Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

[Elbirn]

VOTE: Big Elephant

why are we voting big elephant?

[MiniVirgo]

still rather sold on A50 scum, JV being A50's lawyer somehow doesn't sit right with my gut

-S

Actually I’ll come back to this but I think this might be AI, I cannot say why do you’ll have to either trust me read until a certain time comes or ignore a future post that I make regarding this.

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

still rather sold on A50 scum, JV being A50's lawyer somehow doesn't sit right with my gut

-S

big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town

hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.

i think a lot of scum are inactive

I don’t buddy until late game

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

I hate mobile

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

VOTE: Big Elephant

why are we voting big elephant?

We’re not

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

Not yet anyway



- Jv

[yessiree]

I dont get the big elephant SR at all

Can we kill prof maf

[yessiree]

big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town

hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.

i think a lot of scum are inactive

I read this like 3 times and I cant see this coming from town

[Big Elephant]

big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town

hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.

i think a lot of scum are inactive

I read this like 3 times and I cant see this coming from town

yessiree you're literally my soulmate

sr on JV is making something out of nothing
townbinning mwnn + A50 without reasoning
omgussing is labelling me as scum without explaining or intent to make it a wagon

VOTE: Professor Mafia
-S

[Big Elephant]

VOTE: Big Elephant

why are we voting big elephant?

ah, the classic vote and questioning the why of the vote

elbirn thoughts on professor mafia?

[Big Elephant]

-S

yessireee thoughts on johnny slot? im SR'ing there rather hard
-S

[yessiree]

also encourage other people to weigh in on this

+1

we should try and break the setup instead of just blindly playing this
prof mafias being anti-town, and seeing as they're an alt (probably hectic) it's pretty scummy of them

prof mafia pushed me for apparently having reads (?) when im clearly trying to solve instead of shitpushing here
prof mafia also soft-defended johnny with the shade on MWNN (and sudden reverse of it is illogical), which is very weird
-shelly

If a setup proves to be breakable it'd be revoked from the list. In other words, all open setups available are unbreakable (or at least have not been proven to be yet). I suspect what you mean is "find a best strategy to maximize our chances to win" which is subject to everyone's PoV and playstyle. In some forums it is customary to massclaim on D1, as they believe THAT is the "best strategy" to play the game (from Town PoV). I happen to disagree. Would you vote me based on that disagreement? Would you vote someone who suggested a massclaim here because they're used to it there?

the point is less about finding an "optimal" strategy and follow it to the letter, but more about having that discussion as early as possible and get everyone on the same page so we can all collectively move on with the game

[yessiree]

-S

yessireee thoughts on johnny slot? im SR'ing there rather hard
-S

mostly null to me, haven't gotten any hard pings from that slot so i haven't tried to sort him yet

[yessiree]

-S

yessireee thoughts on johnny slot? im SR'ing there rather hard
-S

mostly null to me, haven't gotten any hard pings from that slot so i haven't tried to sort him yet

i definitely dont TR johnny farrar yet but i can agree with his take on prof maf

plus that dude is getting his kidney stone removed so im cutting him some slack here

[yessiree]

that entry by elbrin looks okay, not amazing, but okay i guess
A50 is playing to his town meta i think
mr mc cree guy looks okay for now

[MiniVirgo]

Yeah alright I looked into a specific something.

VOTE: Big Elephant

- Acts OMGUS'y as all heck as a scum-tell.
- Refuses to see my logic and bases a SR around my logic against it, and then continues to shove me in the SR pile because they have no other way to deny my logic.
- Thinks their SR is absolute and there's no way they can be wrong, similar to how they feigned confidence in the large normal.
- Continued to copy and pocket the living daylights out of me when I TR'd them, but I refused to push that because mini and I had a plan to test which I'll explain below but they switched instantly when I expressed any sort of scum-read on them and/or call them out on false logic.


Initially I brought up to mini that I thought a shelly scum-tell would be their super OMGUSy and pockety behaviour depending on how you act towards them. I wanted to test that initally by having Mini SR them and myself TR them. See if they reacted much differently to me than to her (although mini didn't post much). As SOON as I started disagreeing with her, she immediately switched their read on me. It was ticking exactly like I expected it to, if that

is

their town-meta as well they should probably learn to actually accept that they're not always right on their reads and shouldn't ever push anyone that stands against them.

I'll probably have to read through Redados's specific posts as I could be super biased. Also mini brought up that shelly being lynched D1 is a town-tell lmfaooo.

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

I'm not entirely sure if using a hydra in that way is not allowed but I thought why wouldn't it be. Also Derp is my second biggest SR aorn

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

I'm working a lot tomorrow so hopefully mini will become my backup for tomorrow, if she remembers to post lol

[MiniVirgo]

- JV

[Big Elephant]

- Acts OMGUS'y as all heck as a scum-tell.
- Refuses to see my logic and bases a SR around my logic against it, and then continues to shove me in the SR pile because they have no other way to deny my logic.
- Thinks their SR is absolute and there's no way they can be wrong, similar to how they feigned confidence in the large normal.
- Continued to copy and pocket the living daylights out of me when I TR'd them, but I refused to push that because mini and I had a plan to test which I'll explain below but they switched instantly when I expressed any sort of scum-read on them and/or call them out on false logic.


Initially I brought up to mini that I thought a shelly scum-tell would be their super OMGUSy and pockety behaviour depending on how you act towards them. I wanted to test that initally by having Mini SR them and myself TR them. See if they reacted much differently to me than to her (although mini didn't post much). As SOON as I started disagreeing with her, she immediately switched their read on me. It was ticking exactly like I expected it to, if that is their town-meta as well they should probably learn to actually accept that they're not always right on their reads and shouldn't ever push anyone that stands against them.

I'll probably have to read through Redados's specific posts as I could be super biased. Also mini brought up that shelly being lynched D1 is a town-tell lmfaooo.

- JV

- I never, ever SR'd you, I said your logic was INCORRECT, not that you were scummy, can you quote where i SR'd you, this is a misrep.
- I refuse to see your logic because you refuse to see mine.
- I have confidence as either alignment??????
- im omgussy as town with bad logic pushes BECAUSE I'm an extremely self-aware scum. tell me where i omgussed in that large normal; in fact I probably did the opposite of it
- I've got reasonable confidence in my reads because i know that they're probably correct.
- you're sr'ing me for tr'ing you???????? which doesn't make sense at all. there are differences between pockets and TRs and it comes down to reasoning

YES GETTING LYNCHED D1 IS A TOWNTELL FOR ME. the reason why I get elim'd d1 is that because I have weird and (CORRECT) reads and this is exactly the same
my playstyle is naturally scummy because I'm bad at OBVTOWNING AND I JUST COMPLETELY FAIL AT IT
im gonna take a break from this thread because this is frustrating as fuck
-S

[Big Elephant]

Jackson you've played with me as scum, you know that im very self aware and i'd never ever omgus as scum
are you telling me to stop townreading people whatsoever
I actually TR'd you for reasons, that you're proactively engaging and solving (and still are) but you're just terribly wrong at this
-S

[Big Elephant]

if that is their town-meta as well they should probably learn to actually accept that they're not always right on their reads and shouldn't ever push anyone that stands against them.

my strength as town is read accuracy and my weakness is seeming townie.
omgussing works a charm for reaction testing as well
i know my push on prof mafia/johnny/A50-lurker solve is probably correct

[Big Elephant]

-S

can someone, someone actually give a reason other than "POCKETING" to SR me, because im clearly not POCKETING and I should be liberal with my TRs

-S

[Big Elephant]

"People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely agree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town." - RadiantCowbells

[MiniVirgo]

big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town

hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.

i think a lot of scum are inactive

I read this like 3 times and I cant see this coming from town

yessiree you're literally my soulmate

sr on JV is making something out of nothing
townbinning mwnn + A50 without reasoning
omgussing is labelling me as scum without explaining or intent to make it a wagon

VOTE: Professor Mafia
-S

You literally said it

-JV