behind it, and the same also is shown in his pushes.

I've seen town!Dr.Worm do better, and I find his interest in the early doctor claims/Baezu rolefishy.

The first part is meh. Burden of proficiency. Everyone has good or bad games.

I'm very interested in the role fish argument though.

[Fumuki]

I need to catch up on this game...please gimme a bit

DO YOU BELEIVE WIZZERD"S CLAIM??

^ Baezu had early said that "one of the two claims is probably false", an obvious crumb.

Spoiler:

First of all, I don't give two shits about RC's reputation. I know enough about him from direct interaction, I don't need to rely on hearsay.

Since RC *is* good at orchestrating mislynches, I'll go ahead and claim. I am actually one of the doctors.

My role PM didn't say anything about this bullshit mechanic where I can't be healed

, which is why I suggested to Pretentious that we heal each other. I knew that he was creating wifom, but figured that if he was lying, he'd be CCed and then retract. Once he explained the mechanic and I realized how badly I'd screwed up, I tried to maximize wifom by implying that I was a VT fakeclaiming, but not discussing the matter in any detail. RC has repeatedly tried to get me to explain my actions and therefore let him and his scumbuddies know whether or not they should kill me; as much as I hate to give in it's necessary at this point.

As far as Shoshin goes, the arguments between him and RC seems contrived, so it's likely a scum v scum interaction. All things being equal, I'd be fine lynching Shoshin today and RC tomorrow. However, I'm almost certainly going to die tonight, and (if we lynch Shoshin today) RC will use her scumflip and his conflicts with her to try to talk himself out of getting lynched. It's likely that the town would get suckered in, and RC would then carry scum to endgame without any real opposition.

Given this, I want to see RC die before I do, which means today. Shoshin is barely trying so I trust the town to lynch him in my absence.

Also,

according to the mafia role card in the OP

, they only have night chat, and therefore haven't communicated yet. RC is intentionally townslipping by pretending not to know this.

^He is basically paying too much attention in Wizard claim compared to the rest of the game.

I need to catch up on this game...please gimme a bit

DO YOU BELEIVE WIZZERD"S CLAIM??

that answer is already in their ISO

BUKU PLAESE don"t ANSWER questions for OTHERS!!

DR WORM is not DUMB.. I know BEZUES ISO!!

^ It feels like he was asking Baezu about it to try to see if she would crumb/slip even more.

[Titus]

Wouldn't his scummates say so in daychat?

[Fumuki]

Wouldn't his scummates say so in daychat?

What...do you mean by that?

That his scumbuddies would say for him to stop it?

I think his partners are likely GiF/Egix, and GiF replaced in Pretentious slot that wasn't very active.

Also, Pretentious claimed doctor early and that might have been to try to get reactions from the real doctors.

[Titus]

Wouldn't his scummates say so in daychat?

What...do you mean by that?

That his scumbuddies would say for him to stop it?

I think his partners are likely GiF/Egix, and GiF replaced in Pretentious slot that wasn't very active.

Also, Pretentious claimed doctor early and that might have been to try to get reactions from the real doctors.

Well I could see GiF as scum trying to bait things out but that's not my read on him.

[Fumuki]

GiF replaced Pretentious in the mid of Day 2.

Pretentious was trying to bait it, not GiF in my opinion.

[Titus]

GiF replaced Pretentious in the mid of Day 2.

Pretentious was trying to bait it, not GiF in my opinion.

Yup. I saw something else.

[GuyInFreezer]

PSA Eyes is still town

[Fumuki]

PSA Eyes is still town

I guess?

Since aside from a Dr.Worm town flip I'm treating this game as mostly solved, I'm going to be fully reading Fire on The Mountain because that's some really spicy reading right there and it seems like it even got a nom to a scummie.

If anyone want to talk about it, I would be up to. Also we had both RC/Shoshin playing there so it's even relevant meta-wise.

[Fumuki]

To be honest I didn't want to try to direct the cop, but if we don't do it we:

1. Need to eventually out the cop
2. If he dies we have no solid results

then...mechanically speaking, it's in our best interest to direct cop, and as a side thought, probably direct doctor as well.

[Fumuki]

Directing doctor ensures that 1 or 2 towniest players doesn't die and forces scum to do some sub-optimal nightkill, opposed to let doctor do their own thing and have a small chance of they sucesfully stopping the nightkill (what would lead us to a no lynch day later anyway since the only change would be we reaching MyLo instead of LyLo).

Not worth letting cop and doctor do their own thing I think.

Ethically correct but not mechanically?

[Fumuki]

To be honest reading Fire on Mountain I'm more shy around taking RC slot out of the PoE.

He really do have this weird habit of changing his lynch right when it's about to be lynched.

[Fumuki]

Oh right, I know who Karmeleon main is probably.

[Titus]

Guys I am really running out of time. Once Saturday comes, I am totally done. Friday busy.

[Eyes without a face]

This game had lots of replacements and inactivity.

Who you calling inactive?

[Fumuki]

VOTE: Dr.Worm

The wagon is basically:

Dr.Worm - Eyes, NSG, GiF, Fumuki

It takes 6 to lynch, in that case Dr.Worm is in L-2.

Let's get the ball rolling because I don't think NSG is going to show up.

[Fumuki]

and I wouldn't like for someone to replace NSG and unvote Worm.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Dr Worm

Sure. Egix wagon doesn't seem to be happening.

[brassherald]

L- pizzeria uno

[Titus]

I think this is the wrong wagon but I will hammer before my evening commitments if it is still L minus 1 as we are not no lynching.

[Fumuki]

I think that if Dr.Worm flips red, Titus gain some town credit with her posting today.