Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[MURDERCAT]

he does

Is it a recent one then? Which one? When looking for scum games I usually just skim for mafia PTs in their posts

[Isis]

Thinking a town!Plus is gonna get townread anyway. And lo and behold you unvoted plus

[Noraa]

he does

Is it a recent one then? Which one? When looking for scum games I usually just skim for mafia PTs in their posts

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84069

[MURDERCAT]

Thinking a town!Plus is gonna get townread anyway. And lo and behold you unvoted plus

Ok I see that actually.

[MURDERCAT]

he does

Is it a recent one then? Which one? When looking for scum games I usually just skim for mafia PTs in their posts

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84069

I see thanks. I probably won't look at this too closely because there's no D1 data but I'll at least give it a skim.

[Noraa]

Thinking a town!Plus is gonna get townread anyway. And lo and behold you unvoted plus

Ok I see that actually.

I dont understand what this means but I think its sussing me?

[Isis]

I sus you Noraa what are you gonna do about it!?!?!?!?

[MURDERCAT]

I dont understand what this means but I think its sussing me?

No I just understand Isis's POV on it. Scum you could conceivably be genuinely angry at plus because you think he should be a bigger miselim target and is getting away with not doing anything.

[Noraa]

I dont understand the argument in the above post but I mean I'm not paying much attention to ur SRs cuz as far as I can tell, they are not much different from plus'

[Noraa]

I dont understand what this means but I think its sussing me?

No I just understand Isis's POV on it. Scum you could conceivably be genuinely angry at plus because you think he should be a bigger miselim target and is getting away with not doing anything.

why would doing nothing make him not get limmed? And also Isis clearly hasn't meta dived me if she really believes that.

[Noraa]

That is a terrible way to think. I get frustrated/upset as town far more often AND I only get upset as scum when I'm getting tunneled or under pressure.

[Exorcists]

Lot of modspew this game. This is why mods should just refrain from commenting on anything game-related if possible.

-Lance

[MURDERCAT]

That is a terrible way to think. I get frustrated/upset as town far more often AND I only get upset as scum when I'm getting tunneled or under pressure.

I believe this to be true FWIW

[Isis]

I haven't meta dived you, I rarely read people's older games to read them nowadays. I have to be extremely curious about something.

[Noraa]

That is a terrible way to think. I get frustrated/upset as town far more often AND I only get upset as scum when I'm getting tunneled or under pressure.

I believe this to be true FWIW

Honestly this is generally how all players are so Isis suggesting that I'm a rare case is strange considering normally people just assume this is how everyone is...

[Exorcists]

In terms of ranking from town to scum, I'd say something like:

ego > exorcist > isis > jewels > tswift > murdercat > bm > cobra > dunnstral > rc > noraa > xofelf

Considering everyone to the left of me is your townreads, I'm neutral, and everyone to the right of me is your scumread, then from my point of view; you're either scum, townreading scum, or you're exactly right on your three scumreads. Given the basis for your reads, and general probability, it's probably one of the first two.

Weird post. Serves nothing other than pointing out some of Plus's reads are probably incorrect, which is a given for anyone at this stage.

-Lance

[Noraa]

I haven't meta dived you, I rarely read people's older games to read them nowadays. I have to be extremely curious about something.

nowadays? u make it sound like u've been playing for years and years. wait are u an alt? O_o

[Noraa]

In terms of ranking from town to scum, I'd say something like:

ego > exorcist > isis > jewels > tswift > murdercat > bm > cobra > dunnstral > rc > noraa > xofelf

Considering everyone to the left of me is your townreads, I'm neutral, and everyone to the right of me is your scumread, then from my point of view; you're either scum, townreading scum, or you're exactly right on your three scumreads. Given the basis for your reads, and general probability, it's probably one of the first two.

Weird post. Serves nothing other than pointing out some of Plus's reads are probably incorrect, which is a given for anyone at this stage.

-Lance

I really vibe with this post here. Feels to me like townie picking up on the details. I, personally actually missed this.

[MURDERCAT]

nowadays? u make it sound like u've been playing for years and years. wait are u an alt? O_o

Someone didn't read all of the Isis is now a list mod thread

[MURDERCAT]

I really vibe with this post here. Feels to me like townie picking up on the details. I, personally actually missed this.

Pretty sure Isis said the same thing in her wall?

[Exorcists]

@Battle Mage, I’m still interested in this. Can you summarise how she did this and link please?

I asked and didn't get a response I don't think. I believe it refers to one of these:

viewtopic.php?p=12126543#p12126543
viewtopic.php?p=12128504#p12128504

Can I get a ELI5 for the context and why it's role fishing?

-Lance

[MURDERCAT]

Can I get a ELI5 for the context and why it's role fishing?

You'd have to ask BM, it didn't ping me in the game

[Exorcists]

How come you stopped voting me in this same post then if my play hasn't deserved your attention elsewhere?

well just know ill be keeping an eye on you. its very convenient that youre back now that the pressure is off. i moved my vote because the game was ready to move on and i didnt want to help stagnate it. im conflicted, as i expressed. i both dislike the wagon falling apart, and like that it fell apart. im not sure which one of those is the correct take. i dont townread you though.

Also weird. Shouldn't Random Canadian be incentivized to come back when there is pressure, not isn't?

-Lance

[Exorcists]

I'm caught up and I want to VOTE: Noraa, it's been lots of bits and pieces too small to quote but the bits where she doesn't believe herself deserving to be townread doesn't make me want to townread her. It outweighs the things I liked.
Dunnstral seems scummy to me, but by now I think I've tallied enough read accuracy from him across games that I want him alive more than other players because a town!Dunnstral is going to solve the game for me.
I'd find Jewel Barons a little scummy for being sideliney if I ignored the PT thing, but I agree with Dunnstral about that being a strong push town and that matters more. And I'm used to not loving Gamma's posting until finally finding something I like on page 80.
If I had to pick another scum I think I'd pick Swift but I want to give her room to play right now.

Very nice. Dunnstral, Noraa, and Tayl0r are all slots I want to look at right now. I've changed my mind on both Plus and Random Canadian. I'll join you on Noraa.
VOTE: Noraa
These posts look fake to me. There's a lot of 'work with me' which I read as disingenuous.

Spoiler:

nu fighting. it helps no one.

i do think this is a very different gameplan from taylor compared to her towngames, and very similar to her scumgame.

well I personally dont see it yet and even if she actually was scum, tunneling her is actually prolly gonna do the opposite of what u want it to do.

I say u both stop tunneling and go on with the game

I think its his normal play which is coolio and all but rn tunneling isnt gonna help us get a Taylor lim even if she is scum :/

Stop stop stop stop. There isnt a point in picking a fight with BM here rn. BM is just tunneling someone (I assume) he actually believes is scum. That needs to stop bc instead of making me want to vote Taylor, I want to not vote her. but all this attacking on BM isnt gonna get us anywhere either.

No tunneling allowed for day 1 BM!
if ur town, work with me.

or, if u think im scum, work with someone u think is town.

I dont particularly think xof is scum and I dont like how fast u jumped off me. I feel a townie would jump on me bc of suspicions that I am scum and investigate and dig around a bit even if only baiting reactions to see what's up. I dont think townies back off this easily and in such a ~pockety~ way. This is something I find strange and I think Isis will be at a scum lean for now bc of that.

amigas we are but not when scum hunter Noraa wants to find some scums :3
though I low-key suck at scum hunting soooooo if im wrong, u shall get apology huggies postgame.

U ever played a game with him before? I definitely feel like my read is fairly accurate considering I've played quite a bit with plus(the ongoing I will not mention) Also thank you please do make sure all ur heads say the same thing cuz if all town sees from ur slot is "blah is really sus. nah blah is actually pretty town. Nono blah is sus", we cannot solve you. I was not joking. If ur slot continued to shift opinions all the time, I was going to just ignore ur slot and honestly, tho I hate policy lims, I would suggest it. The other two hydras have less people(only two in both cases) and their opinions are somewhat the same. Urs is the only one that isn't consistent at all.

no

Im kinda done with this. if ur town, ur not trying to cooperate or solve. You cant provide any reasons to support absolutely anything. You couldn't explain a TR that should be pretty easy to explain to murder and you couldn't explain ur SR on me to me. ou won't put in the minimum effort and make/adjust reads as needed. You have a playstyle thats hard to read but that doesnt mean u can do whatever you want. I've seen you put more effort in before but ur not even trying here. I think you are scum and even if ur not, town is gonna mislim u sometime this game for this play because its confusing, hard to read, and overall scummy. Better to mislim day 1 and clear out the setup than to mislim in limlo and lose the game. Plus if ur town, I want a readslist with all of the players who you are confident are a certain alignment with a solid paragraph on why ASAP. You dont have to include everyone. In fact just including like 3 people is fine as long as they are well justified. Do this and I'll think about caving because I know very well you are generally somewhat like this. Show me you are town. I am tired and annoyed of mislimming you. Work with me. Otherwise if this is a mislim, its not on me this time and you cannot guilt me into not voting you out in future games because it was you that didn't want to cooperate. A readslist is by no means hard and one thats only requesting 3+ people in it should be very easy.

This is tinfoil material, but Noraa was alarmed at how 417 came across as when Alice refuted it, so much so that I think she wouldn't normally make the error if town, and was more focused on faking stances rather than not being mean.

-Lance

[PlusJOYED]

no

Im kinda done with this. if ur town, ur not trying to cooperate or solve. You cant provide any reasons to support absolutely anything. You couldn't explain a TR that should be pretty easy to explain to murder and you couldn't explain ur SR on me to me. ou won't put in the minimum effort and make/adjust reads as needed. You have a playstyle thats hard to read but that doesnt mean u can do whatever you want. I've seen you put more effort in before but ur not even trying here. I think you are scum and even if ur not, town is gonna mislim u sometime this game for this play because its confusing, hard to read, and overall scummy. Better to mislim day 1 and clear out the setup than to mislim in limlo and lose the game. Plus if ur town, I want a readslist with all of the players who you are confident are a certain alignment with a solid paragraph on why ASAP. You dont have to include everyone. In fact just including like 3 people is fine as long as they are well justified. Do this and I'll think about caving because I know very well you are generally somewhat like this. Show me you are town. I am tired and annoyed of mislimming you. Work with me. Otherwise if this is a mislim, its not on me this time and you cannot guilt me into not voting you out in future games because it was you that didn't want to cooperate. A readslist is by no means hard and one thats only requesting 3+ people in it should be very easy.

holy shit
theres a reason why I can't elaborate my read. Think about it.
Secondly, it irritates me that you would think im being lazy here and not cooperating. I'm not just playing this game, and I don't wanna make mafia my whole life. The pool of effort I put into this game is finite, and when you asked, I'd just spent like half an hour iso diving and sorting people for my readlist while at my work break and having just read 40 pages of a mess of another game.