Open 850: Democrabilities (Postgame)

[Alianna]

Sure, but you have to persuade the town with your arguments. This is not to say that you haven’t made arguments, but many of them are augmented by some questionable tactics. It’s so easy for scum to say things like “if you vote me, we lose,” “would you consider voting X?” and “Alianna do you think I’m town?” but those things don’t mean much.

[Alianna]

^
Oof, that was a disjointed mess. I need sleep.

[MegAzumarill]

Vote Count 3.1.1


furtiveglance (2*) Dunnstral, MalcolmTucker
Dunnstral (1) furtiveglance

Not Voting (3) Cat.Jpeg, Alianna, GoldfishFromTheMoon

With 6 alive it takes 4 to send someone away.
Deadline:(expired on 2022-05-30 07:43:44)

[Dunnstral]

I think Dunnstral's been way more careful than I have. I've been loud and outspoken.

Where am I being careful?

[Cat.Jpeg]

If Goldfish is mafia then she knew we would'nt track her though. If she aint mafia then she's almost definitely the NK. If she's town we get a Malcolm clear too. I think shes the best vote because it's likely shes mafia and im not sure enough about everyone else to risk the game (except I still townread furtive and strongly townread Alianna). Also Furtive and Dunnstral pls unvote, if you are town (and at least one of you must be) you're putting each other at e-1 in a way (because if another town votes one of you then mafia can just jump on and we will lose)

Neither player was functionally at E-1 at that point. Assuming TvS, the townie already has a scum voting for them and the scum isn't going to vote themself.

Well I was assuming TvT, should have not said 'at least one' though.
I think furtive is town. The only person they could be paired with is Goldfish anyway.
VOTE: Goldfish

[Cat.Jpeg]

Legitimately right now I don't have any idea who the scum is

Who is in your scumpool though. Do you have any conf towns besides malcolm?

[Cat.Jpeg]

Okay so this would be a lot easier if you guys knew I was town but this is why we should vote Goldfish

Under the assumption that:
- I am town (I obviously have logic that involves me being town)
- Alianna is town (I not only think she's town individually but don't see her paired with anyone either)
- For Malcolm to be scum Goldfish must be scum (because she would be lying about inform)
- Furtive and Dunnstral are not paired (duh)

No one can be paired with Malcolm besides Goldfish.
If either Dunnstral or Furtive is scum then Goldfish also is because she's the only one left they can be paired with.

[Alianna]

I'm down to four possible pairs (and if the scumteam isn't on my list, I will be very disappointed in myself).

- Cat/furtive
- Goldfish/furtive
- Goldfish/Dunn
- Goldfish/Malcolm

I'll need to go through Goldfish's interactions to check the last three.

I've ruled out Goldfish/Cat because Cat can't bus here. They're being tracked, so an elim on their partner is an auto-loss for scum.
I also don't think Goldfish is the NK target. Assuming that one of the listed pairs is the scumteam, either Goldfish is scum or Cat is scum. scum!Cat has no incentive to push the NK target. However, they have a huge incentive to kill someone else, push the person we expect to be NKed, and sell the idea that it can't go wrong.

[furtiveglance]

Cat/Dunnstral.

[Alianna]

I really don't see it.

[furtiveglance]

Then it's Dunnstral and YOU. *gasp*

[Alianna]

I've thought some more, and there's still more than one possibility that makes sense. But I think I need to make a decision.
I hope I'm not voting on the third mislim of this game.

VOTE: furtiveglance

E-1

If it's Cat/Dunnstral, I'll take the L.

[furtiveglance]

Malcolm, save me!

[Cat.Jpeg]

Please unvote Alianna most of your possibilities have Goldfish as scum. Why are you voting furtive

[Alianna]

Please unvote Alianna most of your possibilities have Goldfish as scum. Why are you voting furtive

furtive is scummier, despite having less possible partners.

[Alianna]

The lack of a hammer confirms we are not dealing with a scum!Cat/town!furtive scenario.

[Alianna]

But UNVOTE: for a second.

[Alianna]

Nope, VOTE: furtiveglance. If scum!Goldie comes in here and hammers this, GG, but I think my mind is made up.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

VOTE: furtiveglance

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Sorry guys

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Cat was right

[Alianna]

Dang it.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Hehe

[Dunnstral]

I mean, they're not scum with me so they're trolling or it was malcolm

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

It was me and malcom

Although maybe I should have left you to guess...