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what is the best way to get into this game? page-by-page catchup, or diving headfirst and feeling the current as it runs?
In post 800, T3 wrote:
haha, then you're not going to be getting thoughts in chronological order of what I've readIn post 836, Galron wrote:Just jump on in Taly. You'll fall asleep reading.
In post 760, numberQ wrote:Take after skimming back through day 2: Meg's interactions with both of the wagons are sus as hell and I think they are scumbuddies with Egix.
Does mafia dumbtell this?In post 761, numberQ wrote:I also think Almost is town and this wagon on him is weird. If my {Meg, Egix} theory is right, I think the remaining scum is on that wagon.
How so?
I'm likingIn post 837, numberQ wrote:The conversation right now is mostly about the wagons that are currently happening, so probably necessary to at least read the current day. Beyond that, this game has honestly been pretty slow.
pedit: Well I'm voting Egix and have been SRing him since day 1. I think his lim will help build associations on Roden and/or Galron. Maaaybe RH9, though at the moment I think that's a flimsier connection. I've talked about this in previous posts this day.
ick, where's theIn post 841, RH9 wrote:To be fair, if Egix96 is Mafia, we can vote Roden next.
FINALLY SOMEONE KEEPS UP WITH VC.In post 851, RH9 wrote:And now you're back to E-2.
eh, I'm not following this much becauseIn post 858, numberQ wrote:So you're saying scum would trade one of their own for me? I'm flattered you think I'm that good, but the facts are that I was very close to being limmed anyway. A scum team including you could have easily banked on town hammering to maintain reputation.In post 848, Egix96 wrote:You do realise that if I were scum, it would have been +ev for me to lolhammer you? Sure, that would have been outing, but it ensures you would've died before me.In post 833, numberQ wrote:Hmm. I don't know, I still like Egix for the lim. Their play has been scummier than Roden and Galron imo. Plus, them flipping scum will give us a lot more info than one of the other two flipping scum, at least in terms of lending validity to my theory. Maybe there are other associations that a Roden or Galron flip would shed light on that I'm not thinking of.
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That said, while writing the above I did realize that with a perfect scum game three days in, maybe trading would have been the play for scum to make. It would have put the game in ELo if I'm not mistaken.
What do others make of this idea that Egix would have hammered me if he was scum?
I did a similar thing in Squid Game, and I was mafia there. But I blame it more on being super busy with work the past few months and thus slightly scatterbrained, more than any kind of meta or tell. fwiw I don't think I've ever had a mix up like that in other games, as mafia or town.In post 853, Taly wrote:In post 760, numberQ wrote:Take after skimming back through day 2: Meg's interactions with both of the wagons are sus as hell and I think they are scumbuddies with Egix.Does mafia dumbtell this?In post 761, numberQ wrote:I also think Almost is town and this wagon on him is weird. If my {Meg, Egix} theory is right, I think the remaining scum is on that wagon.
My case on Egix is a little scattered. I guess it starts in 236. He was more or less off my radar day 2. Then today the wagons on Almost and myself are pinging me like crazy that it's scum trying to keep us off Egix. That's also where my Roden/Galron associations come up, because of their interactions with both of those wagons. If Egix is in fact scum, I think it's likely his scum buddies were trying to protect him. Which is why I want Egix to go first.Taly cont. wrote:I'm likingIn post 837, numberQ wrote:The conversation right now is mostly about the wagons that are currently happening, so probably necessary to at least read the current day. Beyond that, this game has honestly been pretty slow.
pedit: Well I'm voting Egix and have been SRing him since day 1. I think his lim will help build associations on Roden and/or Galron. Maaaybe RH9, though at the moment I think that's a flimsier connection. I've talked about this in previous posts this day.RH9at the moment
Can you quote key posts that build your scumread onEgix?
And what do you mean by'build associations on? This sounds like confbias but I want to hear you explain.Roden/Galron"
I don't think scum is likely to rep into a game with a large focus on meta'ing the majority of the plist. On one hand, it can be said that meta is a mask to hide an informed perspective, but the doubt with this being true forIn post 859, Galron wrote:Please expand on this.In post 853, Taly wrote:I'm liking RH9 at the moment
In post 829, Almost50 wrote:Now here's someone that will probably win the game for their team. Now which team is that?In post 827, T3 wrote:Taly replaces redtea.
No opinion onIn post 868, Egix96 wrote:On D1 I was townleaning Gamma for heuristic reasons and not much has happened regarding that slot to change that.In post 865, Taly wrote:Egix, can you talk about yournumberq/gammaread progression from early game to now? I noted both slots racked a lot of votes and you didn't jump on either wagon from what I've read.
On D2 I had number as my top TR after doing some re-reading. Ofc I still TR him it's just that I have lost a bit of confidence in my reads since Penguin flipped town.
I don't follow what you're saying here dollIn post 875, RH9 wrote:Didn't Taly replace redtea? But then, looking back, I think that it is just Taly's playstyle and I mislabbeled it. No, I thought that before, but Taly feels quite Town to me. And I thought that Taly would be writing longer but wrote quite less before.In post 857, Galron wrote:RH9, you came in and mis-labeled Taly as scum in a meta dive, and then said Taly feels different this game when Taly had made just two posts, one asking the best way to catch up and the other a solvey-type post. Then you figure out that Taly wasn't scum in the game you quoted but you don't change direction on Taly.
How can you get a feel for Taly with him posting just twice. Shouldn't you be reading Gamma Emerald, the player that Taly subbed for? Wouldn't that produce better data? And if Taly's posting this game feels different that Slaughter Hour, are you saying that he's mafia this game? And how was Taly's posting to the point where you said he was different when he was mafia different this game anyway?In post 843, RH9 wrote:To be fair, Taly's current posting feels different to that of when he's Mafia.
I want you to justify 807Roden wrote:I don't think RH9 is scum just due to the sheer amount of effort he's put in already + Gamma was finally beginning to give me town vibes before he replaced out.
I think I want to boot NM at this point. Egix brought up a good point earlier:
It's really is weird that he's gone this far with so little attention, plus the weird play of actually trying to push out Q instead of going for the quick hammer. He's playing to elim whoever he can and seeing how long he can get away it.In post 766, Egix96 wrote:2. Yeah I think I saw it too.In post 764, Galron wrote:I tried re-reading the game, but it's just bleh. I don't see any reason to vote Egix other than he was the Counterwagon.
I did find one post where A50 was solving.
I'm not understanding why numberQ listed himself as scum in his reads list but I don't know that scum actually does that.
I wasn't real hip on Roden's post about having to force conversation, butI don't see much reason to scum read himand I think he came out townie at EOD2.
Redtea I thought might be scum, but I don't think scum loses track of the votes on Gamma Emerald.
I need to figure out where that leaves my POE.
I think the only way we figure this out is if we run some people up, and that's one of the reasons I voted A50.
3. I always thought that was just a joke tbf.
4. Agreed with bolded. Also I think I might be able to clear him for top-posting, since although he did post a lot as scum in my recent Newbie game, he was 5th overall.
5. You don't think they could've just lied about that?
7. Yeah, I'm feeling like this might be one of those situations where we need to yeet a low-content slot in order to prepare for Elo.
Starting with:
VOTE: NotMafia
I'm actually very surprised that he has managed to last this long without being scrutinised despite having so little content.
VOTE: NotMafia
I don't think scum waffles multiple times with little thought progression when they're already a popular wagon.In post 895, Galron wrote:What redeeems RH9 Taly?
If I wanted to impress you I'd throw GIFs of fruit and especially bananas fkcuxhspsoshskssljsnxkdudhdIn post 918, Almost50 wrote:I mean, I can't tell for sure if you are conf!biased or if you see something I can't see. I am leaning Town on Galron but my word isn't gospel on that one (i.e. it's a weak TR that I can't actually bet the game on). I am more sus of Roden tbh.
I also am not impressed by Taly's play so far, so gun-to-my-head I'd say it's Roden, Taly & Kyouko/N_M
Why the low WIM?In post 888, Roden wrote:NumberQ just got picked because Kyo pushed a scum read there and I wanted to get people talking. I consider it a good move because it got Q talking quite a bit and gave us more to work with in order to read him. His accusation against me that I coordinated a wagon on him in a PT was so reactionary and paranoid that it basically made him town tell.In post 828, Almost50 wrote:First: I wasn't complaining. I was asking for an explanation, which you seem to have provided in your third paragraph. Maybe you could have typed that one first, but I understand sometimes one feels like letting out some of the mental pressure.In post 807, Roden wrote:Can I do literally anything this game without somebody complaining about itIn post 801, Almost50 wrote:I don't even know why numberQ is being wagoned. I also notice that Roden and Galron moved there after having been on me. What's the deal with this? And why is N_M already voting (rather than the usual "wait for the lol!hammer")?
Like A50 do you think we have any leads whatsoever? Can we genuinely scum read anyone when less than half the players are even posting and literally every single person under pressure just chooses to roll over and die instead of pushing their scum reads? RH9 just got here yet they've added more content than some players who've been here since Day 1.
All I can do is vote and see how people react because literally nothing else is working. I can't even question people without them shutting down or acting like scum hunting is inherently toxic and that I need to stop talking. It took me almost two entire weeks to figure out what the fuck Gamma's read on me was, and even then he just replaced out afterwards anyway so it didn't even matter.
Second: I agree we don't have many leads. However, I still don't know WHY numberQ in particular. Why get the guy to E-1 "just to see what happens"?
Third: Based on #2, why won't you switch your vote to Egix at this time?
I didn't switch my vote yet because honestly I kinda just didn't want to play the past couple days. And everyone else was talking a lot so I wanted to see how it would go.
In post 934, Taly wrote:the flopping is endless omfg
Not_Mafia wrote:I think I'm town in this game let me check
Not_Mafia wrote:Oh no I was scum never mind
what would have been informative about that post?
then how do you feel about the individual votes and its wagon composition?In post 956, numberQ wrote:I felt the opposite about the N_M wagon, I think scum could have seen it as a way to get easy town cred off a highly inactive teammate.
In post 957, Almost50 wrote:Sorry, but you'd need to quote or link what you're referring to on both occasions for me to be able to respondIn post 955, Taly wrote:a50, can you reply to my prompt about your post prior to my entrance? also, galron wasn't in your solve EoD3 so what changed?
In post 829, Almost50 wrote:Now here's someone that will probably win the game for their team. Now which team is that?In post 827, T3 wrote:Taly replaces redtea.
In post 918, Almost50 wrote:I mean, I can't tell for sure if you are conf!biased or if you see something I can't see. I am leaning Town on Galron but my word isn't gospel on that one (i.e. it's a weak TR that I can't actually bet the game on). I am more sus of Roden tbh.
I also am not impressed by Taly's play so far, so gun-to-my-head I'd say it's Roden, Taly & Kyouko/N_M
Or we can answer it now because I'm not keen on being an elo-causing or final mislim, I have quite enough experience with that.In post 991, Almost50 wrote:Then we decide if Taly hammered N_M for credit,
talk to me bb what can 2can do for u?
any slot you want a consensus on?In post 1011, Almost50 wrote:In fact, maybe it was my own doing. I haven't been paying much attnetion and it went so far that I no longer feel like I have anything to offer.
fun helps solvingAlmost50 wrote:It would help with the FUN part, but not the solving part I'm afraid
I don't connect howIn post 977, RH9 wrote:You were on the opposing wagon. Roden gets killed. Almost50 has me convinced that you're Mafia.In post 974, Galron wrote:How am I getting framed?In post 963, RH9 wrote:Are you sure that Galron isn't getting framed? Honestly I feel like Galron did make a lot of pushes which is more likely done by Mafia looking for a easy push than Town. Would like Galron to respond as soon as possible because it is not looking good for him.
Someone will need to explain that to me.
I'm serious about wanting people to hit me up with questions or even assertions, shelving me only demotivates my WIM.In post 984, Galron wrote:I don't know who should be eliminated today. I'm leaning toward Taly, but it may be I just need to re-read redtea and hear more from Taly himself. I know your question was directed at A50, but I think I'm in his PoE, and I think he mentioned that earlier this phase. I've played enough with A50 that he should have something against me, because I'm nowhere near the player he is and I screw things up more often than not, but I don't think he's got a personal bias against me. I think it's just PoE.
Who do you think is most likely scum that nobody is speaking about?
Not feeling so interested in replying to 999?In post 991, Almost50 wrote:No it doesn't. It has to do with my belief his actions and justifications were less than optimum. I don't want to effort much, so take this one off the top of my head:In post 983, RH9 wrote:Almost50, your push on Galron has absolutely nothing to do with Galron voting you previously, right? Rereading everything at Galron's behest makes me wonder if your vote on Galron has something to do with Galron himself.In post 976, Almost50 wrote:I am not going to dignify Egix' case on me. It's not worth my time and effort.
numberQ (4): Roden, Not_Mafia, RH9, Galron
Why put numberQ @E-1 here if he wasn't committed to a SR on them? I rememeber him jumping on you too after that. And the last straw was him being on you instead of N_M.
I mean, from VCA alone I could go Taly or ssbm.
You know what?
VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko
She looks as bad as Galron on that VCA. Then we decide if Taly hammered N_M for credit, Egix was an early bus, or Galron tried to save his p.