Open 801: Trust Fall (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Trust Count 2.11

Gloria Cleary (2) - Necessary Sneasel, Akarin
Necessary Sneasel (1) - shellyc

Not Trusting (6) - Fidget, Gloria Cleary, Jake The Wolfie, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rainbow Reads

The deadline is Thursday, December 17, 2020, at 8:00 PM EST (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2020-12-17 20:00:00).

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake still isn't posting

What do you mean by "still"?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel like 1217 intentionally ignores the entire strategy behind why I'm suggesting what I'm suggesting in a way that plays perfectly into the gamestate shifting towards people trusting you.

I legit don't think anything you've posted is towny

i literally addressed your strategy in 1215

why would i re-state something i've already stated

you are very silly

[Necessary Sneasel]

Jake still isn't posting

What do you mean by "still"?

I've read better posts from a damp crumpet

where is your head at this game?

[Necessary Sneasel]

I swear Pooky is gloating but now I'm aware I'm confbiasing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sigh really?

even if i were scum here I wouldn't be gloating much less when I'm town dude

[Necessary Sneasel]

if Fidget has no issues I'm going to trust Pooky just to get this over with

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why are you flip-flopping, Snevil?

[Necessary Sneasel]

Because you're a lurksack, Jake. We need to solve this game around you, and that means I need to evaluate how likely I vs. other town are to be correct.

[Fidget]

Nothing recently is helpful to solving the PoE, unfortunately. I don't really have anything to add to what's been said.

I do still think I want Jake/RR to be left out of the dance, and I'll leave it there.

[Necessary Sneasel]

Jake, you've got an indeterminate amount of time to make me change my mind. If I get annoyed in the meantime you're endgaming.

[Fidget]

The simplest explanation really probably is just that one of Jake/RR is fed up with the game and/or playing it up that they're fed up with the game.

I don't feel like there's much we can do to solve them at this point. Rainbow sounded defeated the moment we put any scrutiny on them whatsoever and stopped playing. I can buy that it made them frustrated, yes, but that doesn't change that they pretty much laid down immediately without caring who of Jake/Pooky is left out.

And Jake, idk where Jake is.

Pooky played the game, albeit in a way that is hard for me to read by mostly just messing around, but he did play.

[Necessary Sneasel]

I feel like if Pooky is scum I'm going to be in postgame massaging my temples but if he's town I'll feel very at peace

[Necessary Sneasel]

I think this is probably the only time I will play with Jake. Damp crumpet etc.

[Akarin]

Okay so if this were 3p Lylo we've got

Rainbow (2): Pooky, Jake
Pooky (1): Rainbow

The hammer dynamics stuff isn't in play, so maybe this is a bad way of looking at it, but the fact that neither Pooky nor Rainbow suspect Jake is kind of interesting when looked at like this.

[Akarin]

But yeah, I'm increasingly happy to hand the game to Pooky on the basis of Jim Croce

[Rainbow Reads]

I don't feel like there's much we can do to solve them at this point. Rainbow sounded defeated the moment we put any scrutiny on them whatsoever and stopped playing. I can buy that it made them frustrated, yes, but that doesn't change that they pretty much laid down immediately without caring who of Jake/Pooky is left out.

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[Necessary Sneasel]

I mean any scum in RR/Pooky is surely fairly confident that Jake is just not going to get TF'd

This could be the t/t ELo situation which loses town a bunch of games (with Jake being scum), or could be a situation where the scum in RR/Pooky is confident enough in their mis-elim that they don't feel the need to shade the other towny (that being Jake).

Sadly don't think this game style makes typical ELo analysis all that useful and don't think any of these 3 have played enough of the actual game for us to work it out

[Fidget]

I don't feel like there's much we can do to solve them at this point. Rainbow sounded defeated the moment we put any scrutiny on them whatsoever and stopped playing. I can buy that it made them frustrated, yes, but that doesn't change that they pretty much laid down immediately without caring who of Jake/Pooky is left out.

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Why would I have any reason to be disingenuous..?

Try this: ISO yourself. What's the first post you make outside of readslists and fluff?

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Yeah. This is the kind of tone I'm taking about. It feels like you gave up even before Gloria began frustrating you.

Spoiler: and it continues

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You say that you have Pooky and Jake as scum and slightly lean Pooky, but legitimately nowhere can I find the reasoning for either read until multiple weeks later (yesterday). Your time got taken up arguing whether or not you already had Pooky as scum, among some other arguments with Gloria.

[Necessary Sneasel]

INDETERMINATE PERIOD OVER

I trust Pooky reluctantly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I trust sneasel

[Equinox]

Trust Count 2.12

Gloria Cleary (2) - Necessary Sneasel, Akarin
Necessary Sneasel (2) - shellyc, PookyTheMagicalBear
PookyTheMagicalBear (1) - Necessary Sneasel

Not Trusting (5) - Fidget, Gloria Cleary, Jake The Wolfie, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rainbow Reads

The deadline is Thursday, December 17, 2020, at 8:00 PM EST (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2020-12-17 20:00:00).

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With great trepidation, Necessary Sneasel asked PookyTheMagicalBear for this dance. PookyTheMagicalBear immediately said "yes".

Necessary Sneasel,

town vanilla

, left Day 2!

PookyTheMagicalBear,

mafia goon

, left Day 2!

A win condition has been fulfilled!

Akarin, Fidget, Gloria Cleary, Jake The Wolfie, Rainbow Reads, and shellyc,

town vanillas

, remained in the endgame!

Hectic and PookyTheMagicalBear,

mafia goons

, win the game!

[Equinox]

Roles

Mafia Goon: Hectic
Mafia Goon: PookyTheMagicalBear
Town Vanilla: Akarin
Town Vanilla: Fidget
Town Vanilla: Jake The Wolfie
Town Vanilla: Necessary Sneasel
Town Vanilla: Rainbow Reads
Town Vanilla:

Rockhopper

Gloria Cleary
Town Vanilla: shellyc
Town Vanilla:

Tayl0r Swift

Uncrowned

Private Topics

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Thank you to everyone for playing! Special thanks to Gloria Cleary and Uncrowned for replacing into the game.

I don't have much to say here except to ask that y'all try not to burn down the place in post-game. If you have feedback about the balance of this setup, then please feel free to express them here and I will make sure to relay it to T-Bone.

[Akarin]

[Rainbow Reads]

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