Also killing outside of prime cultists is a waste regardless? Cult don’t get recruits from non-prime deathsIn post 392, Enchant wrote:In post 391, Korina wrote:Killing a prime cultist is always good imo because it forces someone else to have to align with the cl, and act weirdly, so killing within vengefuls and getting the cultist out is good, because we have more people who are now aware of cl and have to maneuver weirdly to avoid cl.
Or cult forces paranoia like "ENCHANT IS CONVERTED CULT LET'S ELIM JUST IN CASE" while not really converting me.Korina wrote:Cult recruits a vengefulIn post 359, Beat wrote:???In post 356, Korina wrote:I still think killing the vengefuls today are good, because it stops the double-lim from going to cult
Explain this
They kill a prime cultist
Enchant govern-kills the vengeful d4
Cult wins
Or since we know there’s a scum in the vengeful, we still get to direct where the venge-kill goes without it being a scum-venge
Or really converting me.
Or whatever.
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Good point.In post 400, Korina wrote:Cult don’t get recruits from non-prime deaths- Nathann
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Because I think the Cult Leader is not within the Vengeful claims. So it's pro-Town to be wanting to kill outside of them.In post 383, Jacket wrote:
This is really weak, I have no idea why you'd townread someone for a purely mechanical argument.In post 345, Nathann wrote:Bella can be Townie for not wanting to go within the CC's.
Cat has just had content that's pretty inoffensive but that made it seem like they're trying to have some sorta presence. There's not much more than that; I don't have a great case on them or anything.Once again today begins this farce we call a trial.- Nathann
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It's almost like I later on said as such.In post 382, Jacket wrote:Worth noting: No progression or rationale on the vote, no case for why he now think Beat is cult.Once again today begins this farce we call a trial.- RH9
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EXCUSE ME WHATIn post 400, Korina wrote:
Also killing outside of prime cultists is a waste regardless? Cult don’t get recruits from non-prime deathsIn post 392, Enchant wrote:In post 391, Korina wrote:Killing a prime cultist is always good imo because it forces someone else to have to align with the cl, and act weirdly, so killing within vengefuls and getting the cultist out is good, because we have more people who are now aware of cl and have to maneuver weirdly to avoid cl.
Or cult forces paranoia like "ENCHANT IS CONVERTED CULT LET'S ELIM JUST IN CASE" while not really converting me.Korina wrote:
Cult recruits a vengefulIn post 359, Beat wrote:
???In post 356, Korina wrote:I still think killing the vengefuls today are good, because it stops the double-lim from going to cult
Explain this
They kill a prime cultist
Enchant govern-kills the vengeful d4
Cult wins
Or since we know there’s a scum in the vengeful, we still get to direct where the venge-kill goes without it being a scum-venge
Or really converting me.
Or whatever.- Korina
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Killing cultists outside of the prime ones is a waste because they can’t recruit off of that death?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Wdm the fuck you mean waste, we need to kill CL no more no less.In post 406, Korina wrote:Killing cultists outside of the prime ones is a waste because they can’t recruit off of that death?- Korina
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Enchant, might I suggest just not talking to me for the rest of the day? I don’t think it’s particularly productive atm, and I don’t wanna waste time talking about it, so I’m just gonna politely askGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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So instead of admitting of holes in your idea, you plainly trying to shut me up POLITELY. Just in case, i didn't even tried to shut you up and insult you. If your logic can't resist simple basic questions, then don't suggest, because badly thought ideas are worst.
And yes, there's big benefit in Not Killing Vengefuls, unless you somehow think there's CL, but it's not that.
Your answer also doesn't make sense. After one prime dies, i am in doubt forever, and i dislike idea where i am mislimmed because ppl say i am converted while i am not.- Beat
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Spoiler: Notable interactions of Bella, Cat, and Nathann
The three musketeers at work.
Cat.jpeg and Bellaphant work with each other through a majority of the game. Cat.jpeg encourages bad mech plays which isn't anything definitive, except the buddy/buddyness with Bella. Cat has notable instances of discrediting ideas or players as well as Bella ends up not contributing a lot and mainly plays defensive of cat and bella. Their only real 'push' is an OMGUS and most of the rest of their play appears like obfuscation rather than curiosity or 'solviness' They play to keep certain players alive which I think has high CL equity.
Nathann is the mostl iekly wrong here but notably is closer to the other two in townreads earlier on (before they may have decided who will claim vengeful) and drops most mention of the others after that point. It reeks of distancing but I can't find Nathann's role in cults plan (and if this is the team there is a particular direction they are guiding the game towards) except perhaps as a foil/distancing.
I think most of the [abridged] ISO speaks for itself but if any part of it escapes you as to hwy I bring it up just say so. I will be back before deadline but this is why I want to elim bellaphant, and I haven't seen stronger cases on anyone else yet.Has your voice been truly locked away?
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I see.In post 412, Beat wrote:Spoiler: Notable interactions of Bella, Cat, and Nathann
The three musketeers at work.
Cat.jpeg and Bellaphant work with each other through a majority of the game. Cat.jpeg encourages bad mech plays which isn't anything definitive, except the buddy/buddyness with Bella. Cat has notable instances of discrediting ideas or players as well as Bella ends up not contributing a lot and mainly plays defensive of cat and bella. Their only real 'push' is an OMGUS and most of the rest of their play appears like obfuscation rather than curiosity or 'solviness' They play to keep certain players alive which I think has high CL equity.
Nathann is the mostl iekly wrong here but notably is closer to the other two in townreads earlier on (before they may have decided who will claim vengeful) and drops most mention of the others after that point. It reeks of distancing but I can't find Nathann's role in cults plan (and if this is the team there is a particular direction they are guiding the game towards) except perhaps as a foil/distancing.
I think most of the [abridged] ISO speaks for itself but if any part of it escapes you as to hwy I bring it up just say so. I will be back before deadline but this is why I want to elim bellaphant, and I haven't seen stronger cases on anyone else yet.
Though, I'm still more for a Cat lim today than one on Bella.- GoldfishFromTheMoon
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EBWOPIn post 416, RH9 wrote:VOTE: Cat.Jpeg
I feel like she's likely to be Cult.
254 doesn't sit right.
It feels like she wants to get a Vengeful or Prime Cultist limmed.- BlueBloodedToffee
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@beat, that just seems like a lot of associations before a flip. Or that you've just got through three Isos and added a quote whenever we mention each others name -;there's no analysis of what's happening. Cats has just said they town read me and Nathann has told me the pro town thing to do is vote him! Also, even though I'm confused as to why Nathann being town is controversial, would scum (especially cl!Bella) just ride on others' scum read of him? If I'm cult and he's town, great - he is dead and might venge another town! If he's cult, cult get another recruit!
I'll take another look at cat.
P-edit maybe not.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Would you want me to switch to Bella?In post 419, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:That Cat vote is going to achieve nothing RH9, it's too late
Though, plurality means that she's going to get eliminated anyways unless somebody votes Nathann or Beat for some reason or another.- BlueBloodedToffee
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