Open 752: Donner Party [Game Over]

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All the cool names to vote for are reserved.

I suppose I will just doubt tommy.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

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Since this is a cannibalistic game
maybe voting for yourself will undo the damage of the penguin.

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I saw some Penguin-esque qualities from Arrendelle's queen
in the new trailer.

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Now why would that be, Persi?

Because in my experience you're a whirlwind of confusion, and confusion benefits scum.

Can said confusion also
confuse scum?

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Ahh, the sweet innocence
of the noob card.

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Ahh, the sweet innocence
of the noob card.

I'm new too can I use the card?

The more the merrier.

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Ahh, the sweet innocence
of the noob card.

I have a question, do you think I’m scum

The noob card
alone
doesn't make you town.

[Chateau Lobby]

Ahh, the sweet innocence
of the noob card.

I have a question, do you think I’m scum

The noob card
alone
doesn't make you town.

That’s not what I asked, but fine. Anyways, what I wanted to point out is that you are misrepresenting me right now. That was not a noob card play. I was asked by someone if I am new to this, and I said yes. Then I said that even though I’m new to this forum thing, I have played mafia games before and I have an idea of how it should be played and then I proceeded to sustain my read on tex. That’s not a “noob card” play for the simple reason that I didn’t use it as a mean to justify an action. I just answered a question. For you to point that out when it wasn’t a noob card play just makes me believe it was a scummy attempt to put me under the spot for something that I haven’t done. You avoiding my question is another lead that you just look to keep your posting up so that people won’t suspect you, especially because your iso lacks content at the moment.

I didn't avoid
your question.

But I think I might
have hit on something.

I have 7 posts.
What type of content do you
expect?

Maybe you can solve the
game so early
but I can't.

Sorry.

[Chateau Lobby]

Why are you acting like this? I get pushed by 3 people and when I defend myself, you act like the victim. That was an unjustified remark that isn’t even correct, shouldn’t I be the mad dude here? No hard feelings, it’s just a game lol

I'm acting like
A victim?
I'm mad?

How did you come
to that
Conclusion?

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No, I'm just aware of how he plays.

Then you should be aware that he's a big boy and doesn't need you to stick up for him. Yet, you did.

So...
What's the big
deal here?

Percy, if you are
jealous
we can be friends
too.

[Chateau Lobby]

So...
What's the big
deal here?

Could be an attempt at buddying, as I clearly noted.

What do you recommend
we do about it?

[Chateau Lobby]

Oh, I don't know, maybe...push it and see what happens.

Stop playing stupid. I'm not responding if you keep it up.

Good idea...

Bittersweet, why the
buddying attempt on me?

VOTE: Bittersweet

[Chateau Lobby]

Even if PPs
Read list was serious
how could it be based
On anything except
Gut reads
This early in the
Game.

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How did I
Misrepresent anyone?

And what mistake did
I hop on?

And what information
could you possibly have?

I hope you realise
This is an open setup.

3 questions for you
To answer now.

[Chateau Lobby]

All of your questions answered in a single post, 129.

Yes, I know.
That's why I am confused.

I thought we cleared it up.

I never called you
scum for being a noob
to forum mafia.

So where did I
push on any mistake?

Am I advocating for your lynch
or something?

This is why
I am confused.

[Chateau Lobby]

First of all, "we" never cleared anything up because you didn't confront me about the main idea of my post. You just picked the details out of it that you could've answered to. Second of all, what was that post for then? How would you interpret it, if not as an accusation?

I said

"Ahh, the sweet innocence
of the noob card."

AN Off-hand remark
that apparently
sent you down a rabbit hole
of accusations.

Now please be more
specific for me:

1) What

MISTAKE

did I push?
and
2)What

INFORMATION

do you have on me?

[Chateau Lobby]

My ISO is filled with that information, I won't address any of your questions. I said I'd get back to you, but not today. I still want some reads from Eyes, he didn't post any and I've seen him lurking.

I read your ISO.

You said you have
1)

ACTUAL INFORMATION

on me but I don't see it in your
ISO.

2) I see no

MISTAKE

that I pushed from you.

So please explain it
to me

AGAIN

like I am
non-native english speaker.

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texcat had time to claim
and should have.

VOTE: texcat

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Pretty sure you haven't commented at all on the slot.

I don't believe I have.

The wagon
built over night
and it all looked
sound to me.

Texcat was posting
and could have claimed.

He didn't.
It's an open setup
He was buying time
for something.

that's why
I hammered.

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Texcat was not at L-1 when around as was stated if you were reading.

Don't really care for your shtick. Care less for your play. Mr. Dr Worm is much better for reference.

Maybe not at L-1
but the pressure for
claiming was clear.

In my experience
when a wagon rises quick
and goes back down
then comes back up again

we usually get a scum flip.

[Chateau Lobby]

Are you implying
That Elsa is responsible
For Persivul's death
Based on the post you quoted?

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In the meantime, FoS : Dr Worm.

I want to take your reads
seriously
But it seems you are just throwing shade
At everyone.

And besides I'm still waiting
On that "actual information"
You have on me
That you promised
To share today.

[Chateau Lobby]

As to the missing
3rd kill,
I'm guessing either someone holstered
Or the roleblocker
Chose correctly.

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I’ve heard Elsa is hard to read, given the fact that she’s not helping town, she’s most likely anti-town. Simple as that. No need to make it hard. I stated my case on her as well. I’m 80% sure about my read if that helps you make a decision on a vote. I do have doubts about her, but the facts point against her being town. By the way, I believe one of Persi/ Bitter must’ve been pr, can’t figure out what specific role, I just have a gut feeling.I think Bitter was something.

This strikes me as strange...

Have you ever played with Elsa before?

Because, where could you have
"heard Elsa is hard to read"?

Maybe you heard this in
your scum thread???

VOTE: scum reading

[Chateau Lobby]

How to bring more suspicion towards you 101. Misdirection and weak pursuit. I gave an opinion and both of you try to insinuate it is scummy, when it really isn’t. Both of you are anti-town and you haven’t done anything all game except for accusing me for weak reasoning. Town doesn’t have someone to lead them so someone has to be vocal in order to get information. Both you and Elsa haven’t said anything except for your chit chats in the beginning. Of course you’re trying to cling desperately as I scum read both of you and grasp at anything you can accuse me for. Your attempt at starting a wagon on me just raised my read on Elsa to a 95%. You not being on Elsa’s wagon is justifiable, since you don’t want to bus your partner. How more creative can you get with these accusations? I bring solid evidence to support my case on Elsa. Mafia thrive on possibility, town on probability. I don’t have to fabricate scenarios in my head and interpret an opinion to then use it to as a weak attempt at starting a wagon.

So you scum read me again?
Because you have been flip-flopping
and throwing scum reads all over the place.

I actually do find some merit
in your Elsa push but since
you change your reads
every 5 minutes
it makes me want to
disregard your reads.

[Chateau Lobby]

In the eventuality Elsa gets hammered while I’m sleeping(which I am totally fine with) and she flips scum, if vig is still alive they should shoot Chateau for trying to divert attention. He also said that he believes my case against elsa is good, but he is not pushing with me, he is pushing against me. Reason being he wanted to look town by saying “your case actually deserves merit points” , to only then vote me because I “keep switching my reads”. Just because I switch my reads doesn’t change my case against Elsa in any way, and he knows that, but he can’t bus his team mate, so he just has to cling onto a stupid excuse as a reason not to vote Elsa. Another potential target would be dr worm, but I’ll wait to see who he votes for. I’d go for the first option though, a lot safer compared to dr worm who I don’t have a lot of information on.

This is another post of from you
that makes it hard for me to trust
your reads.

At the beginning of this day
you said something like
The Vig shouldn't shoot
unless they have good information
etc. etc. etc.

Now you are calling for the vig to shoot me?
Only, because I disagree with you?

I honestly have a hard time following
your logic. That's why I'm voting you.

I do think your Elsa case
has some merit
but I don't think Elsa to be scum.

Elsa could be considered as
Mafiascum's Open-Wolfing-Aficionado
and this just doesn't feel like Elsa's
scum play to me.

[Chateau Lobby]

What's the case on TGP?
I could be convinced but
I read over his ISO and it
seems pretty null to me.

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Frankly Cheatau the current case from me is partially gut, partially remembering his previous interactions with me. Eyes can probably go into more detail, but I feel this is the best one ATM. Will probably try and do a big analysis later in the day if asked though.

All in all though, Paradox seems to not be townread by anyone, and that scares me more then whatever the heck Worm is doing, and will actually give us information on people who were distancing from him. Or he's an SK playing middle of the pack. Either or.

Fair enough for me.
I will trust you on this one
for now.

My vote on SR is more
on the ironic/omgus side anyway
and I do kind of
town read him.
I just don't think his current
scum hunting method
is not good for town.

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

[Chateau Lobby]

Yes, sorry.
I meant to say:

I just don't think his current
scum hunting method
is good for town.

[Chateau Lobby]

lol.

Scum reading,
answer honestly...
Did you know your vote was
the hammer
or were you not
paying attention?

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Disclaimer, this is probably
not what happened.
But it would be funny.

Elsa and SR are both some type of
killing role.
With the drama they had yesterday,
maybe they shot each other?

Or maybe 2 NKs
targeted on the same player
both nights and
that's why we only have 2 NKs.

[Chateau Lobby]

Sorry for being MIA.
Something came up.
All good now.

VOTE: Vedith

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Why does your spam posting
feel like you are just
pretending to be surprised at
our current situation?

Maybe scum/sk didn't kill
you because you are scum/sk?

Also, how do you know
there is only a SK left?

Nice try.

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Here is my problem with the guilty
on me?

That would mean I am SK, correct?

That would mean I have the 1-shot
protection from investigation, right?

That would mean eyes would have had to
check me twice to get a guilty.

Eyes is faking here.
Tast scum alive
going for the hail mary.

VOTE: Eyes without a face

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Oh sorry.
I remembered the SK Role
Incorrectly.
I don't know if scum #2
Is also dead.

I assume not.

And what about our Roleblocker?
Who did they target last night?
I think that explains why there
Was not 2 kills.

I think they should out there target
Because that's most likely scum #2 or SK.

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I forgot
UNVOTE:

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Wait a minute.
After reading the SK Role
I see this is how it plays out...

Eyes is SK here.
He NKd RBer and/or other Scum.
So if he doesn't get lynched
He basically wins.

He pushes a fake guilty
On me but votes Worm.

He doesn't care who gets lynched
So long as it isn't himself.

VOTE: eyes

[Chateau Lobby]

Rules say
No lynch not
An option.

Funny how you
Rush to point out my
Mistake with the SK Role PM
But didn't read any other rules.

I think you knew the SK Role pm
So accurately
Because you have it in your inbox.

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Thank you Chibi for modding!
I had fun.

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There is one more option that the Mafia or Vigilante had shot the SK last night, Chateau. The SK is one-shot Bulletproof AND one-shot roleblock proof.

This post is why I
Shot Elsa.

I thought he was on to me.

That comma freaked me out
A little.