Open 734: Paris Mafia (13-player variation) - Game Over

[Nero Cain]

I'm town. Whose shit we wreckin?

[Nero Cain]

all smiles with these replacements

just wait till I want to lynch you and Ari have 5 posts on day 3.

[Nero Cain]

And it’s worth posting becuase cats are the only true gods, and dogs are evil

vote: Eragon

policy lynch this plox

[Nero Cain]

To people who have played with Almost50 before, especially Thor,
Are posts like this, particularly the tone of them pretty standard coming from him? Or is this more confrontational than you'd expect?

@Fink: Mimes aim to get LYNCHED. If they could accomplish that on D1 they don't need to worry about the Vig. "Act scummy --> Get lynched" is what a noob Mime would think. I do not expect a NOOB to go about the consequences beyond that point. Planning for multiple moves hardly makes someone a NOOB.

Mafia do NOT want to get lynched. A noob Mafioso would NOT try to act scummy in the first place. If they do (in order to avoid being lynched) then they are NOT a noob either. NOOB NOOB NOOB. A Newbie who has not yet developed the sense to plan ahead for multiple steps and will only go for the next move is what I'm talking about.

Seems p standard but I don't think there's any huge difference in his scum and town game.

[Nero Cain]

why do you oppose the Mime wincon exactly?

Hmmm... this actually made me reread the role PMs on the wiki, and it does seem that the game does

not

end upon the Mines achieving their wincon. Better safe that sorry though, so..

@MOD: Does the game end or not if both Mimes get

lynched

?

Per the setup review thread, only one faction can win. Once a win condition is met, all other factions have lost and the game is over.

Why does this matter to you, why ask?

Believe me.. I've seen worse things happen on and off his site. Someone may not see your entire post, but only see that line quoted in another post. Some scum may even purposefully "misquote" you on D2 or D3 and exclaim why you were still alive after you claimed, this calling for your lynch. Just do not assume anything and try to refine your jokes is all I'm saying. Plus, my case on you did get the game going anyway, so that's something even if you still think it was fabricated BS.

So you no longer think he's a mime?

Sometimes I feel myself

On p6 I think a50 is being LAMIST and I disn't really like his OMGUS vote on ICV.

Well, you said "scum" this time and ,ost players (including yourself in #167) use that to describe MAFIA and not 3P (Mimes are basically Jesters as you yourself had pointed out), so I had to ask.

scum is a catch-all term :/ I'm p sure you knew that.

[Nero Cain]

I agree that Sesq is p scummy but I'm also a little worried that she's a mine. Like the whole "it takes a wagon on me to get me going" just seemed so telegraphed. Would a mine say that to get wagoned or would mafia say that to appear like a mime?

[Nero Cain]

but also

Sesq - 5 - RockyHorror, lane0168, innocentvillager,

GuiltyLion, FA_Q2

both these votes were kinda go with the flowy so I was kinda

[Nero Cain]

I do not like NC's catchup here. He touches on a few things but it is all riding the fence. My and GL votes are 'go with the flow' but no actual stance. Sesq is scummy but more likely a mime - again, a reason to not place a vote.

What else should I be touching here? Hopefully, not much since I'm a bit of a germaphobe. And you know you could have just asked me my opinions on these super important events that I didn't touch on.

Firstly, there's little sense in putting someone to L-1 with a suspended deadline when I haven't had

much

any interaction with anyone. Even if Sesq is some variation of scum there are still 3 out there. Let me game solve or at least attempt to.

Like, Gun 2 my head: I think you and GL are scum but for me, it's still early and my read might change. Also, myself and maybe most town are a bit wishy-washy in nature. Barring being an informed minority or inno/guilty checks no one is going to know anyones alignment till flip. Sure, decesions will get made, some right and more wrong and I think some town even have the mindset of "I don't care who gets lynched as long as its not me!"

[Nero Cain]

Why does this matter to you, why ask?

Because it tell me if we can win with Mime or not. If we can, then I won't mind lynching them both (in fact it would be much better than lynching Town). As it turns out; lynching Mime works directly against the Town (and Mafia) win cons.

isn't that just...idk...common sense?

So you no longer think he's a mime?

No, I don't think Eragon is Mime anymore.

Why not?

[Nero Cain]

20 Is the scummist post I'ver ever read. In what world are cats better then dogs?

but real talk.

NO. Where should I hang my vote?

[Nero Cain]

I PROMISE I will say something that I think is useful tomorrow. Or at least say smelling that I hope will be useful.

Pedit. Hi Ari. Long time no see

Does it really take you that long t think of something?

[Nero Cain]

OH NOES, I'M BEING GOADED INTO VOTING SESQ!.

[Nero Cain]

I rather not lynch a mine today but if it comes down to me vs. her then I

[Nero Cain]

vote: FA_Q2

[Nero Cain]

I most certainly am noticing that. But what's not amazing to me, is people not jumping from a leading wagon to a non wagon for essentially the same case.

Yeah, but that they chose Sesq over you is a thing.

Is is strange that ppl want to lynch scum over Lane? Also, you seem content sitting on a not scum wagon so your whine that we aren't lynching Lane seems odd.

[Nero Cain]

[Nero Cain]

Do you have any other suspect, just in case you are wrong about either of us?

your sole scumread is town so I think you should care more about your reads than mine.

[Nero Cain]

Do you have any suggestions?

umvote me or I'll join Jingle.

[Nero Cain]

you still haven't given me an alternative target

Why do you need me to feed you information? Since when do you need hand holding in scumhunting?

so I am on you because I -at least- know you're not a Mime (bc DT replaced out while being wagoned).

Doesn't make me mafia either.

[Nero Cain]

vote:A50

[Nero Cain]

Why do you need me to feed you information?

Because if you are town then we're a team.

Well, you certainly aren't playing like my team member.

Since when do you need hand holding in scumhunting?

Every now and then I do need advice and especially so when we have a game like this where almost everybody is holding their cards too close to their chests.

Why would you want advice from someone you want lynched?

Doesn't make me mafia either.

Not necessarily, no. But it if it's between you and Sesq then I'd rather lynch you, because lynching Mime!Sesq is giving her 50% of her win con on a silver platter, while lynching you (assuming you are a townie) doesn't hurt us that much.

Unless you prefer to live and lose over getting lynched and win.

Not lynching town is always the best course. If you don't think I'm mafia then you should go find them. This lynching between me and Sesq is very very lazy and not town motivated.

Also the "if you live we'll lose and if we lynch you we'll win." is very much

A

t

E

y fearmongering bullshit.

[Nero Cain]

@MOD: Does the game end or not if both Mimes get lynched?

this is also mafia that's asking if their wincon can still be achieved if the mimes is first.

145 feels fake as fuck.

It's hilariously bad that he's attempting to subscribe scum motivation to DT's replace out. I mean, I know he's wrong and that DT was town thus he was being sincere. I've never had oral surgery, I've had a tooth pulled and even that hurts but my dad has had oral surgery he says that hurts like a son of a bitch. And he said he was starting school so like isn't that the OR? He's up Thor's ass and he promised to sheep him and his vote being the third vote on the wagon After Thor is just a continuation of that. He doesn't seem to particularly think that my slot is mafia and seems more than content to lets Sesq and I be the main/only wagons today.

[Nero Cain]

what I did say was that Lane perfectly matches a large number of cases people are pushing, yet I'm the only one looking at him and *that* is suspect (which it is).

Ah, fair enuff. Whats the case on Lane?

Are you claiming I should have a town read on your slot for some reason? Why?

I'm claiming you are wrong. I really don't care how you read me; just know that I'm town.

[Nero Cain]

then im fine with both wagons right now

I vastly perfer A50 over Sesq.

[Nero Cain]

well honestly both mime reads/scum reads for me are gone, so im actually happy with those Night kills.

y say this when you were scum reading GL?

Eragon, why have Thor as a strong townread when he pushed so hard on lane?

I don't feel like this is all that scummy?

[Nero Cain]

vote:FA-Q2

[Nero Cain]

I think there's a decent chance that mafia/last mine are on the wagon. I don't understand why you think this is not a good theory.

lane0168 - 7 - Fink, Jingle, Thor665, Eragon,

Almost50

, FA_Q2,

lane0168

[Nero Cain]

also FA_Q2 still has yet to share a singular townread, hmm

Because I don't really have any.

My only real townread yesterday was A50.

Why were you town reading him?

[Nero Cain]

Seemed more like he was trying to gambit than anything.

[Nero Cain]

So people who need to get shot sooner rather than later:
Nero, Aristo, Thor, Jingle, IV, Fink, FA_Q2, Eragon
...
It does seem likely that there is scum in this list

Is this post meant to be some kind of joke? This is most of the player list. Why are you on it? Why are Rocky and GL the only ones not on it?

[Nero Cain]

[Nero Cain]

yeah, who was casting this ridiculously wide net?

[Nero Cain]

I'm not sure why me missing/not understanding part of the game is causing such a big upset.

[Nero Cain]

If he didn't waste time by attacking Fink over it I could see your point.

asking questions=//=attack.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, I'd volunteer as tribute but that'd be antitown

Would it?

[Nero Cain]

just

vote: no

[Nero Cain]

Mountainous, on the other hand is crazy boring and ALL about dayplay. Fun setups are all about balance between the two.

I

slightly

disagree. Its been a thing forever and its even more common now days but there are lots of town players that are "bored" unless they have a PR. Its really really dumb though.

[Nero Cain]

y is eragon townie?

[Nero Cain]

y is eragon townie?

y not.

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