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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:50 am

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Acknowledge the trust, don't have to accept it.
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:50 am

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oh wow thats a lot of pressure
do i quickly get the hell out of this game and never look back or do i stay and listen to wisdom keeping me as lockscum for the rest of the game without trying to change his mind
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:51 am

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Trust: Prism

yeah get me out
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:52 am

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yay i guess
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:52 am

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Cool. Tammy/Wisdom tomorrow.
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:52 am

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I was scum but this game is just so fucking stupid
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:53 am

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wait seriously?
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:53 am

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and here i was before the trust about to make a post about scum!prism being fucking terrifying to play against
got bamboozled again
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:53 am

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In post 1720, MafMen wrote:
In post 1718, cool cookie wrote:
In post 1708, MafMen wrote:
In post 1706, cool cookie wrote:
In post 1704, MafMen wrote:
In post 1702, cool cookie wrote:just catching up on last few pages. slightly surprised to see the charm offensive from Prism to Tammy - seems like a very eager push to lock in a reciprocated trust and leave the game, which doesn't accord well with a player who holds themselves to high standards and would perhaps be happy to remain around to influence the crunch decision(s) later. If Prism really believes she can leave whenever she wants and really cares about solving the game, not sure I understand why she would be so desperate to leave today and not play a part in those decision(s). still reading...
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thats what you took from what she said?
big misrep there
can you explain what you mean here?
my bad probably more accurate to call it strawmanning
are you able to be specific? in what way do you think it was strawmanning? I don't see it.
because you somehow got "prism is desperately trying to exit the game" instead of "prism is anxious about the alignments of wisdom/enchant"
its definitely not a good look to misrep someones argument this hard
This suggests to me you can't have read the last 5 pages, which makes me feel slightly better about your assessment my play in that time has been crap. In my view, both the above are true, and I did opine on both. Prism did express uncertainty about the alignments of Wisdom and Enchant. Prism also launched an increasingly urgent campaign to get Tammy to trust her. Prism herself has acknowledged this was the case. In places it was subtle and neat, in others it was completely unabashed and explicit. I'm not sure what else I can say if you haven't read the relevant posts, but simply - not guilty on the charge of misrep.

my next question would be, why does a town player falsely accuse someone of misrep? error perhaps. although backtracking from "misrep" to "strawman" under pressure and then going back to "misrep" is interesting. even if you were correct, not sure strawmanning is the right term.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:54 am

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dont remember you having this meta as scum but i guess its been awhile
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:54 am

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C'est la vie

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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:54 am

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i don't get you prism
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:55 am

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ez throw but im not in this game anymore so i no longer have any responsibility
peace
im never checking this thread again lolol
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:56 am

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Weren't you supposed to be not-an-alt?
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:56 am

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oh boy
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:58 am

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Spoiler: It's only fitting that I leave you with a song
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:58 am

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In post 1721, Prism wrote:1714 gives me an aneurysm because it's divining that my confidence in my scumgame is equivalent to my confidence in my towngame and ability to solocarry. It spins a hypothetical alternative around that false equivalence and directly dismisses the original scum description out of convenience. I have an extensive record of solocarrying games as scum and not losing my composure even in a 4 way where town got 3 guesses on the last scum. I have an extensive record of trying this hard, getting this frustrated, and being unable to carry it as town.
I think you're overthinking the amount of actual evidence i had here - i simply took what you said and deduced it was more likely you are scum than town. if your defence amounts to "I'm great as scum, but useless as town" I'd say that is inconsistent with your previous assertion of setting very high standards for yourself as town.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:58 am

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on the brightside apparently tammy was going to trust prism so i can shirk some guilt
unless prism and tammy played the best goddamn games of their lives and are mafia
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:59 am

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Iceland was probably my best game but was overkill. This one was boring and middling.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:00 am

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if you and tammy are theatre thats still crazy
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:00 am

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Remember kids, you can always trust Pooky to read me correctly

Even when he's been wrong repeatedly lmao
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:01 am

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In post 1740, Prism wrote:
Spoiler: It's only fitting that I leave you with a song
i hate you jfc
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:01 am

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oh i just saw what happened. damn.

but if true there's nothing more i could have done - i tried to my best to explain a Prism-scum scenario here. at least it would mean MafMen was wrong to call me crap.
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:02 am

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Trust Count (2.3)


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[TRUSTED] MafMen
[1] Prism
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(expired on 2021-11-08 14:39:53)


The first round of discussion had gone well. Two Digitalists trusted each other, and their physical bodies were atomized at precisely the moment their minds were uploaded into PARADISE. How else do you ensure continuity of consciousness, after all?

This, to the Fallen, was another blaspheme. A copy was a copy; it was not the original. This was murder, plain and simple. To ascend was to commit suicide for the sake of someone who was not yourself. Unacceptable.

Two more joined hands. Two more entered the disintegration chamber. And the population counter for PARADISE ticked up two more times. After a period of observing these digital representations, the truth was determined.




MafMen,
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Prism,
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This is a nightless game. The thread will be unlocked and day 3 will begin in a few minutes.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:08 am

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Trust Count (3.0)


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(expired on 2021-11-10 14:08:20)





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