Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.
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VLA was only until tomorrow so I just cleared it.In post 22, Dr Worm wrote:BIGHTEYFISH if YOU are VLA go read rule 11 and I CALL DIBS!!
Sorry Wormy, but if I go VLA again you get my proxy.-
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I don't think the proxy is mandatory but is an option if you wish to use it during VLA.In post 24, Vedith wrote:I don't get it? Why can't you just vote then go V/LA?-
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I think so.In post 35, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BrightEyedFish is Dr Worm good town to you?-
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That's all you got about ceejay? Why bad feelings?In post 76, RuiRui wrote:VOTE: ceejayvinoya
Are you a townie? You seem reasonable enough and yet I'm getting bad feelings about you-
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Everyone has pretty much been "friendly/agreeable" so far. It looks like you trying to hard...In post 82, RuiRui wrote:friendly/agreeable
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uh... she is trying to build a case on you, did you not read?In post 86, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Uh what did she try exactly?In post 84, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Everyone has pretty much been "friendly/agreeable" so far. It looks like you trying to hard...In post 82, RuiRui wrote:friendly/agreeable
VOTE: RuiRui
YOOHOO, I think we got one of the scum teams. ceejayvinoya/RuiRui anyone?-
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If you were beginning to like me then why have you had your vote parked on me since your 1st post?In post 92, ceejayvinoya wrote:
And I was just beginning to like you. Sigh.
What I understood here is that she explained that my friendliness/agreeableness was fake and that's why she has a bad feeling over my posts.
That's hardly a case.
Pedit. Shhh I'm trying
This defense from you just adds to my thoughts on the you/rui team idea.-
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Ok. That's great and all but what are you doing to "find town" or to get the game moving along besides telling me constantly that my strategy is wrong?In post 163, RuiRui wrote:Saying you're voting for pressure defeats the point, it doesn't add pressure, it just makes it look like you're posturing
If you want to get the game moving, this doesn't seem to be the way to do so. I like the idea of finding the town and lynching outside of that, though ultimately we'll still need a lead to know where to start lynching
What do you mean, like how would we find the first scum? There's no special strategy in this setup... just scumhunt like a regular game until the first scum flipsIn post 128, rosterfoster wrote:
Yeah you're town. So tell me what you think about finding one scum?In post 122, RuiRui wrote:I don't think hunting for a team of 2 is a good strategy, it makes too many assumptions, I think it's more effective to work on finding 1 scum and then work on finding their partner next to slow down the kills per night, and then switch to the next faction-
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Why is my vote a bad vote?In post 172, rosterfoster wrote:
Worsevote.In post 162, BrightEyedFish wrote:I am going to vote roster not because of a solid scumread but because this game needs to get going so maybe we build a little pressure and gain some momentum.
VOTE: rosterfoster
Now, watch this post be my doom.
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So you think an OMGUS vote is a better way to inject something into the game.?In post 178, rosterfoster wrote:‘I do not think this is scum but I am going to vote for it anyway’
True?
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It sure seems like you are voting me because I voted you.In post 180, rosterfoster wrote:This isn’t an OMGUS vote.
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It was a pressure vote and a vote to get things moving along. And it seemed to get things moving along.In post 242, ceejayvinoya wrote:roster's vote on BEF is more valid than BEF's vote on roster, seeing that BEF's vote was just a "pressure" vote and roster's vote is him calling out BEF for voting without good reason.
I knew that it would make me an easy target and I expected a wagon to form, a sort of scum bait if you will...
That being said I guess I would rather sacrifice myself in the name of progress the game than being tortured trying to be active in a stagnant game.-
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Of course I want to avoid my lynch. What were you thinking?In post 288, pinturicchio wrote:Both are lazy wagons, but both could flip scum. BEF, wanna work together or are you kinda defeated and/or not invested enough to avoid your lynch?-
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I wasn't trying to play 4D Chess or anything but after I made post 162, I thought this would be a good post for scum to get a wagon going. A vote on me after that post would not bring too much attention since the post was moderately scummy scum could feel safe jumping in early. That's why I think there is at least 1 scum in the first few votes on my wagon, ofr, roster and ceejay.
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Why are using scum's post to justify voting me?In post 319, Vedith wrote:
Ofrhz would have been Scum hunting so BEF and Maad I don't see as Scum buddy at all.In post 312, ofrhz wrote:I'm going to take the silence as a no
I think people most likely to be scum with Allo are in {Springtrap, BEF, maad}
I do think scum are unlikely to bus in this setup, but BEF didn't really have any choice given that he was run up himself.
VOTE: BrightEyedFisy
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In post 114, ofrhz wrote:ceejay feels townIn post 115, ofrhz wrote:
I don't like thisIn post 110, BrightEyedFish wrote:
If you were beginning to like me then why have you had your vote parked on me since your 1st post?In post 92, ceejayvinoya wrote:
And I was just beginning to like you. Sigh.
What I understood here is that she explained that my friendliness/agreeableness was fake and that's why she has a bad feeling over my posts.
That's hardly a case.
Pedit. Shhh I'm trying
This defense from you just adds to my thoughts on the you/rui team idea.
VOTE: BEFYou were basically voting me for the entire D1, so why aren't you voting me now? Perhaps your partner is dead and you have no one to follow anymore like you were clearly doing on D1.
I think there could be a case built on ceejay being ofhrz's partner.
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These are grandwazoo's last 2 posts. He switched from me to eyes when eyes hasn't even posted D2 because eyes is "totes scummier".In post 361, GrandWazoo wrote:I don't see anything from maad, town or scum. Literally 3 posts. I hate lurkers as much as anyone but I see no point in pushing one rn.
I hate that there are two players with Eyes in their name. Confusing. Face is totes scummier. Pintu's 266 echoes my feelings.
VOTE: EyesWithoutaFace
I don't know if this is scum behavior or just someone not giving 2 shits about the game. Either way, I don;t think it's good for town.
WRT maad, I don't like the lack of posting but he is on VLA until the 27th so I think we should at least give him until then a chance to contribute something.
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I didn't mention your explanation because its cheap and meaningless. Exactly something scum would use to justify a vote.In post 376, GrandWazoo wrote:
I literally explained this before I voted.In post 364, BrightEyedFish wrote:
These are grandwazoo's last 2 posts. He switched from me to eyes when eyes hasn't even posted D2 because eyes is "totes scummier".In post 361, GrandWazoo wrote:I don't see anything from maad, town or scum. Literally 3 posts. I hate lurkers as much as anyone but I see no point in pushing one rn.
I hate that there are two players with Eyes in their name. Confusing. Face is totes scummier. Pintu's 266 echoes my feelings.
VOTE: EyesWithoutaFace
I don't know if this is scum behavior or just someone not giving 2 shits about the game. Either way, I don;t think it's good for town.
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Do you think Vedith is scum?In post 403, GrandWazoo wrote:
All I remember is you pushing the Allowagon from P1 right into a mislynch. \O/In post 395, Vedith wrote:What makes sense on their posts?
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I'm not "fake-trying" I am just trying to get some reads. This game is progressing fairly slow and the best way to get reads is pressuring and VCA's at this point.In post 409, rosterfoster wrote:G This contrasts with BEF who I feel to be fake-trying.-
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In post 313, brassherald wrote:Brassherald thought about how, despite only having one sibling, he is still somehow the middle child.
Do you expect scum to be on the Allo wagon? I think we should lynch within that wagon.
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I'm already on that wagon...In post 449, ceejayvinoya wrote:There are 7 people on that wagon. Of course scum might be there.
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You're wrong about me.In post 482, Vedith wrote:Any input to what's been said?
I am still happy with the GW votes right now. But I also SR rui and roster.-
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Maybe a little OMGUS thrown in there but my SR on roster is more of a vibe/gut read.
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Looks like someone doesn't want their partner (GW) to get lynched.
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In post 500, RuiRui wrote:I've changed my mind on BrightEyedFish, he seems to be playing sides here in an opportunistic way..
VOTE: BrightEyedFish
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You were on ceejay according to the VC on the post directly before you voted me.In post 502, rosterfoster wrote:I was already voting you.-
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You were on ceejay according to the VC on the post directly before you voted me.In post 502, rosterfoster wrote:I was already voting you.-
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What is the argument against me? If its that I'm just being scummy then can you explain how I'm being scummy.In post 507, rosterfoster wrote:And way to tackle the unimportant question to try to deflect the argument.-
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In post 384, Vedith wrote:Actually, at this stage it makes sense to remove a night kill since I'm confident in the town section.
If I'm wrong on a town, it's worm, but I don't think so.
VOTE: CeejI agree with pintu on basically everything.
Yeah, this looks bad for ceejay.
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In post 313, brassherald wrote:Brassherald thought about how, despite only having one sibling, he is still somehow the middle child.
So flipless now.... Great....
The only people still alive on both wagons are:
Me, pintu, insomnia, and roster
I think roster has the best potential to flip red from that list:
VOTE: Roster
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Worm lead GW wagon, he just jumped off after it picked up steam.In post 541, insomnia wrote:I’m at school, I’ve been skimming and I do think ceejay / dr worm is red
I’m suspecting ice maf is more of a lurker and not contributing with anything
Pintu still town, I still am suspicious of BEF flipping red because of him leading the wagon and Vedith jumped on it
I’d argue today’s lynch will be between ceejay / BEF , Vedith had BEF as a scum read but he didn’t push him, instead he pushed with him
These are my current thoughts, I’ll get to game solving with pintucheerios so he isn’t lonely
I’ll be really active in like 6 hours
Vedith knew that GW would flip green so he really didn't care how he got lynched.-
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Join me on Roster....In post 550, ceejayvinoya wrote:Roster
wait, am I really the only player voting so far today???-
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Yeah I would look for connections or course, but this connection is from another planet.In post 579, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?-
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What point? Succinct's VCA is basically identical to mine except he landed on me and I landed on roster. No way anyone lands on me through that connection unless they have some preconceived notion that they WANT to connect.In post 586, rosterfoster wrote:But why? You're not really addressing the point.
Read dead people's ISO, there is good info there. What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.-
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You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?In post 588, rosterfoster wrote:That the two fire kills were scumreading you?
Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...-
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If I am lynched look remember this... I was right on ofr and I am pretty sure I am right about roster...In post 291, BrightEyedFish wrote:I wasn't trying to play 4D Chess or anything but after I made post 162, I thought this would be a good post for scum to get a wagon going. A vote on me after that post would not bring too much attention since the post was moderately scummy scum could feel safe jumping in early. That's why I think there is at least 1 scum in the first few votes on my wagon, ofr, roster and ceejay.
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I am far more certain on Roster than I am on succ.In post 597, insomnia wrote:Oh you think Succint / roster-
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Your are right that fire wouldn't know ofr was ice but you are building your case on me that concludes I am Fire and thst I KNEW ofr was Ice scum....In post 600, Succinct wrote:
Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.In post 579, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?
Ifavorroster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.
This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.In post 587, BrightEyedFish wrote:What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.
And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?
They wouldn't.
Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. IIn post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...dosee evidence of the contrary,
This. I reference,In post 592, rosterfoster wrote:But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?
During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,In post 281, brassherald wrote:Allomancer (4)~Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, Dr Worm, GrandWazoo
BrightEyedFish (4)~ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet
Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.In post 313, brassherald wrote:Allomancer (7)~Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio
BrightEyedFish (4)~ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap
I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.
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In post 261, Vedith wrote:Right now Scum are most likely all among Allo BEF worm springtrap maad and Grand.
As it stands I don't lynch outside if these 5.In post 319, Vedith wrote:
Ofrhz would have been Scum hunting so BEF and Maad I don't see as Scum buddy at all.In post 312, ofrhz wrote:I'm going to take the silence as a no
I think people most likely to be scum with Allo are in {Springtrap, BEF, maad}
I do think scum are unlikely to bus in this setup, but BEF didn't really have any choice given that he was run up himself.
VOTE: BrightEyedFisy
Pintu, Eyes and Rooster still town for me.In post 352, Vedith wrote:Do you think Maad flips Scum more often than BEF?
If so I'll vote here if you think so.
If it's from BEF posting who is Orfhz partner, it feels like it's something that could have been discussed between BEF and their buddy already. Not to mention that they are looking for the second ice Scum rather than Scum as a whole.In post 426, Vedith wrote:I think Ruirui might be ice Scum.
Grand, Ceej and BEF as fire? Well, 2 of them.
And here are quotes from Vedith where he is pushing for me to be lynched...In post 466, Vedith wrote:Good, who's scum for you?
Scum is in Grand/BEF/RuiRui and maybe Ceej although I like them better as town now.
RuiRui is highly likely to be Ice mafia so I'd lynch Grand or BEF today. Given that PPintu thinks BEF has some town tell I',m preferable for Grand.
And yes, I think Fire mafia want the ice mafia killed today to prevent them having the night kill.
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Does the fact that there is no flipped scum on the roster wagon tell you anything?In post 612, maadneet wrote:So there are also two different wagons I saw that dissolved before end of day:D1, rosterfoster wagon.
In post 367, brassherald wrote:A cake was brought out for them to eat, the council members were puzzled.
D2, my wagon.
So D1 wagons we have roster, Allo, BEF; D2 was me and Grand, mostly.
My reads seem to line up with insomnia's, BEF as fire scum, ceejay as ice. Will hammer BEF in 24hr unless someone convinces me otherwise.-
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You say that you have no hard evidence that roster is scum so you aren't voting there.In post 600, Succinct wrote:
Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.In post 579, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?
Ifavorroster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.
This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.In post 587, BrightEyedFish wrote:What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.
And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?
They wouldn't.
Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. IIn post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...dosee evidence of the contrary,
This. I reference,In post 592, rosterfoster wrote:But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?
During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,In post 281, brassherald wrote:Allomancer (4)~Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, Dr Worm, GrandWazoo
BrightEyedFish (4)~ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet
Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.In post 313, brassherald wrote:Allomancer (7)~Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio
BrightEyedFish (4)~ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap
I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.
But you also have no HARD evidence on me other that speculation that is truly false.
I think you and roster are the remaining scum.-
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