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hey everyone!
Thanks for the welcome, skitter.
I am absolutely not reading 100+ pages.
Things to do:
-figure out why tw voted ruru
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-prioritize sorting alonzo as he's the only person I know in the 7 other peopleI’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Also, can I get a summary of what's happened so far? That would be great.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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I combed through a few ISOs and recalled thinking alonzo seems town, but that's all I got so far. So I'm just going to go on the posts starting from where I replaced in.
Yes the summary would be great. I don't follow why you tunneled tw for 100 pgs and and think he's town, while he thinks you're scum.In post 2536, ruru wrote:also hi performer I've tunneled your slot for like 100 pages but now I think you're town.
I'll summarize in a bit if nobody else wants to
I guess I need to re-re-evaluate enigma too
why no lynch ? My predecessor wanted mass claim for d4 ?In post 2541, BuJaber wrote:Ruru - Repout NAI. Can't say more
As long as we agree to massclaim + lynch.
Though I'm still in favor of no lynch + no massclaim just for tonightruru and tw? So...ruru tunneled tw for 100 pgs, tw voted ruru....and you're saying they're scum? Why?
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Enigma I'll get your posts tomorrow or Monday at latest. Will be busy the rest of today. Thanks for the summary btw.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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pgs 102-103 make me tr enigma. The summary and reads provided, also help my read. But why was tw tunneling you?
Why ruru, do you sr enigma? Thanks for also providing a summary.
And you mentioned skiitter inno on you? As in...she claimed investigative, checked you, and said you were clear? Need to be sure what you're saying - if so, then you should be town.
town block so far: enigma.
reevaluating alonzo since he didn't go into why he has me & ruru as scum.
regarding skitter's question about my meta with alonzo - I played 2 games where he was town. He did alright. One of those newbie games I was a scum IC, they were lucky with a quick hammer type of player in their town ranks, and my partner and his replace in didn't do too well....anyway, I'm probably not that reliable in reading alonzo. His playstyle isn't exactly easy to read, and I would need to see more from him than many of his bare posts. I get that he has a family and probably phone posts a lot, but bare posting constantly is scummy.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Huh? Tw hinted that he was bujaber's partner??In post 2582, Irrelephant11 wrote:@skitter I actually agree about partner-reading, so my bad
It just so happens that potential-traitor-Tw really hinted that he was Buj’s partner, and he also followed BuJ’s in-thread advice
This is simply suspect as I have a town role from the moderator.
yes I am of this thought as well, in this situation.In post 2591, BuJaber wrote:I'd much rather have PRs living one more night so I'm strongly favoring no massclaim no lynch
adding bujaber to town block.
sadly, the claiming has started already.
I really don't think no lynch is a good way to go. Have yet to see a good reason so I can't agree with no lynch.
buj's previous post & this post of ruru's , makes me more suspicious of ruru.In post 2592, ruru wrote:just claim please.
I vote bujaber > irrel > enigma > alonzo > korina > skitter
I still think it's fishy that ruru tunneled tw for 100 pgs and and thinks tw is town, while tw thought ruru wasn't.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Buj - if we have majority do a no lynch, what if scum target a pr, then we'll be back to square 1. I like that he suggested I read at least the earlier part of d3, which I should get to...ugh...this is partly why I wanted to replace in with a hydra because I am somewhat time crunched, and the hydra would help a more in this situation.
continued fos: Alonzo for naked claiming ruru & I as scum team.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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I don't get the feeling that korina is scum rn.
He had alonzo, GE, and tw as scum at one point in his ISO.
I want to see his updated reads instead of the recent "I'll catch up" posts.
irrelephant so just to be clear, you think me & buj are partners?
@skitter Alonzo is suspicious, yes. Why would you ask if there is a traitor? It's shown in the setup on pg 1 , iirc.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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they only recruit a traitor if they choose something with the mod. They can recruit them to share factional nk iirc.
There is absolutely a traitor if I am understanding this setup correctly.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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I am liking a50's reads as he was right about MWNM/NM/ceejay, as well as the read on my predecessor.In post 264, Almost50 wrote:
What's to explain, my friend? I said I TR everyone with the exception of Antihero/ManWithNoName/FrankJaeger/Gamma Emerald. Given we have 3 scums over all it follows each of my suspects is 75% likely to flip scum. 3 out of these 4 are the scum team IMHO.In post 260, Vex Vience wrote:explain how u got there plz
He put up that antihero/bujab & frank/irrelephant could be the scum team. If that's true though - then irrelephant is voting bujaber in a bussing situation, rn. Interesting.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Thanks for elaborating on ruru. I am understanding better, of why tw voted ruru . This also changes me read on alonzo.In post 2631, Alonzo wrote:In post 1763, ruru wrote:okay, so
the worst is not happening because skitter is waffling
let's try this
anyone not naked voting alonzo with me can be scum with alonzo.
ruru d2In post 1773, ruru wrote:Just vote alonzoI’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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ok what is all this usage of hypo mean...does it stand for hypothetical?
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I really want to see why you dislike me & skitter, irrelephant. If it's regarding my predec, nothing i can do about that though.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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in terms of "disliking my catchup," if it's just about me asking questions about things i don't get, it's far better than being secretly confused. So, your call out of that was bizarre.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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ftr, I don't like bujaber, ruru, and am getting increasingly wary of korina .
you said you had me tr, ruru & engima sr. why?
what are your OTHER reads too, and why?I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Ok some things:
alonzo why did you choose a50 & enigma to block? especially a50 of all people?
skitter what do you mean blocking a50 matches with d2 big scumread?
I see what irrel & skitter meant now. Vex's 600s look really good . Combined with his d3 perpetual catchup and other posts though, I would have to null him.
where has ruru vanished to? I feel like she hasn't appeared in awhile.
irrel I can go bujaber or ruru as well but I want to see what skitter & ruru say as they're the last ones. I need to reread my ISO for what I said about enigma.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Ok some things:
alonzo why did you choose a50 & enigma to block? especially a50 of all people?
skitter what do you mean blocking a50 matches with d2 big scumread?
I see what irrel & skitter meant now. Vex's 600s look really good . Combined with his d3 perpetual catchup and other posts though, I would have to null him.
irrel I can go bujaber or ruru , but I also want to see what skitter & ruru say as they're the last ones. I need to reread my ISO for what I said about enigma.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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alonzo can you recall of those left alive other than my slot, who pushed you for what reasons?
I saw in your ISO that it seemed like people voted you at various points.
Reason for asking is for wagon analysis and poe.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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VOTE: enigma
So I was trying to find in my ISO and enigma's after I replaced in, why tw tunneled him after I questioned him on that. No answer from him.
Now that we have alonzo's claim, nm's flip, another review of enigma's ISO - quite suspicious.
He had irrel/buj/alonzo as his sr STILL, on d3 and suddenly had me tr somehow.
Though in his ISO posts 2079 and 2212, he was against tw.
His 1785, 1721, 1630, 1497, 1249 had me, alonzo - claimed town rb, eji, buj, GE (green flip) as his sr but he didn’t have nm slot as sr.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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further explanation - basically he voted a tpr - alonzo, my slot (green), GE (flipped green), didn't have nm (red flip) as scumread from what I skimmed through. That's condemning .
This makes me really wonder about his ISO pattern - if this means irrel/eji & buj/antihero are actually town then, because right now I have buj as an sr. But I'm not super fond of associative hunting as Alonzo knows from that 1 newbie game...so it should be shelved for another day I guess.
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I have skitter & ruru as opposite reads for me . going to re-ISO skitter.In post 2680, Alonzo wrote:ruru got it into her head to randomly vote me, but skitters reasons were non existant.
If I had to bet I'd say Scum!Skitter has been hiding in the wake of Town!rurus chaotic style. Skitter fence sits on alot of points here, here Iso is riddled with 'this was kinda meh' That was kinda meh' posts that I'm not sure I see from townSkitter in such frequencyI’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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skitter's ISO is the kind of ISO that I sort of use when I'm scum - one that tries to not draw too much attention or conflict.
really don't like her 1568 about how she thought the irrel slot was partnering nm, despite irrel slot voting nm.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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If I understand correctly - Buj why do you have sr on irrelephant, and why do you tr skitter - she has you & irrelephant as scum.
irrelephant you have skitter as tr and she has you & buj as scum though. Interesting.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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I don't understand how you went from nothing in d2 made you change your stances on enigma & GE...to saying ruru & I are the scum team.In post 2679, Alonzo wrote:A50 was policy I explained at the start of day 2.
When I did my first readthrough I was thinking that there was probably a scum in enigma/Gamma, and nothing I saw d2 made me change that stance.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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But If your ISO is not what your scum meta is like, then I don't see why ruru lined up Korina>skitter>ruru in some sort of meta comparison of people who weren't playing to their meta.In post 2686, Alonzo wrote:thats quite a narrow view of the situation. I was trying to give TW some space as I do not Town!read TW easily.
Around page 95 I said I was going to Re read, by the time i got to the RR there was a huge show and TW suddenly subbed out and the game was another 10 pages to read.
rurur really seemed to believe her SR of TW then went cold on it. The whole thing seemed unnecessary.
Not knowing TW's alts I was surprised in the break of character that followed, he broke the 4th dimension if you will and still not sure how to read it.
Why would you object an enigma wagon??
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@alonzo: interesting. I've seen tw's town meta consistently show he gets irate when things don't go his way, but that's about as "4th dimension" as I can see regarding tw. As for alts, I'm not aware of what alts he has...though I don't how that would matter.
I still think it's very scummy that ruru claimed to have been in sorting tw for 90+ pgs and when I replaced in , she suddenly put me as tr. Despite that, a re-ISO of her & checking ISOs of others after some time has gone by this phase - ruru is hardly the scummiest .
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I'm starting to wonder if the remaining scum are a certain pair in here.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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mfw I heard this.....In post 2692, ruru wrote:I didn't use my ability either night
I don't value creature's life over my own
so tonight what will you do then??I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Interestingly, why would she have been on creature? I didn't see he claimed anything on a quick ISO skim.In post 2691, Korina wrote:
And yet you weren't on Creature last night...?In post 2690, ruru wrote:I'm bodyguard lol
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Isn't there 1 more person who didn't claim?
I seriously don't like that answer from ruru, looks very suspicious.
Bg role is created to protect others, especially prs.
I think this is literally the first time I've ever seen this kind of reasoning and really , really don't like it. I mean, who says they don't want to protect Alonzo at this point with the mass claiming going around? That's the only answer they should give at this point .
At the same time - if she fake claimed, that is next to suicide for scum to do. On top of that, this is basically suicide from what ruru is saying if she is scum...so I'm inclined to think she can't be scum saying such things.
Also why did Creature of all people, claim his IC role on d1 in post 5?? What the!?
This G A I M is messed up.
Anyway, trying to think if it makes sense with 12 - goon, traitor, another scum role, IC, town rb, town bg. Considering the setup features, it actually sounds plausible .I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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I'm finding it very challenging to trust your thought processes , ruru, after saying you didn't bg on 2 nights & that you'll die over another pr. Why would you suspect there would be an investigative to protect? What if there wasn't??
So with that said, I want to hear why you're voting bujaber.
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I would like everyone to get on the enigma wagon please. I don't see my vote moving off him this phase.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Not sure what to make of bujaber suddenly putting irrel & I in his sr.
The more I read from irrel, the townier he feels . like his posts about what if alonzo makes it to lylo, then that would be absolutely alarming but I don't see how that can happen . If he's fake claiming , we lynch him, if he's not, he will be targeted.
I don't think ruru should protect anyone then in that case because if both are truth telling, 1 of them dies and that helps us get less paranoid, it clears up some chaos for improved scumhunting.
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Also just thought of something - if alonzo is telling the truth, that means enigma is cleared. 1 scum died already, the only other 1 who can do an nk already did one on n2....so alonzo blocking enigma = enig town.
I think it also makes sense if alonzo was fake claiming & was actually traitor, then his rb on enigma on n2 would've made sense as scum fake claim? So in that case, enigma is scum and alonzo = traitor? Because looking at enigma's ISO alone - you can say I'm insane but I'm an old school/traditional town player - his ISO is still very suspicious .
Alonzo flew from not changing his stance on enigma being scum, to tw/ruru, to bujaber.
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Here's a thought - we leash alonzo onto who he & us agree to be blocked. That should help us narrow things down.
If town and failed = he dies since scum kills him
If town and succeeded = that's great, likely confirmed scum target
If he succeeded but the block target flipped green after lynch = lynch alonzo next day with prejudice since that means he lied
In my case on enigma , he included irrel, me, buj, and alonzo in his ISO of people to lynch/sr but didn't include nm. Alonzo NOT looking at enigma this d3 phase with no reasoning afaik, is alarming by itself.
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On a related note, I have a bad feeling about buj , as in I don't think he's scum here.
Him voting enigma after I posted my case on enigma, actually makes sense from a town perspective because enigma pushed for buj AND my death, and I absolutely am town here. So buj's vote on enig makes sense as a town process.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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trying to think of all realities here.In post 2763, Irrelephant11 wrote:also I'm just now realizing you're trying to call enigma locktown and your scummiest read in the same post??
I'm just actually really confused, tell me more
Regarding ruru & alonzo, basically my idea is ruru doesn't bg anybody and alonzo works with us to do an agreed roleblock on a coordinated target. I want to hear thoughts from ruru, alonzo, everyone else about this. I think this is the safest route because I myself am suspicious of 1 or both of them end up somehow getting to lylo.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Going by what the setup says, there's IS a traitor. And I was saying alonzo could be traitor and enigma could be the groupscum with nm, who flipped red. Anyway, that's just my hypothetical .In post 2765, skitter30 wrote:performer's either town or groupscum without a traitor imo because i feel like he doesn't really understand the whole 'recruit traitor' notion
At the same time I don't see what you mean by "recruit traitor." I'm under the impression that if scum chose that, they can recruit the traitor?
Well in that case couldn't alonzo still have possibly fake claimed with enigma no matter who is who?
Despite anything else, enigma's ISO alone is the scummiest of anybody's. Combined with everything else that's happened along with poe, my vote is still staying on enigma.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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to expand on this, I don't know if anybody has much experience with games where scum fake claim, but it absolutely is a reality in some games I've played in or observed. So, that is also why I am suggesting this idea.In post 2766, Performer wrote:
trying to think of all realities here.In post 2763, Irrelephant11 wrote:also I'm just now realizing you're trying to call enigma locktown and your scummiest read in the same post??
I'm just actually really confused, tell me more
Regarding ruru & alonzo, basically my idea is ruru doesn't bg anybody and alonzo works with us to do an agreed roleblock on a coordinated target. I want to hear thoughts from ruru, alonzo, everyone else about this. I think this is the safest route because I myself am suspicious of 1 or both of them end up somehow getting to lylo.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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notice the part I boldedIn post 2679, Alonzo wrote:A50 was policy I explained at the start of day 2.
When I did my first readthrough I was thinking that there was probablya scum in enigma/Gamma, and nothing I saw d2 made me change that stance.
later referred to enigma again in this post - enigma just posted above himIn post 2602, Alonzo wrote:^^ does scum post like this?
didn't expand on this until later when I had to ask
flew from enigma to rr & I to bujaber.
That's why something wasn't sitting right with me about alonzo.
This is more for my notes going forward.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Yes in that post 2, scum can choose. I forgot that they could stay as 2 goon 1 traitor or become 3 goons. I went with what I remembered as the parts stating the setup had 2 mafia and a traitor.In post 2774, skitter30 wrote:
if this last option happens there's effectively 3 mafia goons (with the possibility of any of the three getting a pr if they choose them) and no traitor in effect once the game startsIn post 2, ofrhz wrote:Role Modifications
During pre-game, mafia have 72 hours to select which (if any) of the modifications they want to their team. A maximum of three modifications may be selected:
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- JOAT (1 shot Strongman, 1 shot Ninja)
- Daytalk (passive ability)
- Recruit Traitor as Mafia Goon
scum know whether or not that's a thing but town doesn't
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@irrelephant his changing in reads and being noncommital to enigma, as well as claiming he blocked him on n2 , make sense to me if alonzo is fake claiming as scum. When I played with him in 2 games as town, he wasn't as noncommital.
I need to think over the ruru having to bg alonzo idea:
if town bg on scum rb, bg dies
if scum bg on town rb, rb dies
if both town, rb dies
if both scum, well damn.
actually you're right there. Never mind me idea, I agree with ruru on alonzo and alonzo designating his target.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Waiiiit a minute. alonzo claims to have blocked enigma n2, enigma on d3 said irrel/alonzo/buj were his sr. This was BEFORE alonzo's claim.
So , I am thinking that if enigma flips red & alonzo flips green, this means there is 3 group scum and no traitor. Because an nk still occurred on n2 despite alonzo blocking enigma.
alonzo claimed rb on enigma n2>kill still happened>if enigma flips red, 1 other scum left because of kill on n2
tr: irrel, skit, ruru based on interactions
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Ok .
UNVOTE:
So alonzo did rb on enigma on n2....but there were still ways it could've failed, seeing as Creat died.
What if scum had JOAT - so they could 1-shot strongman, and used that on n2 against creat? The post 2 details in the game, say it can't be blocked.
Despite that, I am starting to see that bujaber is probably the better vote now.
Still not liking the magical addition of me into his sr list with irrelephant and me as bujaber's sr. No explanation at all after scrolling through his more recent posts. Intent to vote bujaber, but I want to hear from alonz & enigma first.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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This requires a great deal of trust in alonzo - I see what you mean though. Thanks for the explanation - I am in agreement with this move instead, for alonzo about not revealing his rb target.In post 2785, ruru wrote:I don't think alonzo should telegraph his target today because it's a disaster if bujaber is town and scum recruited traitor, not to mention it gives scum more information on who to shoot
alonzo is living tomorrow to claim tonight's target unless he roleblocks me so there's no benefit in telegraphing
(and if I'm scum somehow thinking solo pushing for massclaim a day early and fakeclaiming bg is a good idea, then I'm shooting someone other than alonzo tonight 100% of the time anyway)
Also, I was wondering if it was skitter & enigma in my 2688 - but that is no longer valid. I now am thinking it's buj & one other person whose ISO revealed catching up, doing iioa posts today, not voting buj but voting you after your reveal, and even wanting alonz/me/GE (green flip) to die.
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can you go into the timeline of your scumreads and actions? What exactly happened?
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Whoa whoa whoa let me stop you right there ruru, and provide a disclaimer - this is from 2 years ago so that wiki is somewhat old so therefore not as reliable. tictac did the same in a completed game by referring to the wiki . And him and I were town in that game.In post 2792, ruru wrote:
the reason I ask is that the bolded are pinging me somewhat:Ways to discern whether or not Performer is scum:
-He'll mess around, probably in a subtle way
-You get the feeling that he's purposefully being mysterious
-He'll fake confusion
-He'll poke at random posts
-He's brief
-He lurks
- you do sound purposefully mysterious with some of your scumreads
- I don't specifically think your confusion about the setup is fake, but it's hard for me to evaluate. part of why I don't want the day to end yet is that I'd like to see what your posting is likeafteryou've figured out all the setup stuff or whatever
so I'm wondering whether confidential scumreads are part of your mysterious-town-range
I haven't come across a need to update the wiki so I left it as is when I took a break from FM. Interestingly it's looking like I may have to update it as people are using it to read me.
As for why I withheld my fos on 2 folks earlier, that was to see if anything substantial would come out of it, anything that could keep generating discussion that could help us win.
As for confusion, yes I am like everyone else in that I get confused about things too. But I've been seriously trying to figure things out like everyone else.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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@alonzo ok thank you for the wall post.
If you (or anyone else) want to , you guys can see exactly how my scum play is in these games:
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Not close to placing a vote yet - I want to see what Enigma says, and what Korina's input is OTHER than setup and role speculations or catching up or being too busy.
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In post 2811, Korina wrote:Basically:
Alonzo isn't dying tonight. If he does, we lynch Ruru.
Alonzo shouldn't say who he's rbing
I think Preformer is confused town.
I think Buj is just scum.
Can you expand on this?In post 2812, Korina wrote:I'm pretty sure that it's {Buj, Enigma}.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Also @ everyone and mod: I'll be traveling this weekend so v/la over the weekendI’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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If we look at d1 vc, the only person still alive who didn't vote nm, is bujaber.In post 1559, ofrhz wrote:
Looking at who's on the wagon, it doesn't make sense for enigma to be doing L-1 to a partner on d1....while eji is now irrel. I can't see it making sense for irrel to hammer a partner on d1 either unless really necessary.
So maybe it's 1 or both of skitter/Korina in the middle of the wagon??
Maybe scum wanted to cut their losses so they distanced via bussing - but I don't see how both partners would've been on nm to bus him on d1.
For d2 end of day vc, enig was getting enough heat for irrel & GE to voted him - not only that, but alonzo felt he was suspect enough to rb him. It's not outlandish to think that enigma perhaps realized that he was being suspected a lot and (if they have a 3rd goon) wanted his other living partner to do the nk on n2, on creature. This way alonzo would get a false clear on enigma.In post 2248, ofrhz wrote:
What else I noticed was buj, skitter, korina - all claimed vts and all voted GE for d2 lynch, quite safely in middle of the wagon. What's worrisome is that GE a veteran player, thought someone else was scummier than any of the 6 on his wagon... wth?I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Isn't enigma overdue for prodding?
Also, is anyone here an alt or has alts? Reason for asking is meta comparisons.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Trying to vca some things and reread a few ISOs.In post 2825, Korina wrote:Where are you getting with that?I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Still waiting on enigma replies, he's lurked hard today. Mod can we get deadline extension or deadline pause until a replacement?I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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off topic:
Baby, it’s a brighter dayIn post 2851, ruru wrote:
Are you just gonna stare at the wall? What’s wrong
Today is Friday, come meet me
Wherever we go, I’ll make you feel better, let’s go together
In our lives
There will be much harder things than this
This might be the beginning
So today, let’s go far away
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Enigma upon your return - I want to see reads list and your thoughts on what's transpired.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Alonzo I did not yet, but I want to see what enigma days before going into it.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Also for all this hypo inno talk, nobody should be heading into d3 not sorting/reevaluating even their trs. That raises all sorts of issues and is suspicious.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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This is outrageous. Nothing still from enigma in 24 hrs. That's a classic scum stall tactic if you ask me. Going to post my case , not waiting anymore. Enig and skit can go.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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