Open 814: CultD3 CULT WINS

[Korina]

stole this pagetop

work vc 2.3:
raya (3, e-2) - mark, enchant, t3
T3 (2) - raya, dwlee

not voting - anyone not listed, but especially umlaut and flea since they both uv'd since last vc

deadline: june 30th @ 14:25 edt, (so about nine days from now, as of writing this)
majority is five since eight are alive

im v/la currently

[Enchant]

Alright, alright.

For first. I don't say Osuka is guilty. I say, he is not "Clear", or Confirmed Town, atleast in my eyes. Because Cult simple could not to act. Even if you say that's not effective.
For second, i don't need drive miselim on T3. I could just hammer T3 and be happy with -1 Day from town, if i am cult (what you would do, lynch me?).

[Enchant]

Idk if this was slip and T3 was person Flea tracked before get converted, which is somewhatpossible.

[Korina]

Osuka has been prodded.

[Flea The Magician]

Osuka also not clean, wtf

This should be a big flag as it implies a direct counterclaim to my clearing.

If Enchant has a guilty, I have a clear.
We then eliminate there, and then T3 either no actioned as cult or enchant is lying and is culted trying to drive the mislim, unless minion flip then we're back at square one.

I don't remember Enchant claiming a result either, despite claiming they have not been culted. I may be wrong, I'm going to go look.

WHAT THE FUCK YOU JUST WRITE.

ALREADY EXPLAINED SIMPLE TWO THINGS.

1. I AM NOT CONVERTED, WHILE I AM BLATANT TARGET FOR THAT.
2. CULT KNEW FULL SETUP AND KNEW THERE'S TRACKER AROUND.

WHY YOU EVEN WRITE "T3 EITHER NO ACTIONED AS CULT" IF YOU CHECKED OSUKA, NOT HIM.

I had cop in my brain, and my preview has some amsuing stuff in it...

[Flea The Magician]

Alright, alright.

For first. I don't say Osuka is guilty. I say, he is not "Clear", or Confirmed Town, atleast in my eyes. Because Cult simple could not to act. Even if you say that's not effective.
For second, i don't need drive miselim on T3. I could just hammer T3 and be happy with -1 Day from town, if i am cult (what you would do, lynch me?).

Idk if this was slip and T3 was person Flea tracked before get converted, which is somewhatpossible.

So, from my perspective, Osuka is clear and you were recruited because why would you not be? That you're taunting me with "What you are gunna do about it if I am cult?" is far too flippant for you and hints I'm on the right path.

Why would I crumb that I'm tracking Osuka TWICE, and then target T3?

Why do you want this elimination so bad?

[Flea The Magician]

6 days to go,

Osuka or Major minor

are the wagons. Pick one, and lets have it.

Both slots are low-content and evasive (to the point of offensively so in Osukas case).

I'll be keeping an eye whoever isn't eliminated of the two.

Enchant, I am disappointed in you. You knw you're getting culted tonight, right?

There was a reason I wanted the straight answer, and that's because CC options are now HEAVILY limited and there's no wiggle room for later.

I genuinely think Major Minor is the wagon for today, and

I'll be keeping an eye on Osuka

because I have sus on that slot too.

Little reminder.

[osuka]

What are the chances osuka flaked anddidn't do an action?

it takes five seconds and zero effort to submit a night action

if i were cl, which i'm not, and if i hadn't submitted a night action, which doesn't apply, i can assure you it wouldve been intentional

[osuka]

Would be really good to hear from Osuka rn on recent developments and see where is vote is at

i dont wanna vote right now because i dont know what the vc is at since i havent finished catching up, but i will state for the record that i'm liking the raya exec today

i would also like to get enchant as i do think hes cult but i doubt he's CL, so i'm not sure what the correct course of action is here. first cult game on ms

[osuka]

alright finished catching up

enchant keeps writing the braindead takes. everything that he's said over the course of the past 2 pages is either obvious or logically questionable
flea could just be gambiting and actually be cult because cult has setup info, but i dont really know why of all people i would be the clear. i don't think there's a lot of reason for me to question this slot right now
mark is sort of screaming town atm so i'm fine with leaving that slot alone for the time being

VOTE: raya
this is e-1

[Enchant]

6 days to go,

Osuka or Major minor

are the wagons. Pick one, and lets have it.

Both slots are low-content and evasive (to the point of offensively so in Osukas case).

I'll be keeping an eye whoever isn't eliminated of the two.

Enchant, I am disappointed in you. You knw you're getting culted tonight, right?

There was a reason I wanted the straight answer, and that's because CC options are now HEAVILY limited and there's no wiggle room for later.

I genuinely think Major Minor is the wagon for today, and

I'll be keeping an eye on Osuka

because I have sus on that slot too.

Little reminder.

I could quote any of my message where i accused/said anything and say this is crumb.

That's how bad your crumbs are.

[Flea The Magician]

Then please do enchant, put your money where your mouth is.

It's rare reading between the lines is works with me, even if you're looking for crumbs they can be hard to track down if you're going for that approach.

Because ya know, I like hiding in plain sight.

[Dwlee99]

Just checking in.

[Enchant]

How Flea even know how many time exact player waste on reading role.

This is my crumb i use ability on Flea. Prove otherwise.

[Flea The Magician]

Ok, so thats your crumb.

Wheres the rolestop implication?

I stated what I was doing, which was keeping an eye on them. The implication is that I am observing them, therefore I am tracking or watching.

[T3]

So Osuka clear, T3 I'm willing to biasclear based on reaction, Enchant is CL clear (with no claimed result I can remember, I might add).

Leaves Dwlee, Marky, Raya, and Umlaut.

I won't lie I skipped over the Marky Raya debate so I'll have to look there before coming to any more conclusions.

T3 whats your thinking on Umlaut currently?

I don't agree actually, i don't think T3 could just mistake he was hammered, either he is bad with attention or imitate it.


I don't want clear T3, i just laugh from your statement, which is literally impossible.

I don't like to say I townslipped but.....


I saw Umlaut and Flea saying stuff about me being at e1.

[T3]

Cultedspec is pointless because of WIFOM but ekither Enchant or Umlaut was recruited in my mind.

[Enchant]

About Major i need look closely, i missed whole thing

Just put it on accident. I could use it as tracked crumb as well.

[Enchant]

Cultedspec is pointless because of WIFOM but ekither Enchant or Umlaut was recruited in my mind.

How the fuck i could be convert if i didn't hammer you?

As convert i lose nothing from hammering townie.

[Flea The Magician]

842 is fair. Either way, what are you wanting to gain from this, saying my crumbs are crap?

Side note, you forget I've seen your scumgame Enchant, I wouldn't put this past you to be your cult game.

WIFOM ignored, Who's on your scumlist?

[Raya36]

VOTE: Raya
The osuka wagon is terrible.

Hm, going back to cult making up reasons to scumread me

Just coming back to some of Raya's stuff from last night

I didn't avoid taking positions though. Reread my iso.

I have been town reading slots but it's not normal to full out town case people. I stated my town reads and that's enough.

I genuinely think the solve here is Raya + Osuka + 1 more (probs enchant). Both Raya and Osuka made an art form out of avoiding taking a position during this game (and no, a TR mentioned in passing v early d1 on Flea doesn't cut it when we all know such early reads are subject to change as the game starts to flesh out a bit more)

Look at Raya's push on me - she talks a good game about why I'm scum but is still voting T3 and not me. Why? probably because T3 is closer to elim right now.

I've actually been thinking about my solve a bit and I'm pretty sure what's happening here is I'm right about T3 being the cult leader, so cultist, Marky, is attacking me for made up reasons to take my attention away from T3 since I'm the one pushing T3 the hardest.

Now the question is whether that reaction was genuine or he faked this all with enchant.

Well if we're going with Enchant is the recruited cult here then it makes a lot of sense that Enchant let T3 know it wasn't actually a hammer so he could react that way then they could come in and say actually it wasn't hammer. Timestamps are around 5m apart too.

I really don't think that that spew clears t3 and that enchant wants it to so badly should raise red flags.

This. Look at the times. Think about it in perspective of T3 and Enchant being scum together. It makes a lot of sense

There is absolutely 0 fire in T3s "hammer" reaction. If I thought someone had quickhammered me, I'd be mad, regardless of whether I thought they were town or not

That doesn't necessarily mean T3 is scum (and Raya voting him while seeing to SR me more in terms of her posts point to this being a potential miselim) but it's certainly not a townflail IMO

And here's the distancing. It's fence sitting

Conclusion: I'm leaving my vote on T3

[Marky Mark]

I don't like to say I townslipped but.....

Hmmmm.jpg

[Marky Mark]

Hm, going back to cult making up reasons to scumread me

Utterly subjective

[Dwlee99]

Which slot being dead gives us the most info.

[Marky Mark]

I've actually been thinking about my solve a bit and I'm pretty sure what's happening here is I'm right about T3 being the cult leader, so cultist, Marky, is attacking me for made up reasons to take my attention away from T3 since I'm the one pushing T3 the hardest.

Yeah, I'm definitely not pushing you because you're scummy