Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Cobra Kai]

Why is it a bad answer? Why aren’t you voting me for it?

[Noraa]

You could be scum but I'm more interested in putting pressure on plus and isis rn

[Cobra Kai]

Why do you think they are scum?

[Noraa]

I think plus is scum cuz of his weird behavior and failure to explain a single SR on a single person.
Isis' progression on me has been weird as well. the reasons are all weak and there's only ... 2. not to mention she actually spends more time on other people yet her votes on me.

[Cobra Kai]

I rescind my earlier thoughts, I no longer think this is TvT.

If you look at +joyed’s iso noraa is the only scumread he won’t explain and he’s said multiple times why he can’t. This hyberbolic explanation shows Noraa cares more about eliminating him than trying to understand and read him.

He had explained scumreads on multiple others.

[PlusJOYED]

out of town, vla until Monday

[Noraa]

He did not explain why he cannot explain the SR

[Noraa]

All he said was "no"

[Cobra Kai]

If you are town you are being unnecessarily stubborn and not looking between the lines. It is very obvious why he can’t.

[Noraa]

I am not seeing it. can you explain?

[Noraa]

Im not trying to be stubborn. I just don't see what you are seeing. If its true he has good reason to not explain, I can reconsider but I personally do not see anything.

[Tayl0r Swift]

sorry, been real busy irl. hot take: plus is town.

[Battle Mage]

noraa flipped like 3 times in a monolgue

i normally consider that a towntell

[Battle Mage]

Yeah, I've been leaning scum on Plus but am trying to reason it out. 346 and 351 are because for the most part I think Plus's posts fit in line with my thinking that they might be scum. However, I have a bit of a harder time seeing Plus's first post fit the scum motivation hence why I asked Xofelf in 342 what their thoughts on that post were to try and get a new perspective on it.

Spoiler: Plus's calculated posts

ya i think it doesn't mean anything @bm


hold up, upon iso checking, I think there is something I missed first read
-RC voting and defending himself then leaving is a tiny bit weird, could be nothing
-xoltelf is rather sus. specifically, the fact that they joined in like 2008 and pull a newbiecard, claiming they're rusty and they've never considered option B for meta, and seem very open minded. I don't expect people to be mafia gods just cause of an early join date but I do expect them to know what they're doing and their uncertain tone feels very fake to me.
VOTE: xoltelf

This one feels like positioning himself to suspect me later and put his vote on Xofelf for rather weak reasons in my opinion.

hmm this RC wagon is koving kinda fast
i think there could be scum on it

Later, sets himself up to look at people voting me even though he helped create momentum around the wagon on me with the previous post I quoted. He eventually did look at the votes, and picked out Murdercat as the vote he didn't like on the wagon.

I also maintain my xolef scumread

When people back his read of Xolfelf, he puts himself out as still scumreading him to keep his positioning. Xofelf hadn't posted between Plus's vote and this post so why the need to post this other than to have his positioning down in writing?

i have gamblers fallacy with noraa being scum rn

Here he gives himself a reason to not suspect Noraa at the time but this one is very weak and he says so himself that it is a fallacy. This is bigtime positioning to go after Noraa later.

279 and 280 read town to me. I think I've already mentioned to you I don't need my vote to feel people out, I can do it with my voice. My vote is more a symbol of who seems scummiest.

Seeing how you would respond is part of that.

"I think Isis will be at a scum lean" sounds like justifying a scumread rather than explaining one, speaking of, why aren't you voting me?

those posts are without a doubt within noraas scumrange
agree with taylor, noraa is one of those slots that just gets solved over time.

Hints that certain posts from Noraa could be part of her scum game. It just feels thought out to me about where Plus is trying to go and leave himself many different people to possibly scum read later. This also feels like a planned progression to eventually vote Noraa. Soft scumreading her without blatantly saying it and leaving it open enough for interpretation.

Individually his posts don't look that out of the ordinary but put together, I think he has a plan to look active and comment on the things going on. Within his comments, it looks like he could have scum motivation to put himself in position to scumread many different people later on as he needs. At the moment, he has many weak townreads but none seem that strong that he wouldn't come back on later if he needs to.

I think RC-Plus is not SvS based on this.

[Battle Mage]

i would flip egotisi today. very quiet for a hydra and mostly fluff. A few questions and gut feels but not really taking many strong positions or being influential.

[Battle Mage]

I think there's a decent chance of scum in {Isis-Noraa}.

I still think Taylor is scum.

[Battle Mage]

there are reasons to suspect Plus, but on balance he is one of the less scummy player, so I guess that makes him more likely town.

[Battle Mage]

Cobra Kai is an interesting one. Remarkable in this game that he has seemingly struggled to identify scumreads but been very liberal with townreads. Weirdly I'm leaning town, as if he's scum he's tying his own legs together with that approach.

[Battle Mage]

Exorcists are the tippy top towniest players.

[Battle Mage]

like, oozing towniness. if scum, i take my hat off to you.

[Noraa]

sorry, been real busy irl. hot take: plus is town.

expand whenever you have time on this thought pls.

I think there's a decent chance of scum in {Isis-Noraa}.
I still think Taylor is scum.

why is there scum in {isis, noraa}? And if there is scum there, who is it?

there are reasons to suspect Plus, but on balance he is one of the less scummy player, so I guess that makes him more likely town.

this logic doesn't go thru. play style has nothing to do with chance of being town/scum

[MURDERCAT]

I like BM's recent posts

[Noraa]

I'm ok with them. I'd like explanations tho.

[Battle Mage]

I think there's a decent chance of scum in {Isis-Noraa}.
I still think Taylor is scum.

why is there scum in {isis, noraa}? And if there is scum there, who is it?

I don't know which - if I knew that, I'd have said!

there are reasons to suspect Plus, but on balance he is one of the less scummy player, so I guess that makes him more likely town.

this logic doesn't go thru. play style has nothing to do with chance of being town/scum

i don't know what you're saying here? i didn't say anything about playstyle?

[Battle Mage]

ill come back to you on the other Q Noraa - will consult the ISOs again, as im riffing