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Oh noooo. We're in trouble scumbuddies!In post 11, AP wrote:Reads so far:
ManWithNoName -Town
skitter30 -Mafia
Espeonage -Town
Sando -Werewolf
the worst -Town
ceejayvinoya -Mafia
TheYankeeReaper -Town
UglyDuck -Werewolf
pinturicchio -Town
Not_Mafia -Mafia
Draynth -Town
If I got your alignment right; please confirm in the thread.Important:
@wolves let's form an alliance and lynch off AP today.
Any townie is welcome to join our cause, for the sake of a fun, AP-less game.
VOTE: AP
#LynchAPCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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No sir
@town seeing this makes me think that ducky here is town. He doesn't know scums and wolves dont have daytalk. What do you all think?In post 32, the worst wrote:
dude I told you to ignore that in the PT wtfIn post 31, Not_Mafia wrote:
We got ourselves a scumslip guysIn post 30, the worst wrote:not on MS, just once offsite like 2 years ago
I was scum that time, nailed scum on the other team and got NK'd >.<tooCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Why is my vote on AP bothering you? that was rvs. Tho I guess it will become serious soon if AP doesn't stop posting shit.In post 78, skitter30 wrote:This is bothering me in the same way that ceejay's vote on AP was bothering me. Why is your immediate response to esp to call for him to be lynched him? Ceejay did the same thing to AP.
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Also in the last iteration of jungle republic, esp did in fact get hard-cleared by just about everyone for bussing scum!a50 super-hard, so I think that there is some merit to this theoryCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Not gonna give details? You're just casting shade then.In post 106, UglyDuck wrote:In post 105, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I'm eager to know about this too, it's by far the less random thing I've read on the thread, along with the Espeonage vote on the worst and visceversaIn post 103, skitter30 wrote: -> uglyduck responds to what I said about him, and says he thinks I'm behaving differently from last game, and votes me (I still want him to describe how I'm being different)
Yeah I absolutely amnot going to give detailson how I think Skitter is behaving differently at this point. I see no upside to that.
In regard to the point of me asking the question - I just wanted to see who seemed eager to answer.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Um. What if UD and Sando really are ignorant of the fact that mafia can't kill? I glossed over those posts and thought them NAI, because they could go either way.In post 161, Draynth wrote:I only gave the thread a quick skim on the first read through so I'm gonna go back and think about some posts now.
Only ones that really stand out are
Town - Skitter
Scum - UD , Sando (based on 154)Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Are you saying that the worst and Espeonage are scum together?In post 265, TheYankeeReaper wrote:
The non-chalant townie front that you're trying to put up isn't going to make me want to unvote you. Sorry.In post 261, the worst wrote:
your motherIn post 257, TheYankeeReaper wrote:theworst, if you had to pick a scum partner(s) for Espeonage who would it be.
you're a comedian
Espeonagebussingyou that early is a real humdinger, pardner.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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NM has like what? 6 posts? Agree that there's nothing much to sort him with yet.In post 301, AP wrote:
Yes.In post 299, Sando wrote:So both of you (AP+duckling) are confident you can read him but you currently don't have enough info?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Okay I'm gonna assume you're not werewolf then. Possibly could still be scum tho.In post 253, Sando wrote:
Neither of us were ignorant of it, we both assumed it due to the role PMs not mentioning it, and we both missed the actual statement in the mechanics part that is totally clear.In post 251, ceejayvinoya wrote:Um. What if UD and Sando really are ignorant of the fact that mafia can't kill? I glossed over those posts and thought them NAI, because they could go either way.
Not sure about uglyduck because skitter said that he has a history of dumbtelling.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Uhhh what is LAL?In post 360, UglyDuck wrote:also I am going to bed but will post more info in the am - this is where my notes are at for now:
ManWithNoName - null
skitter30 - skum
Espeonage - null
Sando - dependent on flip, but null
the worst - null
ceejayvinoya - no idea
TheYankeeReaper - town
pinturicchio - either town or fantastic skum. leaning on the town side.
Not_Mafia - no idea
AP - no idea
Draynth - town
* I said I would do more tomorrow so don't hold this post against me, just based off of brief re read I did to answer TW question *
If I were to throw two cents in I would say it is surprising (on this forum) no LAL concept has been brought up yet. But again, I will read more tomorrow and post it then.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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That's fine I'll get the hang of this one dayIn post 384, pinturicchio wrote:
CJ I think I've scumread you in every single game I've seen you playing and this might not be the exception if you keep doing posts like thisIn post 383, ceejayvinoya wrote:I like Draynth so far. I think he's town.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Still waiting for this lols.In post 258, AP wrote:
I have my reasoning in a zip file. Let me unzip and get back to you.In post 248, TheYankeeReaper wrote:
Can you tell the rest of the class why you're reading those three town?In post 228, AP wrote:OK, serious read.. duckling is town
So far I've pegged 3 townies with some degree of confidence: Pintu, MWNN & tw
Next..Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Don't count on it lolsIn post 399, Draynth wrote:
Are you going to explain anything this game?In post 398, Not_Mafia wrote:worst scum ceejay scumCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Where I'm stuck at in terms of reads:
{Pintu, Draynth} --town
{Not_Mafia, Sando}
{Skitter, UglyDuck}
{YankeeReaper, The Worst} --null
{AP}
{NoNameMan, Espe} --probs scum
I'm pretty sure there must be one or more scum above my null line but that will sort itself out later.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Uh what I didn't quite catch the meaning of this.
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Oh nvm I got it. Not really piling. That's how N_M usually plays. Do some research and see for yourself.
I don't even get why you think I think that's scummy. You're just looking for an easy reason to pile to me.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Are you placing BoP on NM? Lols. Anyway NM is likely town this time.
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In post 91, ceejayvinoya wrote:No sir
@town seeing this makes me think that ducky here is town. He doesn't know scums and wolves dont have daytalk. What do you all think?In post 32, the worst wrote:
dude I told you to ignore that in the PT wtfIn post 31, Not_Mafia wrote:
We got ourselves a scumslip guysIn post 30, the worst wrote:not on MS, just once offsite like 2 years ago
I was scum that time, nailed scum on the other team and got NK'd >.<tooMy best shot at a town NM. This post of mine really is pingy, and his rxn to it pings town to me.
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By very nuanced you mean town rightIn post 443, the worst wrote: Read on NM is very nuanced and I'm not explaining it yetCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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NAI actually...In post 652, the worst wrote:Fumuki is steategising what wolf would be doing mafia/wolf or town indicative d1? IYOCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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@Fumuki what do you think of Sando not knowing earlier that Mafia doesn't have nightkill?
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Ooooh tell me. Is Fumuki wolf?In post 657, the worst wrote:
ding ding tbhIn post 656, ceejayvinoya wrote:
NAI actually...In post 652, the worst wrote:Fumuki is steategising what wolf would be doing mafia/wolf or town indicative d1? IYO
lynching a woof d1 is ideal
I don't think Sando is towny but I don't think that's a good reason to wolfread himCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Oh you mean he's giving town terrible wolf hunting advice to help them fail? That it?In post 669, Sando wrote:
He's describing sub-optimal wolf play which would equal wolf. But then he seems terribly worried about the NKs coming at Mafia and understands Mafia's play here very well...In post 659, ceejayvinoya wrote:Ooooh tell me. Is Fumuki wolf?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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I don't get this. You're assuming I'm wolf because I asked town to stop talking on optimal wolf strats?In post 766, pinturicchio wrote:Ok I'm ready, what a long read. I'll say this about Sando vs Fumuki:
I was scumreading Sando on 720 and I could see only after the game was over that he was a powerful townplayer with good strats; I was scumreading Sando in this game based on that other game but I couldn't say it 'cause that game wasn't finished, but now that I know that Sando was town there, I think Sando is town here too, so I don't agree with Fumuki about Sando being different. I like that Fumuki pushed Sando tho, since it's not... let's say, the "easy mislynch". What I mean with this is that he could've joined the duckling's wagon or not push anyone at all, but he went for Sando who I consider a strong player. Haven't played with scum!Sando so maybe I'm wrong about that, but I think his townplay was solid on 720.
Conclusion: townreading Sando, less scumreading Fumuki's slot but I still have a gutread on Draynth so...
Now about the whole setup speculation I really don't give a crap since I'm not good at that, I'm good at townreading people and towning myself up so what up. This caught my attention tho:
I know both Fumuki and sando were talking about wolf strats more than the other two factions, but they talked about optimal strategy of the other factions too. This pings me, pings me a lot I say. Let's play a game called "have you met wolf!CJ?"In post 675, ceejayvinoya wrote:Btw let's all stop speculating on wolf strats pls. Lets not give the wolves a free "How to win Jungle Republic" manual.
Hey! Have you met wolf!CJ?
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uh this is Sando pointing out that wolves would prioritise killing seer, and not mafia.In post 780, UglyDuck wrote:
Is this you pointing out there is a seer or calling them a seer?In post 683, Sando wrote:
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERIn post 681, Fumuki wrote:WEREWOLVES, KILL, MAFIA, FIRST.
THERE'S NO ARGUING ABOUT IT. IF THEY KILL TOWN IT'S A MAFIA WIN FOR SURE.
pedit nvm there goes SandoCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Do you mean nk or mlIn post 980, the worst wrote: Both scumfuck factions have an interest in killing me.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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I see...In post 985, the worst wrote:
scum don't play optimally, that's why I said a subconscious behaviourIn post 983, ceejayvinoya wrote:Bread for duck
I think scum would rather push a wagon on opposing scum. *shrugs*
How many scums do you think are on your wagon?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Wtf. A practically naked vote on me...In post 1033, skitter30 wrote:I think fumuki's more likely than not town, especially given draynth, even though his posting is annoying me
Pin's a very strong townread I think.
I don't really get the esp thing still. It feels like a compromise wagon and I still don't think that anyone's sufficiently explained why he's scum. (I'm aware fumuki cased him and I think that he's scumreading playstyle differences and I don't think that his case describes scummy behavior)
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Why am I a compromise lynch to you anyway?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Not OMGUS. My big problem with you here is that you're letting go of your scumreads and decide to agree with everyone and go with the flow, then settle on a compromise of lynching someone else. Why?In post 1044, skitter30 wrote:I want to lynch sando but I've given up on that being a thing.
I think the duck is more likely than not scum but I don't want to lynch him today.
I don't really get the esp wagon + it feels compromise-y + I don't scumread him so like I'm not really into joining it right now. Also I kinda feel like he'd be trying more as scum tbh. I at least know where he stands on things.
I can't remember you doing anything useful this game (ie I can't pick out any of your positions/stances/pushes without re-ISO'ing you which means that I don't know what you're thinking) + pin wants it and I think he has better reads than me right now and he's the person I think is most likely town +I don't really know where else to vote right now.
So I guess I'm compromising because I dislike the other options more.
also you're like OMGUS voting me here?
What's worse is that you knooow that Espe is a compromise wagon so you did not join that, but then decide to hop on to another compromise wagon for reasons that are completely NAI (yeah, me being mostly useless to town is NAI).
Plus look at bolded. You're calling me out for not having positions/stances/pushes when you don't have an idea on where to go either. How is your sorting of everyone going?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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We're gonna start a revolutionIn post 1047, Fumuki wrote:gl gl gl building a wagon on that
You and Ruby are honestly kind of wasting your votesCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Lols pintchorizoIn post 1062, pinturicchio wrote:ceejayvinibobiniCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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Not gonna be around most of today and tomorrow. Got some exams to go through.In post 1084, Ruby Red wrote:@CJV, lmk if you're aroundCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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I think he says I'm scummier than him and I should be the one getting wagoned right now. Not him. Poor duck.In post 1265, skitter30 wrote:
Can you say this again? I don't understand what you meanIn post 1261, UglyDuck wrote:wait... why am i skummy exactly? Is it not more likely ceejay gets two votes to Open the day and then I pick up making ceejay skummy?
Also like 99% tw is skum so gonna go there
VOTE: theworstCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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ceejayvinoya he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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AP has been pinging me all day yesterday because I thought he wasn't being serious about the game, but I've been letting it slide because the worst said this is nai for him. What changed your mind @the worst?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst-
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