Open 810 | Aliensitter Needed! | Mafia wins

[Bingle]

@bingle who should I be voting for

I'm incredibly disengaged from the game.

[Lukewarm]

find it fascinating that it went from 0 votes to functionally E-2 overnight. (GPa is offwagon, but might as well be on wagon for how clear that progression is. I think you've been a positive influence on the thread since your rep in.

You did not post who you thought we should vote because you were worried we would sheep you too much. So we sheeped almost50 instead

[GrandpaMo]

Okay, I think that there is exactly 1 scum between T3 and Johnny.

If I had to choose an elim today, I think I am leaning T3. Mainly because I had a scum read on T3 for most of Day 1 and because of 1134, but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.

Spoiler:

Also, would feel bad about eliming the replace in so quickly

VOTE: T3

BRUH R U KIDDING ME. pls give me credit ;-;

i literally said this !!!

[GrandpaMo]

@bingle who should I be voting for

bad enterance.

[GrandpaMo]

Drapion, I think T3 is town

@ProfDrapion, I just think T3's entrance was genuine emotionally

it's very simple and straightforward but also like the type of slightly scummy posting scum tends to want to avoid

when I look for scum entrances I look for the posters who are trying to make themselves look good

kinda doubt scum t3 shoots Dann

didnt u want t3 out??

[GrandpaMo]

also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol

this is sorta true lol...

but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.


even tho pooky... i think this is an info flip..

if this flips town, dont u think johnny is scum?

or what r ur thoughts pooh <3

[Lukewarm]

Okay, I think that there is exactly 1 scum between T3 and Johnny.

If I had to choose an elim today, I think I am leaning T3. Mainly because I had a scum read on T3 for most of Day 1 and because of 1134, but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.

Spoiler:

Also, would feel bad about eliming the replace in so quickly

VOTE: T3

BRUH R U KIDDING ME. pls give me credit ;-;

i literally said this !!!

Give you credit?

Bruh. Your comments had nothing to do with my read? If anything, you said a lot of things that contradict my own position

Spoiler:

honestly, hopefully im not wrong again but there is no way this fucking flips town.

I am not this convinced. I actually think T3 is more likely to flip scum, and therefore I think it is more likely that Johnny is Town

Really not liking the replacement. VOTE: Johnny
If this is town the VFP is scum.

Okay, so I am gonna be busy for a lot of today, but will be back for a closer look this evening. Just doing a quick skim during my break, and this posts stood out to me. Feels like scum trying to link miselims, and honestly not sure how he came to this conclusion. Like VFP is not the loudest pusher on Jonny, and Johnny has been pushing Grandpa over VFP. Over all, confused by this post if coming from town.

Still not sure how I feel about Jonny atm. Will need to give the thread a closer look later, before I can vote.

Yea... I was thinking about if Johnny flips town, then there HAS to be mafia between VFP and T3 and I linked that earlier.

Again, we are approaching this differently. You are starting with Johnny. I am starting with 1134 is super fucking scummy, and so much so that it stood out to me on a brief scan

And like, even if some of our thoughts are aligned, that does not mean I thought them because you happened to get to the thread faster then me, because, like, we are reading the same thread???

[Lukewarm]

also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol

this is sorta true lol...

but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.

And why you out here lying?

I

convinced

you

that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao

Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:

The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:

Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.

and then I come in with my read list

My current reads are

Scum Lean

T3
Professor Drapion

Oh, and look, its

me making a case against T3

- 290 and

me pointing out suspicious things from T3 again

373

And look. Here

you are QUOTING ME,

the first time you seems even the slightest bit suspicious of T3

VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.

I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.

??

I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?

Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.

And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383

And AFTER I posted that case / vote

ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3

Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.

pls give me credit ;-;

But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo

[GrandpaMo]

Okay, I think that there is exactly 1 scum between T3 and Johnny.

If I had to choose an elim today, I think I am leaning T3. Mainly because I had a scum read on T3 for most of Day 1 and because of 1134, but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.

Spoiler:

Also, would feel bad about eliming the replace in so quickly

VOTE: T3

BRUH R U KIDDING ME. pls give me credit ;-;

i literally said this !!!

Give you credit?

Bruh. Your comments had nothing to do with my read? If anything, you said a lot of things that contradict my own position

Spoiler:

honestly, hopefully im not wrong again but there is no way this fucking flips town.

I am not this convinced. I actually think T3 is more likely to flip scum, and therefore I think it is more likely that Johnny is Town

Really not liking the replacement. VOTE: Johnny
If this is town the VFP is scum.

Okay, so I am gonna be busy for a lot of today, but will be back for a closer look this evening. Just doing a quick skim during my break, and this posts stood out to me. Feels like scum trying to link miselims, and honestly not sure how he came to this conclusion. Like VFP is not the loudest pusher on Jonny, and Johnny has been pushing Grandpa over VFP. Over all, confused by this post if coming from town.

Still not sure how I feel about Jonny atm. Will need to give the thread a closer look later, before I can vote.

Yea... I was thinking about if Johnny flips town, then there HAS to be mafia between VFP and T3 and I linked that earlier.

Again, we are approaching this differently. You are starting with Johnny. I am starting with 1134 is super fucking scummy, and so much so that it stood out to me on a brief scan

And like, even if some of our thoughts are aligned, that does not mean I thought them because you happened to get to the thread faster then me, because, like, we are reading the same thread???

i was referring to me bout the scum between t3 and johnny lol.

we aren't approaching this differently.. because u are still willing to vote either or.

sorry im just a LITTLE frustrated...

[GrandpaMo]

but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.

"but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment."

((

[GrandpaMo]

also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol

this is sorta true lol...

but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.

And why you out here lying?

I

convinced

you

that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao

Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:

The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:

Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.

and then I come in with my read list

My current reads are

Scum Lean

T3
Professor Drapion

Oh, and look, its

me making a case against T3

- 290 and

me pointing out suspicious things from T3 again

373

And look. Here

you are QUOTING ME,

the first time you seems even the slightest bit suspicious of T3

VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.

I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.

??

I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?

Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.

And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383

And AFTER I posted that case / vote

ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3

Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.

pls give me credit ;-;

But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo

WAIT LMFAO I COMPLETELY FORGOT .


i dont think i used ur thing tho...

i provided my own scumcase however ig i looked at it more of like hey i was the one who wanted t3 out but since u vote drap it doesnt count

[GrandpaMo]

also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol

this is sorta true lol...

but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.

And why you out here lying?

I

convinced

you

that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao

Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:

The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:

Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.

and then I come in with my read list

My current reads are

Scum Lean

T3
Professor Drapion

Oh, and look, its

me making a case against T3

- 290 and

me pointing out suspicious things from T3 again

373

And look. Here

you are QUOTING ME,

the first time you seems even the slightest bit suspicious of T3

VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.

I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.

??

I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?

Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.

And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383

And AFTER I posted that case / vote

ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3

Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.

pls give me credit ;-;

But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo

WAIT LMFAO I COMPLETELY FORGOT .


i dont think i used ur thing tho...

i provided my own scumcase however ig i looked at it more of like hey i was the one who wanted t3 out but since u vote drap it doesnt count

yea... when i was reading ur case... i realized that you might have been town hence why i backed off at you and looked at someone other than u . then t3 post stood out in which you made a comment on -- and that's on intuitive thought.

[GrandpaMo]

also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol

this is sorta true lol...

but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.

And why you out here lying?

I

convinced

you

that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao

Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:

The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:

Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.

and then I come in with my read list

My current reads are

Scum Lean

T3
Professor Drapion

Oh, and look, its

me making a case against T3

- 290 and

me pointing out suspicious things from T3 again

373

And look. Here

you are QUOTING ME,

the first time you seems even the slightest bit suspicious of T3

VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.

I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.

??

I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?

Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.

And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383

And AFTER I posted that case / vote

ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3

Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.

pls give me credit ;-;

But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo

sorry for spam posting

but also yea, you are right-- i think we are all on the same page. well at least me and you.

i just thought Pine was scum gave reasoning >>> A50 comes out and says to pivot to T3 (in which I scumread day 1 and never retracted) >>> We vote T3 >>> Solve's Johnny's allignment imo.

Or we stick to johnny vote >>> T3's allignment gets solved day 3.

[Lukewarm]

@ProfDrapion, I just think T3's entrance was genuine emotionally

it's very simple and straightforward but also like the type of slightly scummy posting scum tends to want to avoid

when I look for scum entrances I look for the posters who are trying to make themselves look good

I mean it’s NAI mostly, scum or town can say that.
It’s just that I don’t find it as a good entrance compared to others.
I do have to agree with you that scum may try and go for the LAMIST play.
(As in try and look Townie as much as they can)

like why is drap shading t3 to dann here lol

This could easily be textbook distancing. Just went back over Drap's ISO, and he never shades T3 over ANYTHING except for his very first post (and even in the post you quoted called it NAI )

So I decided to look over every single time ProfessorDrap stated any opinion one way or another on T3

Spoiler:

WTF VOTE: pooky

Nice entrance.

T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.

T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel

Still observing Pooky and T3 carefully.

Professor’s Reads

ProfessorDrapion

Bingle

Menalque

Dannflor

GrandpaMo

VFP

Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear

T3

ManWithNoName
Pine

Gypyx

Lukewarm

Pretty bog standard distancing imo. FoS your partner for something small, that could never result in them getting voted out (like their very first post / RVS vote). Put them in your scum leans, but with other people listed as scummier then them so you can FoS your partner, but push other people.

UNTIL.

I start making a case against T3, and Grandpa believes me, and both of us vote T3. Now what does Professor Drap say? (Grandpa's case/vote was 498)

I’m still thinking T3 is Town but I’m also not entirely confident in that.

Like where did that come from?

[Lukewarm]

In summary Pooky, I don't buy that Drap shaded T3 too much for them to be partners

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok why does scum t3 shoot dann when dann is TRing him?

[Almost50]

ok why does scum t3 shoot dann when dann is TRing him?

1- Low activity fooled him into thinking Dann was a PR?
2- He didn't make the call. The other Scum did?

[lendunistus]

Open 810 Official Vote Count - 2.5

T3

(4): Almost50, JohnnyFarrar, VFP, Lukewarm

JohnnyFarrar

(3): PookyTheMagicalBear, GrandpaMo, T3

VFP

(1): Gypyx

Not Voting

(3): Not_Mafia, Menalque, Bingle

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to shove someone’s head into an energy core.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-05-20 15:00:00)

[Lukewarm]

ok why does scum t3 shoot dann when dann is TRing him?

Idk... pr hunting?

Why does the Professor FoS T3, but then pass on the chance to vote him, and even lightly disagree with a case being built against him?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

most players when they get scum do not like to get their hands dirty

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok why does scum t3 shoot dann when dann is TRing him?

1- Low activity fooled him into thinking Dann was a PR?
2- He didn't make the call. The other Scum did?

ok who would be threatened by dan? there isnt a lot in the iso in terms of suspicions

also when does low activity = pr lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im fine with the t3 elim. he hasnt done anything that would make me think hes like definitely townie. just the game state feels its unlikely to be t3 red here. i might be wrong and im kinda losing care

the game should move foward. the fence sitters need to come make a decision

[Almost50]

also when does low activity = pr lol

To some this is indeed a PR tell. Trust me.

As for who was threatened.. I have no idea, but it sure didn't have to be that way. If Dann was Babysitter then it's 2 PRs for one shot (as per Bingle's plan). If the kill failed they'd know he was the Alien. Not bad a shot EVEN if they were not threatened by him directly but still thought he might be a PR.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you think t3 thought this was a pr tell and shot the dude tring him?

i mean this is kind of a stretch of imagination for me

[Lukewarm]

[Professor, T3, Pooky] scum team?