Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]

[Shirou]

shirou i really don't understand where that sentiment is coming from in a world with tejate raichu and megazumarill.

:thonking:

maybe you'll understand tomorrow

[Tejate Raichu]

I still think if anything pushed your slot into day 3 elim status, it's your posts in the last couple of hours about not wanting to get elimmed day 3.

[Shirou]

I still think if anything pushed your slot into day 3 elim status, it's your posts in the last couple of hours about not wanting to get elimmed day 3.

we can talk more about this tomorrow

now...can someone hammer redtea I guess?

[Amazonian Legends]

Implosion - this might have been answered, so if so just tell me you addressed it and I’ll get to it as I’m catching up on the day.

part of your argument is that gl is scum due to the awkward turn around on imaginality, but you also argue later that red tea was town. In the world where they’re both town, what would be his purpose? I might be misremembering but I don’t think anybody else was viable outside those two.

Not sure what you mean - in the world where GL and redtea are both town? Or where redtea and imaginality are both town but GL is scum?

Assuming the latter, he could have various reasons for going onto imaginality, e.g. it lets him continue on redtea and save that mislim which he might have seen as more inevitable for later, or he thought he could get away with it/he thought he might make the switch as town and was trying to emulate, or he was trying to ingratiate himself with people on the imag wagon, or he was trying to continue the show of good faith to wagon when possible, etc etc.

Yeah in the world where red tea and imagine were both town. I guess I kinda thought that from the case you were making that it was opportunistic because he ultimately didn’t want to be on a scum redrew wagon, but you also think redtea is town.

I ask in part because I’m trying to gauge your case even though some things I don’t think are that scummy, and yes I know you’re writing it biased but things like thinking he was scum for bargaining with nq was a big thing I didn’t like from imagine. Anyway I’m also trying to decide how much I want to delve into the wagons yesterday. Yeah I don’t know this last bit is a kinda unformed thought I’m trying to figure out myself so I might come back to this later.

[GuiltyLion]

I feel a lotta feels about Shirou's claim being like, the most convenient one possible for scum!Shirou, gives an excuse to draw any additional N2/N3 docs, gives an excuse to not be copped, gives an excuse to not be limmed D3, gives an excuse to push/vote me on D4

and I also feel a lotta feels about while claiming today being extremely suboptimal from town PoV, it's not totally unreasonable to predict that the claim wouldn't be believed tomorrow and emotionally try to leverage it now

probably just gonna have to first try to dig out the third scum tomorrow over Shirou assuming redtea flips scum

[morph the cat]

I think that puts redtea at E-1.

Amazonians are still catching up so let's not hammer.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE: redtea

I suddenly wanted Morph dead. Idk why.

[implosion]

enchant locktown

[Tejate Raichu]

Man, getting this wagon through has been like pulling teeth.

[Amazonian Legends]

UNVOTE: redtea

I suddenly wanted Morph dead. Idk why.

Thank you thank you thank you.

Implosion -I like portion two of your case than one. Not sure where I stand at the moment, but that one felt less narrativey and more interpretive though.

Anyway I gotta shower and head to therapy. Maybe I’ll be all zen when I come back lol.

Please don’t end the day.

[Amazonian Legends]

Man, getting this wagon through has been like pulling teeth.

[Tejate Raichu]

Man, getting this wagon through has been like pulling teeth.

That was directed at the killing morph comment, not the unvote. Unvote was understandable.

[Amazonian Legends]

Oh I retract my emoji then!

[morph the cat]

UNVOTE: redtea

I suddenly wanted Morph dead. Idk why.

We posted intent yesterday when redtea first went to E-1 and we've been arguing to wait for Amazonians since that time.

I asked your predecessor to unvote yesterday and she just did more trolling about it.

So, thanks for the unvote!

[Cephrir]

Oh I retract my emoji then!

i don't; it was a good emoji.

[morph the cat]

All of you just slow down ffs.

[Cephrir]

i guess i shouldnt keep anything close to the vest when i could die tonight

if redtea flips scum i will think 2508 reveals TMI

[morph the cat]

Man, getting this wagon through has been like pulling teeth.

I don't understand how this is in reference to the morph comment.

Please expound.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE: redtea

I suddenly wanted Morph dead. Idk why.

We posted intent yesterday when redtea first went to E-1 and we've been arguing to wait for Amazonians since that time.

I asked your predecessor to unvote yesterday and she just did more trolling about it.

So, thanks for the unvote!

My predecessor did right if you can't persuade atleast one from 5 ppl to unvote.


I am actually considering alternative to chop someone else, but i find it unlikely people will follow.

Don't tempt fate with E-1 if you don't want someone dead btw.

[Tejate Raichu]

Man, getting this wagon through has been like pulling teeth.

I don't understand how this is in reference to the morph comment.

Please expound.

From my view, the people I think are scum have been trying to find any reason possible to not be on this wagon. I sort of knee jerked into thinking "we better not be starting a morph wagon right now" because I really do not want to give them another excuse.

[Cephrir]

is it like pulling teeth though, because this wagon went from 0 to 60 in no time flat.

im not saying thats a problem, wagon speed arguments are trash, but

[morph the cat]

UNVOTE: redtea

I suddenly wanted Morph dead. Idk why.

We posted intent yesterday when redtea first went to E-1 and we've been arguing to wait for Amazonians since that time.

I asked your predecessor to unvote yesterday and she just did more trolling about it.

So, thanks for the unvote!

My predecessor did right if you can't persuade atleast one from 5 ppl to unvote.


I am actually considering alternative to chop someone else, but i find it unlikely people will follow.

Don't tempt fate with E-1 if you don't want someone dead btw.

I guess Ydra wanted redtea dead?

[Tejate Raichu]

is it like pulling teeth though, because this wagon went from 0 to 60 in no time flat.

im not saying thats a problem, wagon speed arguments are trash, but

My problem isn't with the speed at which this wagon formed. My problem with the fact that it was an obvious wagon day 1 but got pivoted off of, was barely even talked about early today, and now that we're back here I see a lot of Shirou seemingly trying to pivot away from this while also saying that he's fine with voting it. But then not actually voting it until he realizes that he does not have the same wagon leading power that he did yesterday.

[Cephrir]

i certainly agree that shirou's behavior at the moment is bizarre. even if he is scum with redtea, is redtea really so crucial to his victory as to be worth imploding over? so i struggle to explain it in either case

[Enchant]

UNVOTE: redtea

I suddenly wanted Morph dead. Idk why.

We posted intent yesterday when redtea first went to E-1 and we've been arguing to wait for Amazonians since that time.

I asked your predecessor to unvote yesterday and she just did more trolling about it.

So, thanks for the unvote!

My predecessor did right if you can't persuade atleast one from 5 ppl to unvote.


I am actually considering alternative to chop someone else, but i find it unlikely people will follow.

Don't tempt fate with E-1 if you don't want someone dead btw.

I guess Ydra wanted redtea dead?

PERHAPS