Open 785: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Game over!]

[Eevee]

@Snow: look at Raya's scumgame: viewtopic.php?t=83003&f=54&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

she wallposts and is a lot more rigid

she's freeflowing and natural here - just like in that newbie game you played with her in

i'd be shocked and terrified if she was scum - trust us on this and relocate to someone eles - one of Menalque or Almost50 preferably

~Eve

[Raya36]

I've basically decided that S_S is town now. I've been going back and forth on him in my head lately but I think I like him as town

Why?

I found his recent series of posts to show a town perspective.
1832 is a good point and something I think scum would rather let slip by and happen rather than point out why it benefits town to not discuss further.
1835 admitting he was wrong and unvoting. Admitting his votes are jumbled. It shows genuine town progression rather than an agenda.
1893 admits he isn't pulling much weight in scumhunting which I expect to come from town over scum.

[Almost50]

Daily reminder that S_S is scum with ydrasse or Menalque and should be the elimination here.

[Almost50]

What if I fakeclaimed a guilty on S_S? Would that help?? Hmmm.. guess not.

OK, I'll come clean. I'm a Jailkeeper, and I jailkept S_S twice. This is why scum have not been able to kill yet. (Yeah, THAT'll work)

[Almost50]

But seriously, I dunno why everybody's being considered BUT S_S. I want someone to enlighten me, cuz he feels so much like he was in the previous game (with the exception of the bus vote as I said earlier)

[Almost50]

@Menalque: Do you agree S_S is playing the same way he did in out previous game or not? If you do, why aren't you voting him? If you don't, what is/are the difference(s) you see?

[Ydrasse]

@a50: could you post a link to the game you all played together?

[Snowblaze]

@Snow: look at Raya's scumgame: viewtopic.php?t=83003&f=54&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

she wallposts and is a lot more rigid

she's freeflowing and natural here - just like in that newbie game you played with her in

i'd be shocked and terrified if she was scum - trust us on this and relocate to someone eles - one of Menalque or Almost50 preferably

~Eve

Thanks for that, I’ll see if I’m awake enough to take it in. And haven’t we established already that I’m not voting for Menalque?

[Almost50]

@a50: could you post a link to the game you all played together?

Open 781: JK9++

[northsidegal]

Votecount 3.4

Menalque

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(4):

RCEnigma (1679), Ydrasse (1683), Fredrick A Campbell (1843), Eevee (1861)

Ydrasse

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(2):

Titus (1688), Menalque (1715)

Something_Smart

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(2):

Almost50 (1745)

Almost50

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(1):

Raya36 (1825)

Raya36

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(1):

Snowblaze (1886)

Not Voting

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(2):

Umlaut, Something_Smart (1835)

With 11 alive, it’s 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-08-11 20:41:59).

[northsidegal]

Prodding Umlaut.

[Eevee]

Sorry, not feeling up to mafia. I haven't read the last few pages in detail, but I will do that and respond to things better Soon.

Basically, I think Menalque is scum because
- Hard Snow push (this is the most pro-scum thing, as we can all agree)
- Mohab defence (the problem with this is the reasons he townread Mohab for are dodgy. I don't claim to know Menalque *that* well, but from a past town game I remember, he was more cautious/suspecting, and he doesn't exactly give *a lot* of leeway for newer players. This townread was handed out a bit too easy and feels unnatural)
- Trying to flashwagon Titus when from his point of view, Snow should be more scummy. This makes it look like he's willing to go anywhere but Mohab.
- His double-bus theory, but then going for Montosh (if he believed in his theory, he would not have gone this way)
- The Montosh case (the case itself, not the outcome because he's not to blame for that, is pro-scum)

A popular counterargument is "this is why does scum do this?" / "This makes no sense for scum to do because it looks so blatant" but I don't think that's a good reason considering scum don't always do what's optimal. Or they do what's optimal for them, and then try talk their way out of it, which I suspect is a play Menalque would be willing to go for.

Also, I guess you could say this could all be a horrible series of accidents, but the more likely explanation is he's scum. Could I be wrong? Yes. But we should go for the most likely option.

~Eva

[Eevee]

Snowblaze, please fall into my pocket! It is nice and cozy.

~Eva

[Raya36]

Yeah... I'll move back to Menalque

VOTE: Menalque
That's E-1!

[Chemical Elements]

I have nothing else to add.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I have nothing else to add.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Accidental alt slip.

[Eevee]

Sorry, not feeling up to mafia. I haven't read the last few pages in detail, but I will do that and respond to things better Soon.

Basically, I think Menalque is scum because
- Hard Snow push (this is the most pro-scum thing, as we can all agree)
- Mohab defence (the problem with this is the reasons he townread Mohab for are dodgy. I don't claim to know Menalque *that* well, but from a past town game I remember, he was more cautious/suspecting, and he doesn't exactly give *a lot* of leeway for newer players. This townread was handed out a bit too easy and feels unnatural)
- Trying to flashwagon Titus when from his point of view, Snow should be more scummy. This makes it look like he's willing to go anywhere but Mohab.
- His double-bus theory, but then going for Montosh (if he believed in his theory, he would not have gone this way)
- The Montosh case (the case itself, not the outcome because he's not to blame for that, is pro-scum)

A popular counterargument is "this is why does scum do this?" / "This makes no sense for scum to do because it looks so blatant" but I don't think that's a good reason considering scum don't always do what's optimal. Or they do what's optimal for them, and then try talk their way out of it, which I suspect is a play Menalque would be willing to go for.

Also, I guess you could say this could all be a horrible series of accidents, but the more likely explanation is he's scum. Could I be wrong? Yes. But we should go for the most likely option.

~Eva

sheeping this

VOTE: Menalque

~Eve

[Eevee]

if Menalque's not scum i think they're in [Almo, S_S, Ydrasse] - Eva's kinda convinced me on the merits of RCE town

~Eve

[Umlaut]

Oh, I was prodded.

VOTE: Menalque

We're going to do this anyway so let's just get it done.

[Menalque]

I’m town

[Menalque]

Bad elim

[Menalque]

I’m lowkey disappointed that the various people who were correctly townreading me weren’t actually willing to fight for me on that

Also that I got hammered while I was asleep and before I could respond to eevee

[Menalque]

I’d like to suggest in my final words that you sheep titus tomorrow and not eevee — like obviously listen to them, but if it comes down to it and they’re both fighting in different directions, please vote on titus’ side

[Menalque]

Idk if there’s a lot of benefit to me giving my reads or not? Given the scum escape and that that would inevitably change them