Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[HitAlt]

So what are we sharing?
Or do we even care?
VOTE: pinturichhio

[HitAlt]

I think "Cat-in-a-boot" and evil-duck are ok for now.
Normal duck and pinturrichio seem to have romantic history, and I'm intrigued..maybe one will betray the other..
Saturnus, Nsg and Zoro all try.
Where does that leave me? ~7town if one of the lovers is scum.

[HitAlt]

Grandpa above might be scum.

[HitAlt]

VOTE: HeWhoSwings

[HitAlt]

HitAlt can you talk me through 1+ of those reads?

Not yet.
Gonna see what happens first.
You can stir your soup too much, you know?

[HitAlt]

HWS gonna be around for a bit?

I am.
What you wanted from the Grandpa, you can likely get from me too.

[HitAlt]

But I will let you do you as long as you swear you'll actually talk about things later

I don't like swearing.

[HitAlt]

ATM there isn't much I wanna talk to you abt

I'm sad now.

[HitAlt]

I think the worst is town here.

[HitAlt]

They can def. be chill as scum too, but I have a strong vibe.

[HitAlt]

I've only seen HWS once or twice on site.
No idea what to think of them yet.

[HitAlt]

JJ, explain what made you unvote?

This + her avatar being cute AF makes me think she is town.

[HitAlt]

I'm not 100% on her currently, sorry to say

Like the more I brag about me reading NSG

The more the observer effect comes into play

I can read her in games that I'm not playing in

This gives me scummy vibes.
Might be the RvS-mood affecting Dino here, but the tone is off.

[HitAlt]

Not really.

[HitAlt]

Wow, I didn't expect the game to start today

VOTE: zoronos

Posts like this always ping me too.
They aren't even that "late", so the whole "wow-thing" feels off.

I'm obviously nitpicking as we don't have much yet, but I'm bored so..

[HitAlt]

...aaaand Zoro is different here too. (I've now read two games from them)

[HitAlt]

Duck above is correct.
Pinochhio can seem like scum until D2, and then be such an obvious toen.
Dino likes to break setups so that part is NAI, but I stand my ground on his tone being off previously.

[HitAlt]

lol. might know who you are

We haven't played together enough for you to have a chance at that.
I seriously doubt it at least.

[HitAlt]

I'm determined to keep this alt a secret.
And I hope it will be a hit.

[HitAlt]

What's different about him?

The way they post.

[HitAlt]

Thanks, genius.

Hey, it's not my fault he asked a dumb question.
I don't feel like explaining tone-reads at this point of the game anyway - it often leads to players changing their posting.
Whether it's unknowingly or with a purpose, I want to observe first what happens with it.
I'm just jotting these down as I stumble along the sensations.
That is how I play.

[HitAlt]

Oh c'mon.
Can't we just agree it was at least a bit silly of a question?

[HitAlt]

VOTE: Zoronos
Convenient, you're the person before me in the list and in the thread.

By the way, does anybody knows this guy?

I think he has changed his avatar rather recently, no?
Used to be an old picture of with a white helmet?
Driving something that looked like a lawnmower?

[HitAlt]

..no, I was thinking of massive.
My bad.

[HitAlt]

Orfcz+duck are scum btw.
More certain of the duck.

VOTE: the worse

[HitAlt]

"welp i'm hitalt" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

What does this mean?

[HitAlt]

I genuinely think you have me pinned for a mislynch and jumped on board out of sheer opportunism.

There would be easier targets in the game if I wanted mislynch.
But so it happens, I want to buss you D1.

[HitAlt]

I genuinely think you have me pinned for a mislynch and jumped on board out of sheer opportunism.

There would be easier targets in the game if I wanted mislynch.
But so it happens, I want to buss you D1.

this is not what we discussed in the PT!

You didn't get the memo?
The boss isn't happy with your performance so far.

[HitAlt]

Orfcz+duck are scum btw.
More certain of the duck.

VOTE: the worse

you had me like 20% interested here and then you stopped

Your post wondering about the orfcz was a dead giveaway.

[HitAlt]

ofrhz sure sounds a lot like ofrhz

And

actually not sure why this wagon is happening, can someone give me a hand?

Seems either like a scum with TMI-knowing it's a mislynch, or scum softly trying to steer the wagon.
Scummy posts anyway.

[HitAlt]

I want to make Peking Duck.
Does it have to be killed first?

[HitAlt]

I haven't seen RC say "welp", but I'm familiar with his style.

[HitAlt]

I have no reason to reverse my scumread on the duck.
I'd argue we can see scum!Zoro more easily after duck really flips scum.
Pintu legit feels like town.
One scum in ruru/orcfz is probable.
Blackstra is likely town, and the ones who have poked/voted there so far likely have scum in them, looking for a potential mislynch.

[HitAlt]

Not gonna be online much today.
Happy to answer/comment more tomorrow or monday.

[HitAlt]

I have no reason to reverse my scumread on the duck.

Talk to me about why you scum read the duck.
Based on what you wrote prior, 344, you think he's TMI on the ofrhz (or defending a partner). Since then he seems to be claiming a town read on ofrhz .
You had an early town read on the the_worst 129 so there's clearly been some trajectory change in this read. You moved from 'duck is towny' to 'duck is scummy + [not sure on ofrhz ]' -> 'both ofrhz and duck are scummy'.

You missed my very next post after 129:

They can def. be chill as scum too, but I have a strong vibe.

I had a strong vibe

because they felt relaxed and "themselves" at that point.

That sensation wore off, and I think them not finding a good wagon yet is one implication of scum!worst.
Then their posts towards the one notable wagon today raised some real red flags, so now they are actually a scumread.

What have you thought about the duck's posting in the time since you initially pronounced that read?

He's certainly increased a lot in volume

, at least to my estimation.

..which is why I I put my words as in "I have no reason to reverse my read".
Volume is NAI on their part.

[HitAlt]

I'll probably try that either later today, or tomorrow.
Don't feel like writing walls right now.
And if anyone calls this stalling, I'll call them scum.

[HitAlt]

scuse fucking you?

the fuck are you basing this on? I'm suddenly thinking you have no idea what I'm like as a player, and your BoP bullshit is raising more red flags than anything.

This feels like faked aggression.
I have a very good assessment of you as a player, and I happen to know that you enjoy playing town way more than you enjoy playing scum.
I also know that while you are a good guy and like to "shitpost" for fun, you are very sharp and want to move the game forward all the time.
So what am I basing this scumread on?

VOTE: ofrhz
good thinkin tho!

Voted for ofrhz in post 455.
By the time of this post, there have only been surface-level questions posed, and no votes or ACTUAL pushing has been made.
Now, I know people play D1's very differently overall, and you are definitely not the laziest scumhunter D1 I've seen (even in this game).

But try to tell me this has been your normal D1 so far, and I'll call you a liar and make sure you get lynched before D3.

[HitAlt]

What's your Zoro-Duck link exactly?

It's there.
Theoretical scum!Zoro is working very hard to keep up appearances, and definitely doing good work at it.
But I feel like there's an underlying agenda there.
Looking to "dissolve cases" on some players, while very carefully shading others.
There might not be one single post that explains it to the point, but something like (from Zoro to worst)

So you think both of HitAlt's reads are bad then I presume (unless you'd like to claim scum).
Legit but inaccurate, or evil scum trying for mislynches?

Includes a pointless question, but gives the impression that they are having a legit discussion without TMI or other means of communication.
Then there's a post that "foreshadows" a push towards me in

Which now that I look back, was also a response to a thought from HitAlt...
I'm not sure if that's meaningful, but I was trying to untangle the wagon on the_worst earlier to decide if it was righteous or not, and HitAlt was part of that system as well.
Maybe coincidence.

Notice the tone here.
Yet again, the first impression is that Zoro is trying to sort, but in truth, all they say here is that they found "another link"(??) of me..doing something apparently bad. Or something. Not even entirely sure what that post means, but it gives off the vibe that I am more scummy than not.
Then there's this:

My current head scratch is the wagon on the_worst. Something about it feels off, but I'm frankly not sure what or even where to begin picking it apart.

It's only hard to pick it apart because he knows there are only town in the wagon, and the worst is his scumbuddy. #worriedcitizenact

HitAlt hadn't really conversed with the_worst much about AI things (that I picked up on) prior to the vote, so it looked a bit like the read came from nowhere. He explained later, but I'm not totally sure I buy it.

What is there to buy?
My reasonings to vote a player I have a very good meta- and tone-read on?
You don't need to buy it, but do you REALLY think my read and push come from a scum-agenda?
That is the only thing you need to actually worry about if you are an uninformed townie.

[HitAlt]

Then we got another post from Zoro AFTER my 424 that fits the bill.

Not only HitAlt; my phrasing is imperfect but

I meant to include the_worst in my vague suspicion

.

They likely really noticed the wagon was actually very small, and they had primarily took the stance that there's scum in HitAlt/Blackstar. Forgot to susp. the correct player there. The one that's actually wagoned.

I don’t suspect BlackStar, his part in the dance seems towny, but

something in the way the_worst and HitAlt have interacted bugs me and I can’t put my finger on precisely what or why.

Hint: there are four possibilities here, and if you think one of us is scum, only three then.
1.

Scum!TW

is trying to shade and discredit town!HitAlt for nailing them.
2.

Scum!HitAlt

is trying to push town!TW very transparently and pig-headedly because ???.
3.

Scum!TW

and

scum!HitAlt

are pulling off a form of scumtheater so overboard, that it will likely end with either or both of them dead/under heavy suspicion before D3. (good job us)
(4. Town!HitAlt is tunneling Town!TW because of ???-reads that are inaccurate, and TW fails to make HitAlt see the light.)

Understand that I'm not saying it's impossible for me to be wrong on TW, but I feel very confident.
If we are both town here, I'll be happy to raise a hand at the end of the game and say "my bad".
Won't say anything more than that though.

The wagon only ever got to two votes, it felt bigger to me I think

because of the flurry of posting it created

but when I checked the VC it was only HitAlt and BlackStar. And BlackStar wandered off it pretty fast

Huh, one might think me pushing TW has helped town at least in the sense that it created conversation? Scum!HitAlt is kicking himself in the shins, I can tell you that.

[HitAlt]

I want Duck lynched today, and if they flip scum, I want Zoro copped.
If I'm wrong about the Duck, I'm absolutely open to being copped, so that there's no need to swim in paranoia D2 because of my slot.
But feel free to disagree with everything I said, it's the whole reason I created this alt.

Also, a one-off note about the game so far:

once MathDino got to posting, the game got even more interesting.

[HitAlt]

Hey Hitalt
Pls no copping Hitalt or talking about who to cop, remember scum has a framer guys
We don't want to play a WIFOM game, just cop whoever

Sorry guys, I legit didn't realize this.

[HitAlt]

Yea, I can see why Zoro dislikes me being obv.town..
Tbf though, it wouldn't be outside of my scumrange to fake a townslip, but lol!meta am I right?

[HitAlt]

My problem with the worst is that I feel most of his posting has been fluffy and active lurk ish.

Yes.
They dislike being scum, at least compared to being town, so it fits.

[HitAlt]

By the way, I can see scum!ducky here as well, but I'm

not sure if he's the best day one lynch or not.

Guess it depends on other people's confidence.

Absolutely lynch him today.
And add NSG to the potential list of buddies when he flips scum.
I was wondering who could complete the trio.

[HitAlt]

I've played with you before too S_S.
I think you had an S as your avatar before?

[HitAlt]

Saturn, pixellated map, Fix-it Felix,

Foo Fighters album cover

, Saturn again.

Not sure what you might be referring to.

Concrete and Gold?
I always thought it had an S-motif if it's that one!

[HitAlt]

Omg, I so want ruby red to make an appearance in this game now

Why?
And what is that?

[HitAlt]

What's on your mind Hit?

I wasn't bored before, but I'm getting bored by people saying this game is boring.
I also think you are scum.
Such a tunnel has been formed, that I doubt I will ever find my way out of it.
So please agree to be our sacrifice to the blood god today, and we will mourn you if your heart is true after all.

[HitAlt]

If you're scum using this tunnel shit as a smoke screen I will akshully 1v1 u irl bro

Like, I'm willing to go way more in-depth with my reads the following day if I'm wrong about you here, but I doubt it.
I'm mainly a tone-reader anyway, and I tend to be correct about these things.

[HitAlt]

Dude have you actually caught scum in your career? One? Maybe two?

If only you knew.
And while you are undoubtedly very good at this game, your AtE and potrayed aggression isn't top notch yet.

[HitAlt]

Too many"not willing to lynch D1s".

[HitAlt]

I don't like HitAlt's playstyle and the same thing happened in another game where the other player was scum, but it would be a falacy to push him because of only one case.

You're too nice yourself, so obviously you dislike my style.

[HitAlt]

I see that MathDino isn't cleared yet either. (although I still enjoy their posting very much)
Good for us in the end I think.
Scum will have to show some of their hand when they kill if we refuse to lock anyone as town.

Tell me when you guys agree that the worst can be lynched today, and I'll be around to unvote at L-1. (???)

[HitAlt]

The world (okay, mafia games) is a better place that I've never drawn dayvig.

The worst would've been shot at something like page 5 if I were to have drawn that!

[HitAlt]

it's actually pretty hilarious how many people have, over the past few months, decided to fake a scumlean on me just to prevent me from getting nightkilled

So I wasn't the first one then..?
Wonder who the previous one to do it was..

[HitAlt]

However,

I have no interest in tearing it down unless I absolutely need to because I town read HitAlt

and it does me no good to either get into a 1v1 with someone I don't want to lynch or degrade the credibility of someone I think is town.

This is something town should always think about. Not necessarily say, but anyway.

He's wrong, but that's fine so I don't care unless circumstances force me to care.

I'd rather work with my town reads, not start wall offs with them.

This is good too.

That is,

my gut didn't think it was TvT but I wasn't sure what side the scum was on

or what was making me feel that way.

This is worse though, it leaves so much 50/50 in the air.

I decided HitAlt was likely town but

wasn't sure enough / enthusiastic about whether the worst was actually scum

to move forward solidly.

He's still in my PoE lynch pool.

So I'm searching for a lynch I am

more enthusiastic

about.

Very fence-sitty on the worst. Notice how TW is in a PoE lynchpool, but not a scumread.
Not apparently willing to lynch there D1? (another one of those this game)
Perfect place to put a scumbuddy/future mislynch in.

So this fits the bill of scum!TW=scum!Zoro. (or does someone disagree?), but also gives some credibility to scum!Zoro outside of scum!TW.
Urge to lynch the worst rises....

[HitAlt]

I hope everyone understands this is NOT a setup where we should leave any 50/50 lynches for later days..
With a framer out and about, there's absolutely no reason to "have faith" in PR's solving this for us anyway.
I think this should straight up mean that we push for lynches NOW, but I already know where this is going.

[HitAlt]

Sharing is Caring D1 VC #17

jjh927 (4): northsidegal, the worst, pinturicchio, ruru,
the worst (3): HitAlt, jjh927, Mathdino,
HeWhoSwims (3): davesaz, ofrhz, BlackStar,

Not Voting: Something_Smart, Zoronos, HeWhoSwims,

(expired on 2018-06-06 23:00:00)

As of this votecount, I think everyone should be voting in one of the three major wagons.
Already at this point I feel like one of these wagons has to be on scum, so we go about flipping someone so that the game can move forward. (Hint: duckduckduck)

I'd bet some money on two scum being on the same wagon as of this VC, and one on a separate wagon or unvoted.

[HitAlt]

Listen to MathDino.
If he is scum, at least he's being honest and astute here.

[HitAlt]

You think the worst is obvscum, fine. Who’s with him? What’s his team and why?

Now why do you require a team from him D1 preflips?
I think TW is surely scum, and at least one of his teammates is likely within Zoro/NSG/MathDino/evilduck/orfchfch.
See how many players I named?
Thats how you know.

Now, there's obviously the small % outlying chance that I'm wrong on TW, but until I see him flip anything else, he is scum.
MathDino I'm not worried about yet, because he WILL likely be the first NK, and if not, we then assess his play D2 more closely.
If it's town!Dino, we should be well off with him aboard D2.

I do not want anyone else but TW lynched today, simply because D2 isn't any easier with him around, no matter who else flips today/tonight.

[HitAlt]

MathDino I'm not worried about yet, because he WILL likely be the first NK, and if not, we then assess his play D2 more closely.

stop saying these kinds of things unless you specifically intend to influence the NK with your words

there are some town thought processes that are best left private and unsaid

You saying out loud what you think I'm saying out loud, because I'm implying and pushing for things that might not be the things I'm saying might not be smart.
You seeing something in my posts and then commenting on them to put them on display is not towny right now, and you know this.
Ask away D2/D3.

[HitAlt]

We should lynch TW today.
I won't budge from that.

We lynch jjh927, and we likely hit town.
I wouldn't even feel bad if jjh927 DID flip today, and flips scum. I don't have a strong read on them either way, I just think they give more of a fake vibe, rather than actual scum. I just think we would have way more activity in game against his lynch if he was scum.

[HitAlt]

Just massvote the worst now.
It's gonna be like ripping off a plaster.
It only hurts for a moment, and then we get a scumflip and it's all good.
I will also personally guarantee there's no scum in the wagon if we do it quickly.

[HitAlt]

So we flip jjh today and tomorrow I'm still scum because I had TMI on his slot?

[HitAlt]

Your playbook was left open on page 2.

[HitAlt]

What is the difference in your mind here between a 'fake' vibe and a scum vibe?

Well, since I'm tired of not giving straightforward answers: it's similar to how scum!lurky can be different from PR!lurky.

[HitAlt]

HitAlt's tunnel on the duckling reminds me of a fake tunnel that vulcan logician had on me on our last game, and by fake I mean "scum hard tunneling someone since early D1 until the end". We either lynch the worst or HitAlt before LyLo, 'cause in that game I lived until MyLo and the other scum option was vulcan and it was not nice to be in that situation, @duckling you know what I mean

I skimmed that game.
I'm not sure if the situation can be compared directly, but I agree that one/both of us need to flip before later this game.
You caught the scum in that game though.

[HitAlt]

Trust me on duck here then.
You won't be disappointed.

[HitAlt]

The worst softed PR. Wasn't gonna bring it up but somebody else already did. Makes sense both as a real PR and as a VT trying to draw the kill.

Except softing cop/vig in this setup, D1 nontheless, makes very little sense.
And since he doesn't CC the JK..?

[HitAlt]

If I were scum this game, I would've pushed myself in a corner already.
Instead of just, you know, lynching the slot I felt had potential for being a PR.
And had jjht not been forced to claim, scum wouldn't have had a reason to NK him either. But apparently the role has already been deemed worthless, so no harm done then?

[HitAlt]

Hit is probably scum.

Meant to quote this too.
Especially with jjht claiming JK, I shouldn't be at the top of anyones scumlist for now.

[HitAlt]

TW is scum with one of NSG/Zoro, and possibly pinochhio.
Their posting has been sub-par recently.
Can we just lynch TW today and get on with it?
Pinocchio tomorrow if I still feel like it.

[HitAlt]

Well, at least TW will be around D2 for me to tunnel now.
We lynch jjht then.
I'm not going to take the glory of hammering as I had him as a town-PR read, so whenever you are done discussing, feel free to end the day.

[HitAlt]

My bike's brakes are broken.
They get worse every time I use them.
And I don't have enough time
to be everywhere
without being on my bike.

So maybe I should slow down,
And try to do
less things.
But my bike's brakes are broken.

Can't find this by googling btw.

[HitAlt]

Hypo-inno on MathDino.

[HitAlt]

HitAlt: Was the worst bussing yesterday on JJH, even though he was the second vote? And was JJH counter-busing him (being the second vote after you)?
Why / why not?

Yes.
Don't know much about jjh, but I know TW wouldn't back down from a bus-wagon after people start to pay attention.
One of the reasons why I stuck to TW all of yesterday was to try and "keep the pressure on him".
While he doesn't crack, I'd still say his hand was forced at least a little.
I'd say his idea for a piece of basic distancing became a hardbuss solely because he didn't want to jump off anymore.

TW is still just likely scum.
And I'm beginning to feel like you are our best hope to actually carry this all the way through Zoro.
Mainly because NSG is now gone, and MathDino might be MaffDino after all too.
Even if I have a hypo-inno on him..(??)

[HitAlt]

Hitalt stonewalled the jjh lynch yesterday

Only half true.
I tried to semitruck a TW lynch yesterday.
Guess it can be interpreted as stonewalling jjh if you want to.

[HitAlt]

He was explicitly PR-reading jjh though before the claim

Same how TW is almost guaranteed scum or PR.
More likely scum, but I just know it.
Thought jjh was the other way around.
No great mystery about it.

[HitAlt]

Hitalt stonewalled the jjh lynch yesterday

How do you distinguish town-but-wrong-about-JJH from scum stonewalling in this case?
Because I can see a world where HitAlt was town-reading JJH due to bias from agreement (they were both on the_worst most of the day).

And yet again, to be more accurate here, I had a PR-read on them.
I didn't explicitly think they were town, but I thought they were just as likely to be PR as they were scum.
I made a judgement call of "town".

[HitAlt]

I apologize for not posting in nearly three days.
I got demotivated by the fact that I let myself become such an easy mislynch, and because I misjudged jjhs actions.
I then reread the whole game and got even less motivated because I'm not sure how to push for the right lynches anymore.
My hypoclaim was also bad. I think MathDino might actually be scum here.
So all in all, not feeling like a Hit.

If there's a bus vote, my gut says Math or Pintu; I actually liked your pintu case because you said out loud what was percolating in my head but I wasn't ready to commit to yet.

This + his "defense" on me previously, says town!Zoro for now from my PoV.
Scum!Zoro has no reason to defend me, even by proxy (I think they were really mainly poking at MathDino for voting me)
Pinocchhio could be in my blind spot similar to how jjh apparently was, but I didn't see much scum in there even on my reread.
If they don't activate D2 it could be different though.

[HitAlt]

dave, HitAlt, ofrhz}

Guess I deserve my place in here, and daves defense was mainly poor AtE.
But ofrhz?
Eh at best.

[HitAlt]

they're never getting NK'd and they don't seem to understand that TW and i are the ideal NKs right now (besides zoronos)

Well I doubt neither of you will ever get killed here.
You two are paired so tightly now, that I'd say the scum in you two has a field day with this game.
You saying "kill TW if he makes it to LyLo" is either a poor attempt at trying to direct scums actions, or just scum posing.

[HitAlt]

Also, not getting NK'd is good for my wincon, so at least I'm doing part of it right..?

[HitAlt]

HitAlt (3): ruru, the worst, Mathdino,

At least one scum in these three should be obvious to everyone.
If not before, then at the very least after I flip town.
Scum have an easy agenda with me here, and thats my own fault tbh, but no way these are all town.
TW and Math would want to jump on the wagon as soon as possible, and ruru enabled that with their vote.

[HitAlt]

HitAlt, you never answered this:

In such a world, do you think third scum is more likely to be on-wagon or off-wagon? Obviously the theoretical third scum couldn't have been on the_worst since that wagon was just you and JJH.

Why would the third scum have been on TW?
They didn't want the buss on him to go through.
In jjh's case there was some "testing the waters".
Had the wagon formed more strongly somewhere else, TW could've jumped off permanently, but once he had been on long enough and I had howled for his lynch for days, he wanted to not risk it.

jjh927

(7):

northsidegal

,

the worst

, ruru, BlackStar, HeWhoSwims, ofrhz,

Mathdino

,

the worst

(2):

HitAlt

,

jjh927

,

Something_Smart

(2):

pinturicchio

,

Zoronos

,
HeWhoSwims (1): davesaz,

Not Voting:

Something_Smart

Greens are conf. town (so from my PoV it includes flips + me obviously).
Red is the one scumflip.
Pinks include all of the scum.
Notice how you still have the lightest color just in case.
I'm thinking all town in the uncolored ones.

TW is still scum.
They have not scumhunted like they usually do.
They went the "faked aggression"-AtE route once I kept sitting on them.
I have accepted that you guys don't agree, so this is the final time I'll say it.
Math is mainly scum by association: look at them + TW last gameday.
Town!MD would agree on scum!TW here, or at least give them a harder time.
Pinocchio and TW are not scum together, because they couldn't resist pulling some over the top theater here.
So Pin+MD or Pin+Zor are whats left as alternatives for him.
I'm fine being todays lynch so that we don't out PRs any worse, but I think scum have this one in the bag.

[HitAlt]

There were only two votes on TW, one of which was yours; there couldn't have been three scum on him because two is less than three.

I do not understand this.
I thought I was being clear, but apparently not.

[HitAlt]

This heavily suggests you believe both scum were on the wagon prior to the claim

And there you have it.
And the switch in votes implicates...?
And I started to lean scum after my reread on..?

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trying to suggest that all 3 scum are in {MD, TW, pintu}?

Oh, most certainly not.
I assumed only two scum left?
And Zoro isn't hardcleared yet. Hence the coloring.
Anything more?

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I think im just triggered by you leaving HWS out of your town pool then greening yourself then suggesting your hypoinno is in the probscum pool

I already admitted my hypo-inno was shit.
Should've reread before claiming it.
And to add to the pile - I completely forgot HWS was an unCC'd PR.
NO WONDER I DIDN't KILL HIM LAST NIGHT. /s

Anything and everything else in your post is just your "opinion".
The quoting depends on whether you flip scum or really disagree.
But of course you dislike me reads no matter your alignment..

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And the fact you ignored my post addressing the fact that your read on me is transparently jank.

Like, the fact remains that you have done nothing to become a townread of mine.
Normally you radiate town with your every post.
Town!You also knows the difference between a bad read and scum, so resolving to say I'm scum for tunneling you in fact confirms you are not town to me.
Town!You would call my reads bad, and from there it would occur to me that "huh, I might actually be wrong".

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...and of course THEN you finally make a post that softs towards the direction I expect of you. Typical.

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My read so far on TW has been accurate, no doubt.
This isn't his usual towngame, period.

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What if I told you, that I've read your every game on site?
Whike your accuracy might waver, your town-tone is consistent. (Barring outside influence)

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Go push someone else than me for a while.
I darw yoy.

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*dare you.
Phinepisting.

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Meta on actions is dumb, e.g. "I never buss as scum".

"Meta" on tone is a different thing altogether.
You are analyzing the way people generate content, as much (or even more) than the content itself.
It often helps differentiate genuine thought process from a faked one.
Scum from town, more than bad player from good.

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I for one am not sure why there has to be scum at all in HitAlt/dave?
If there has to be, it's obviously dave from my PoV, but I wouldn't bet there.

The one who came up with that distribution is the more likely scum, because it's the narrative that likely produces two "automatic" mislynches, with one following the other.
I for one have a lynch-idea that only "automatically" leads to another with a scumflip from the first one.
My scumgame has to be the worst with such poor planning.

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If he's scum he's probably scum with pintu

The main thing I disagree with here, is this.
Either of them might just as well be scum, I've said as much already.
But they are not scum together here.

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Notice how incredibly little that chatterbox duckling has talked about pintu

..and this is complete BS. I said this already too: if they were scum together, it would be so much fun for them to fake interaction in game, that they would def. go overboard with it, more likely than avoid it.

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And for those of you who think I'm a team with TW, read our interactions because that's out of both our ranges to talk about it

This selfmeta, so not valid.
Also disagree with both of your scumranges.

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He's not going to bus himself into 3p, he doesn't think he's THAT good

This I agree with.

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If it makes you feel more comfortable, I can request a copcheck on myself assuming I'm not the cop

Based on some of your posting today, assumed scum!MD knows who the cop is already.
Meaning they die tonight.

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I disagree with the notion that me and pintu should crossvote.
But since he already voted to kill, I'll have no trouble to follow it up.
I think my vote would put him at L-1, so in case he's scum with the intention to selfhammer I'll hold on to it for a while longer.

If our JK agrees with Dino, then maybe claim a JK target for the chance that pin flips red.

Anyone else with something on their mind should speak before it too.

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I feel like even when I put my vote on the_worst the other people that suspected him were zzz on the matter and the wagon got nuked.

Because we have at least three players who are somewhat under MDs thumb.
I also think TW is a likeable duckling, so he has that going for himself, which sucks.
MD controls this game in an admirable way anyhow.
And I think very few of this playerlist have the will or the skill to go against the stream and disagree with MDs mechanics-theorizing. (assuming scum!Dino falsifies them)

I'm starting to think that MD might even be the more likely scum out of the two, but I still think they are a duo.
If the vig shoots town tonight, and scum kills our cop, where are we left tomorrow?
Pintu is lynched today, and unless I'm wrong on them like I was on jjh, we will mislynch.
I will be the designated lynch tomorrow after a townflip on Pintu (as MD thinks TW is scum only with him).
It all spells out MD+TW for me.

The only thing I have a slight hope for is that Pinocchio is scum after all, and I'm just way off this game.
Scum!Pintu would "clear" TW and MD for me, so I'd be free to leave my tunnel where I've been living in a dumpster.

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I could vote Math at this point

If you can rally the people behind that, then go for it.
By all means.

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ruru is town because

pintu

and NSG says so

+

-TW is town because he has almost

no viable scumpartners besides pintu

and maybe ofrhz

+

this leaves Hitalt and

pinturicchio

+

TW is town

Yea...uh-huh..no.
VOTE: MathDino

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Hey, scumteam!
You now have two votes on MathDino already.
You have a chance to get rid of this powertown and the blame will likely fall on me/pintu anyway.
So like..vote him.
We won't be paying attention.

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did you just vote me as a honey trap and then tell the scumteam that it's a trap

I got bored of that plan very quickly.
I also think Pintu is the lynch for today anyway.
I also have to leave for work.
I'm thinking I might either reveal this alt or replace out anyway as to not lose this game for town D3.

Plays were not made.

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We should also say that my reads might be brilliant after all.
In the sense that every single one of them was upside down then?
It's still good for consistency to know that anything I say is in reverse..

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I think that replace out from TW was at a scummy time.
Let's see what their replacements brings to the table..

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PREPARE TO DIE SCUM

..I mean, this a pretty fake LAMIST entry.

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And since the day is likely over before I return online, I'd like to tell you all an important piece of history.

Whenever I used to play chess with my grandpa, I noticed how I always played better the later we started.
There wasn't ever a night that I missed a checkmate.

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PREPARE TO DIE SCUM

..I mean, this a pretty fake LAMIST entry.

you throwin shade bro?

Your slot was always a scumread to me, and you haven't scumhunted much either..

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Ruru shot me because I was useless.
Can't blame em.
I had a gutread of scum on TW the whole game and I never really got over it.
That ruined all my other reads for me and caused me to lose motivation, sorry to everyone for that.

Weölll, at least my read on TW WAS correct....

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but it wasn't the correct move politically to try to lynch him before his partners

I don't think ducks and politics mix well.

It's also refreshing to get compliments from you (even if they started with a "fuck you".
You dislike me on my main.

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Every. Single. One.

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Do I like you on your main Hit?

Can't tell?

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Huge respect for NSG btw.
I think I have played with you before, and also with an alt of yours(??) that was completely different from your main..do you have an alt like that?

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I really locktowned Math after D1, and wanted to see what happens if I keep hitting my head on his fedora.
Only pintu followed, and he was basically the set lynch already so I didn't get a lot of mileage out of that..
Although the one read where I was very wrong about TW was that I thought he and pintu would have "more fun" as scum together.