Open 733: Grey Flag (Complete)
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand Idea
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Given that no one hammered yet, I think it is safe to assume either a) both scum are on town!Ceejay currently OR Ceejay is scum.In post 35, Brandi wrote:wait i don't understand why someone is at L-1 already? There's not that many people in this game that seems dangerous.-
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We aren't policy lynching anyone. That's a great way for us to lose.In post 46, the worst wrote:ya same tbh but PLing NM in particular interests me.....guess I'll wait for Quick to respond-
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Policy lynches are a great way to get an easy mislynch.In post 53, Quick wrote:Whatever. I am making a stand against NM's play. If you'd rather NM be in the game then me, then you have made the correct decision.
Beyond that, why is it Scummy for me to want to PL NM? When I have detailed my reasons for it? Considering you've never seen me play (feel free to look at a few of my games), what makes you think I don't actually provide content to the game? I actually usually provide a shit ton of content to the game, but not when I feel like someone needs to be PLed.
If you want to vote me for wanting to PL NM, I'm not sure what to tell you other than I'm not going to budge.-
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Okay.In post 60, Not_Mafia wrote:Someone hammer obvscum ceejay, this conversation is boring
VOTE: Ceejay-
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I would like to note that "slips" like that in general tend to be non-alignment-indicative (despite how people tend to read that stuff).In post 82, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:
I pretty sure it wasn't deliberate. I don't know how it's alignment indicative if it is that at all.In post 80, ofrhz wrote:
Do you think this was a real slip@Ircher: there are actually three scum in this game.-
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Why are you paranoid of The Worst and I?In post 87, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:Now I'm getting paranoid about you, Irch, because I'm already paranoid about TW.
Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? 51 in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
(not policy)
That aside, I think Not_Mafia being active is more likely a sign that he is town than that he is scum. I am not in favor of lynching him at the moment.-
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Seriously, how familiar are you with Not_Mafia?In post 136, Quick wrote:I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.-
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That's a loaded question.In post 148, Quick wrote:
Enough.In post 147, Ircher wrote:
Seriously, how familiar are you with Not_Mafia?In post 136, Quick wrote:I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.
Is this a WK, or a defense?-
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Again, that's exactly why I have a problem with your Not_Mafia read. It isn't "Not_Mafia is scum!pinging me", it is "Not_Mafia has a playstyle I dislike."In post 153, Quick wrote:
Should be relatively easy to answer if you are Town.In post 151, Ircher wrote:
That's a loaded question.In post 148, Quick wrote:
Enough.In post 147, Ircher wrote:
Seriously, how familiar are you with Not_Mafia?In post 136, Quick wrote:I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.
Is this a WK, or a defense?
Yes, I think you are incredibly Scummy and yes, I still want to PL NM.
@Players in the game,
Do you know Ircher to have a Scummy meta?-
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I'm stilling think Not_Mafia is town here.
I'm not super sure that Quick is scum here, but to be honest, I don't really have better reads at the moment.
The duckling is still town. Gosrir has pinged in some ways, but I'm leaning town overall for them currently. Brandi seems to have disappeared.-
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His ISO as a whole doesn’t really vibe as someone pushing a specific agenda. He’s active; he’s giving opinions; he’s asking questions; and perhaps most importantly, his opinions and trajectory seem to make sense in a way.-
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Well, posts like this aren't helping your case.In post 249, Saudade wrote:not sure why do I have votes on me and something tells me none of you can make an actual scumcase on me either,
I just guess you are.. afraid?-
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In post 276, the worst wrote:who do you think we should be lynching?-
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How are you so sure that Suadade isn't just gonna venge-kill you?
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I agree it's a bit inconsistent, but at the same time, I don't put much stock in minor wording differences. In a way, a "mistake" is quite similar to an "accident", though I understand they are not quite the same thing.In post 335, Quick wrote:
I thought you said earlier that the hammer was an accident.. Now you are saying it was a "mistake." This is a conflicting narrative. The motive for saying it was a mistake now is because you don't want to be caught with the blame of LOL!Hammering.In post 328, the worst wrote:ehhhh the hammer was a moment of brief hysteria
he was far from a townread and gamestate suggested he'd be lynched anyway. I took the fact no one minded lynching Gosrir as indicative that he was the dedicated d1 mislynch but tbh I'm starting to think his buddies probably would have just said that to distance-
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In post 218, Ircher wrote:His ISO as a whole doesn’t really vibe as someone pushing a specific agenda. He’s active; he’s giving opinions; he’s asking questions; and perhaps most importantly, his opinions and trajectory seem to make sense in a way.-
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Okay, here is my issue with Quick.
For like 80% of day 1, Quick does nearly nothing except ask "Why aren't we policy lynching Not_Mafia". While trying to policy lynch a player is not generally by itself alignment-indicative, the continued focus there (especially at the exclusion of all else) reads to me as scum that are trying to look like they are doing stuff when they really aren't.
The other thing is how Quick is basically calling the worst out for an "inconsistency" when earlier, Quick heavily argued that being inconsistent isn't scummy. So how is what the worst is saying here any worse than Quick's earlier inconsistency in the game, and why should Quick get a pass whereas the worst should not?-
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From what I can tell, he's been posting pretty regularly even if he isn't posting constantly. (He posts at least once or twice each day, which is generally more than enough.) Furthermore, when he does post, he's actively taking stances and elaborating on them. He may be coasting, but he is clearly present in the thread and articulating his thoughts which I think is more likely to come from town.In post 370, ofrhz wrote:Surely that has changed somewhat. I don’t think active can be used to describe gosrir in any sense of the word, and the other stuff is kind of meh considering gosrir just admitted he’s coasting-
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????????????????In post 427, Quick wrote:
So, NM, mind answering why CJ is Scum at this point in the game?In post 69, Not_Mafia wrote:You mean anti-scum
VOTE: CJ-
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???In post 475, the worst wrote:Vote counts seem to be alphabetical so I'll need to actually shit down and do this at some point-
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He said the worst and Loafers (whoever that may be). He also said I'm likely town.In post 474, the worst wrote:@Gosrir who's scum? your case on this page is really bad and we don't have any mislynches here.-
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Spoiler: Votecounts for #1
I think the most noticeable thing here is the fact that no one has flipped green on the Ceejayvinoya wagon. With 2 green flips, we have 4 town and 3 scum left. With 4 people on the Ceejay wagon, there is a pretty high chance at least one of them is scum. (Though, an all-town wagon there on scum is possible is possible as well. Actually, I think I would lean towards Ceejay being scum here and the wagon being all town because like ofrhz is the only one whom I am semi-questioning my townread on, and I trust everyone else on the wagon.
Spoiler: Votecounts for #2
Okay, this is pretty interesting. Within the span of 132 posts (which is admittedly a good number), the entire Suadade wagon decides to switch to voting Gosrir. Again, I think Ceejay is probably the scum here.
Spoiler: Votecounts for #3
Tbqh, the hammer on Suadade here looks sketchy as can be. It makes me reconsider my townread on the worst (but I'm still going with town here). It is also worth noting here that Gosrir has a useless vote at this point. (I mean, voting Not_Mafia? Obviously, that isn't going anywhere.)
Spoiler: Votecounts for #4
I think the most interesting thing here is how the game basically stalls out on Gosrir all of day 2 until Quick suddenly gets practically QLynched right at the end of the day. Again, the duckling's qhammer vote here makes me suspicious, but honestly, Skygazer was the one who suggested quickhammering. The duckling may be scum here, but I think this sudden wagon change here at the end of day 2 points more to Skygazer being scum that wanted to get a free mislynch in (while the chance presented itself.)
Obviously, I'm wrong on someone because I only have 2 scumreads (Skygazer and Ceejay) right now but there are still 3 scum.-
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I would like the same from you.
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I never "hopped on" to the Quick wagon, what are you talking about? (I've was on that wagon almost the entire game in-fact.)In post 510, ceejayvinoya wrote:Lols
It unnerves me how easily Ircher and Sky hopped on both wagons that ended up as a lynch.
Along with the fact that neither one of them voted Gosrir at all...